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Old Aug 1, 2016, 1:42 pm
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Intercontinental and Transcontinental

Watch out for codeshares and some routes have multiple aircraft types operating (with and without first class).


Names used for First Class
First Class - AA, BA, CX, JL, KA, QF, QR
Some airlines (e.g. BA, QF) also simply brand it as First
Business Suites - MH


American Airlines
Aircraft type
All mainline aircraft type, but 10 Hawaii 757 & MD-80 first class are of poor standard.

Only 20 777-300ER and 17 A321T aircraft with 3 class First are listed below.
(All 777-200ER / 772 have been refitted and have no F cabin.)

Routes
Between Chicago O'Hare and
NONE

Between Dallas Fort Worth and
Hong Kong
London Heathrow (2 of 3 flights)

Between Los Angeles and
Hong Kong (1 flight)
London Heathrow (1 flight)

Between Miami and
Buenos Aires (1 flight)
London Heathrow (1 flight)

Between New York JFK and
London Heathrow (1 flight)
Los Angeles (all flights)
San Francisco (all flights)
Sao Paulo


British Airways
Aircraft type
747, 777 (some), 789 and A380.

Routes
Between London Heathrow and
Abu Dhabi
Abuja
Atlanta
Austin
Bahrain
Bangalore
Beijing
Boston
Cairo
Cape Town
Chicago
Dallas
Delhi (some flights)
Denver
Doha
Dubai
Hong Kong
Houston
Johannesburg
Kuala Lumpur
Kuwait
Lagos
Los Angeles
Luanda
Mexico City
Miami
Moscow DME
Mumbai
Muscat
New York JFK
Newark (some flights)
Philadelphia (some flights)
Phoenix
Santiago SCL
San Diego
San Francisco
San Jose SJC
Sao Paulo
Seattle
Shanghai
Singapore
Sydney
Tel Aviv (some flights)
Tokyo HND
Tokyo NRT
Toronto (some flights)
Vancouver
Washington IAD (some flights)

Between London Gatwick and
Bermuda
Bridgetown
Grenada
Port of Spain
St Lucia
San Jose SJO

Between St Lucia and
Grenada
Port of Spain

Between Singapore and
Sydney


Cathay Pacific
Aircraft type
777-300ER (33 frames out of 53)

Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Boston
Chicago
Frankfurt
Jakarta (some flights May to October 2018)
London Heathrow (some flights)
Los Angeles (some flights)
Milan
New York JFK
Paris CDG (some flights)
San Francisco (some flights)
Tokyo HND (some flights)
Vancouver (some flights)
Zurich

Between Vancouver and
New York JFK


Dragonair
Aircraft type
A330 (some flights only)

Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Beijing
Kaohsiung
Shanghai
Taipei


Japan Airlines
Aircraft type
domestic 772 (W15/W16) 14 seats (2-2-2)
domestic 763 (A25) 5 seats (2-1-2)
international 773 (W84) 8 seats (1-2-1)

Routes
Between Tokyo Haneda and
Chitose
Fukuoka
Okinawa
Osaka ITM
London Heathrow
New York JFK
Paris CDG
San Francisco

Between Tokyo Narita and
Chicago
Los Angeles
New York JFK


LATAM
None


Malaysia Airlines
Aircraft type
A380

Routes
Between Kuala Lumpur and
London Heathrow


Qantas
Aircraft type
A380 (but some flights sold without F e.g. occasional SYD-HKG)

Routes
Between Sydney and
Dallas
Hong Kong (some flights)
London Heathrow (via Singapore)
Los Angeles

Between Melbourne and
Los Angeles (QF93/94 only)
Singapore

Between Singapore and
London Heathrow


Qatar
Aircraft type
A330 (only one), A380

Routes
Between Doha and
Bangkok (seasonal, some flights)
London LHR (some flights)
Guangzhou
Melbourne (seasonal - Northern Winter)
Paris CDG (1 flight/day)
Sydney (seasonal - Northern Winter)
some intra-Middle East routes have 2-class F (J seat, J food and J wine sold as F)


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Old May 23, 2012, 9:33 am
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Originally Posted by NA-Flyer
CGK flights have the same situation.: continuous aircraft change
tell me about it. I was downgraded from F to J on my CGK flight because they switched it to offer F only on Saturday. Good that I didn't change my departure date because 3 weeks before departure, the 74A on Sat was downgraded to another aircraft without F
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Old Jun 1, 2012, 11:26 pm
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SYD-EZE is no longer, replaced by SYD-SCL, now on a 3-class 744 (J/W/Y)...no more F.
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Old Jun 2, 2012, 1:45 am
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BA are starting a LHR-ICN route late this year utilising a 777 with F cabin.
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Old Feb 8, 2013, 11:48 am
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Time to update with MH F routes. A380 KUL-LHR. CDG-KUL starting soon.

