Aug 1, 2016, 1:42 pm
Last edit by: Kiwi Flyer
Intercontinental and Transcontinental
Watch out for codeshares and some routes have multiple aircraft types operating (with and without first class).
Names used for First Class
First Class - AA, BA, CX, JL, KA, QF, QR
Some airlines (e.g. BA, QF) also simply brand it as First
Business Suites - MH
American Airlines
Aircraft type
All mainline aircraft type, but 10 Hawaii 757 & MD-80 first class are of poor standard.
Only 20 777-300ER and 17 A321T aircraft with 3 class First are listed below.
(All 777-200ER / 772 have been refitted and have no F cabin.)
Routes
Between Chicago O'Hare and
NONE
Between Dallas Fort Worth and
Hong Kong
London Heathrow (2 of 3 flights)
Between Los Angeles and
Hong Kong (1 flight)
London Heathrow (1 flight)
Between Miami and
Buenos Aires (1 flight)
London Heathrow (1 flight)
Between New York JFK and
London Heathrow (1 flight)
Los Angeles (all flights)
San Francisco (all flights)
Sao Paulo
British Airways
Aircraft type
747, 777 (some), 789 and A380.
Routes
Between London Heathrow and
Abu Dhabi
Abuja
Atlanta
Austin
Bahrain
Bangalore
Beijing
Boston
Cairo
Cape Town
Chicago
Dallas
Delhi (some flights)
Denver
Doha
Dubai
Hong Kong
Houston
Johannesburg
Kuala Lumpur
Kuwait
Lagos
Los Angeles
Luanda
Mexico City
Miami
Moscow DME
Mumbai
Muscat
New York JFK
Newark (some flights)
Philadelphia (some flights)
Phoenix
Santiago SCL
San Diego
San Francisco
San Jose SJC
Sao Paulo
Seattle
Shanghai
Singapore
Sydney
Tel Aviv (some flights)
Tokyo HND
Tokyo NRT
Toronto (some flights)
Vancouver
Washington IAD (some flights)
Between London Gatwick and
Bermuda
Bridgetown
Grenada
Port of Spain
St Lucia
San Jose SJO
Between St Lucia and
Grenada
Port of Spain
Between Singapore and
Sydney
Cathay Pacific
Aircraft type
777-300ER (33 frames out of 53)
Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Boston
Chicago
Frankfurt
Jakarta (some flights May to October 2018)
London Heathrow (some flights)
Los Angeles (some flights)
Milan
New York JFK
Paris CDG (some flights)
San Francisco (some flights)
Tokyo HND (some flights)
Vancouver (some flights)
Zurich
Between Vancouver and
New York JFK
Dragonair
Aircraft type
A330 (some flights only)
Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Beijing
Kaohsiung
Shanghai
Taipei
Japan Airlines
Aircraft type
domestic 772 (W15/W16) 14 seats (2-2-2)
domestic 763 (A25) 5 seats (2-1-2)
international 773 (W84) 8 seats (1-2-1)
Routes
Between Tokyo Haneda and
Chitose
Fukuoka
Okinawa
Osaka ITM
London Heathrow
New York JFK
Paris CDG
San Francisco
Between Tokyo Narita and
Chicago
Los Angeles
New York JFK
LATAM
None
Malaysia Airlines
Aircraft type
A380
Routes
Between Kuala Lumpur and
London Heathrow
Qantas
Aircraft type
A380 (but some flights sold without F e.g. occasional SYD-HKG)
Routes
Between Sydney and
Dallas
Hong Kong (some flights)
London Heathrow (via Singapore)
Los Angeles
Between Melbourne and
Los Angeles (QF93/94 only)
Singapore
Between Singapore and
London Heathrow
Qatar
Aircraft type
A330 (only one), A380
Routes
Between Doha and
Bangkok (seasonal, some flights)
London LHR (some flights)
Guangzhou
Melbourne (seasonal - Northern Winter)
Paris CDG (1 flight/day)
Sydney (seasonal - Northern Winter)
some intra-Middle East routes have 2-class F (J seat, J food and J wine sold as F)
Last updated: 14APR2018
Updated to post: 235
Updated AA flights 24APR2018
Watch out for codeshares and some routes have multiple aircraft types operating (with and without first class).