I believe still SYD-KUL on, but about to end.
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Old Feb 9, 2013, 3:13 pm
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I've updated to post #79 but I expect there are lots of other changes to be made. All help is appreciated.
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Old Feb 9, 2013, 4:43 pm
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Updated for AA, JL, and QF...lots of 3-class routes gone. Likely to see at least one old AA route return in the short term with all the extra 772s in the system (though they will have F removed in the next few years).

American Airlines
Routes
Between Boston and
Miami (seasonal)
Santo Domingo (seasonal some flights)

Between Buenos Aires and
Montevideo


Between Chicago O'Hare and
Beijing
Dallas Fort Worth
London Heathrow
Shanghai
Tokyo Narita

Between Dallas Fort Worth and
Buenos Aires
Chicago O'Hare
Frankfurt (seasonal)
London Heathrow (some flights)
Madrid (seasonal)
Miami (seasonal)
Sao Paulo
Seoul Incheon
Tokyo Narita

Between Los Angeles and
London Heathrow
Shanghai Pudong
Tokyo Narita

Between Miami and
Buenos Aires
Dallas Fort Worth (seasonal)
London Heathrow
Los Angeles (seasonal some flights)
Santiago
Sao Paulo (some flights)

Between New York JFK and
Bermuda
Buenos Aires
London Heathrow
Los Angeles
Miami (some flights)
Rio de Janiero

San Francisco (some flights)
Sao Paulo
Tokyo Narita
Tokyo Haneda

Japan Airlines
Aircraft type
773 (not 777), 744 (some configurations only)

Routes
Between Tokyo Narita and
Bangkok (just 1 of the flights, ends Oct 09)
Chicago
Delhi (ends Oct 09)
Frankfurt
Hong Kong (just 1 of the flights)
Honolulu (just 1 of the flights)

London Heathrow
Los Angeles
New York JFK
Paris CDG
San Francisco
Sao Paulo (via New York JFK)
Singapore (just 1 of the flights, ends Oct 09)

Between New York JFK and
Sao Paulo


Qantas
Aircraft type
All A380 and some 747-400 (not 747-300 at all, and some 747-400 are 2-class).

Routes
Between Sydney and
Bangkok
Dubai (begins 31 MAR)
Hong Kong
Johannesburg (some days 2-class, temporarily sold as 2-class)
London Heathrow (via Bangkok or Singapore)
Los Angeles
New York JFK (via Los Angeles)
San Francisco (temporarily sold as 2-class)

Singapore (ends 30 MAR)

Between Melbourne and
Dubai (begins 31 MAR)
Hong Kong (temporarily sold as 2-class)
London Heathrow (via Hong Kong or Singapore)
Los Angeles (nonstop only)
Singapore (ends 30 MAR)


Between Bangkok and
London Heathrow

Between Hong Kong and
London Heathrow


Between Singapore and
London Heathrow (ends 30 MAR)

Between Dubai and
London Heathrow (begins 31 MAR)

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Old Feb 11, 2013, 7:45 pm
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JFK - GIG (Rio de Janeiro) does not have first class on AA.
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Old Feb 11, 2013, 10:20 pm
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Where is CX?
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Old Feb 12, 2013, 3:21 am
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Originally Posted by correctioncx
Where is CX?
In first post.
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 5:13 am
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
Intercontinental and Transcontinental

Watch out for codeshares and some routes have multiple aircraft types operating (with and without first class).


Names used for First Class
First Class - AA, BA, CX, JL, KA, QF


American Airlines
Aircraft type
All mainline aircraft type, but 757, A300 & MD-80 first class are of poor standard. Note within North & Central America 2-class aircraft are sold as First for USA and Business for Canada, Mexico, Central America and the Caribbean.

Only 3-class flights (777 and 767-200 aircraft) are listed below.

Routes
Between Chicago O'Hare and
Beijing
London Heathrow
Shanghai
Tokyo Narita

Between Dallas Fort Worth and
Buenos Aires
London Heathrow (some flights)
Madrid (seasonal)
Sao Paulo
Seoul Incheon
Tokyo Narita

Between Los Angeles and
London Heathrow
Shanghai Pudong
Tokyo Narita

Between Miami and
Buenos Aires
London Heathrow
Los Angeles (some flights)
Sao Paulo (some flights)

Between New York JFK and
Buenos Aires
London Heathrow
Los Angeles
Rio de Janiero
San Francisco (some flights)
Sao Paulo
Tokyo Haneda


British Airways
Aircraft type
Only 747 and 777.

Routes
Between London Heathrow and
Abu Dhabi
Abuja
Bahrain
Bangalore
Bangkok
Beijing
Boston
Buenos Aires
Cairo
Capetown (some flights)
Chicago
Dallas
Delhi (some flights)
Doha
Dubai
Hong Kong
Houston
Johannesburg
Kuwait
Lagos
Los Angeles
Luanda
Mauritius
Mexico City
Miami
Mumbai
Muscat
New York JFK
Newark (some flights)
Philadelphia (some flights)
Phoenix
San Francisco
Sao Paulo
Seattle
Seoul
Shanghai
Singapore
Sydney
Tel Aviv (some flights)
Tokyo NRT
Toronto (some flights)
Vancouver
Washington IAD (some flights)

Between London Gatwick and
Atlanta (some flights)
Bermuda
Bridgetown
New York JFK (not yet started)
Port of Spain
Tobago

Between Abu Dhabi and
Muscat

Between Bahrain and
Doha

Between Bangkok and
Sydney

Between Bridgetown and
Port of Spain
Tobago

Between Sao Paulo and
Buenos Aires

Between Singapore and
Sydney


Cathay Pacific
Aircraft type
All 747 variants, 777-300ER (but not non-ER), A346, some A343, some A333.

Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Adelaide (halted, may resume northern winter)
Amsterdam
Auckland (some flights, brief period in northern winter only)
Bangkok (some flights)
Dubai (some flights)
Frankfurt (some flights)
Jakarta (some flights)
Johannesburg (some flights)
London Heathrow
Los Angeles
Manila (some flights)
Melbourne (halted, may resume northern winter)
Milan
New York JFK
Osaka KIX (some flights)
Paris CDG
Rome FCO (some flights)
San Francisco
Seoul Incheon (some flights, northern summer only)
Singapore (some flights)
Sydney (halted, may resume northern winter)
Taipei (some flights)
Tokyo HND (some flights)
Tokyo NRT (some flights)
Toronto
Vancouver

Between Adelaide and
Melbourne

Between Bangkok and
Delhi (some flights, irregular)
Singapore

Between Taipei and
Tokyo NRT

Between Vancouver and
New York JFK


Dragonair
Aircraft type
Only A330.

Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Beijing
Kaohsiung
Shanghai
Taipei


Japan Airlines
Aircraft type
773 (not 777)

Routes
Between Tokyo Narita and
Chicago
Frankfurt
London Heathrow
Los Angeles
New York JFK
Paris CDG


LAN
Aircraft type
None.


Malaysia Airlines
Aircraft type
All A380 and ???

Routes
Between Kuala Lumpur and
London Heathrow
Paris CDG


Qantas
Aircraft type
All A380

Routes
Between Sydney and
Dubai (from 31MAR13)
Hong Kong
London Heathrow (via Singapore until 30MAR13 and via Dubai from 31MAR13)
Los Angeles
Singapore (until 30MAR13)

Between Melbourne and
Dubai (from 31MAR13)
London Heathrow (via Singapore until 30MAR13 and via Dubai from 31MAR13)
Los Angeles
Singapore (until 31MAR13)

Between Dubai and
London Heathrow (from 31MAR13)

Between Singapore and
London Heathrow (until 30MAR13)


Current as at ?. Updated to post #81.

Please advise any errors or omissions. Thanks to all those who have contributed.



zzz
CX is outdated:

No F class to app Aust destinations
Add ORD
No more 346
No F class on all airbus aircrafts
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Old Feb 13, 2013, 5:24 pm
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JL still has F on the NRT-CGK route, IIRC.
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 3:16 am
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Originally Posted by armagebedar
JL still has F on the NRT-CGK route, IIRC.

Yes it still does
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 7:51 am
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Yes it does, but not bookable on an AONEX fare...
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 11:19 am
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Old Feb 15, 2013, 2:50 pm
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Add BA...

Gatwick - St Lucia
Gatwick- Grenada

Between St Lucia & Grenada
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