Names used for First Class
First Class - AA, BA, CX, JL, KA, QF, QR
Some airlines (e.g. BA, QF) also simply brand it as First
Business Suites - MH
American Airlines
Aircraft type
All mainline aircraft type, but 10 Hawaii 757 & MD-80 first class are of poor standard.
Only 20 777-300ER and 17 A321T aircraft with 3 class First are listed below.
(All 777-200ER / 772 have been refitted and have no F cabin.)
Routes
Between Chicago O'Hare and
NONE
Between Dallas Fort Worth and
Hong Kong
London Heathrow (2 of 3 flights)
Between Los Angeles and
Hong Kong (1 flight)
London Heathrow (1 flight)
Between Miami and
Buenos Aires (1 flight)
London Heathrow (1 flight)
Between New York JFK and
London Heathrow (1 flight)
Los Angeles (all flights)
San Francisco (all flights)
Sao Paulo
British Airways
Aircraft type
747, 777 (some), 789 and A380.
Routes
Between London Heathrow and
Abu Dhabi
Abuja
Atlanta
Austin
Bahrain
Bangalore
Beijing
Boston
Cairo
Cape Town
Chicago
Dallas
Delhi (some flights)
Denver
Doha
Dubai
Hong Kong
Houston
Johannesburg
Kuala Lumpur
Kuwait
Lagos
Los Angeles
Luanda
Mexico City
Miami
Moscow DME
Mumbai
Muscat
New York JFK
Newark (some flights)
Philadelphia (some flights)
Phoenix
Santiago SCL
San Diego
San Francisco
San Jose SJC
Sao Paulo
Seattle
Shanghai
Singapore
Sydney
Tel Aviv (some flights)
Tokyo HND
Tokyo NRT
Toronto (some flights)
Vancouver
Washington IAD (some flights)
Between London Gatwick and
Bermuda
Bridgetown
Grenada
Port of Spain
St Lucia
San Jose SJO
Between St Lucia and
Grenada
Port of Spain
Between Singapore and
Sydney
Cathay Pacific
Aircraft type
777-300ER (33 frames out of 53)
Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Boston
Chicago
Frankfurt
Jakarta (some flights May to October 2018)
London Heathrow (some flights)
Los Angeles (some flights)
Milan
New York JFK
Paris CDG (some flights)
San Francisco (some flights)
Tokyo HND (some flights)
Vancouver (some flights)
Zurich
Between Vancouver and
New York JFK
Dragonair
Aircraft type
A330 (some flights only)
Routes
Between Hong Kong and
Beijing
Kaohsiung
Shanghai
Taipei
Japan Airlines
Aircraft type
domestic 772 (W15/W16) 14 seats (2-2-2)
domestic 763 (A25) 5 seats (2-1-2)
international 773 (W84) 8 seats (1-2-1)
Routes
Between Tokyo Haneda and
Chitose
Fukuoka
Okinawa
Osaka ITM
London Heathrow
New York JFK
Paris CDG
San Francisco
Between Tokyo Narita and
Chicago
Los Angeles
New York JFK
LATAM
None
Malaysia Airlines
Aircraft type
A380
Routes
Between Kuala Lumpur and
London Heathrow
Qantas
Aircraft type
A380 (but some flights sold without F e.g. occasional SYD-HKG)
Routes
Between Sydney and
Dallas
Hong Kong (some flights)
London Heathrow (via Singapore)
Los Angeles
Between Melbourne and
Los Angeles (QF93/94 only)
Singapore
Between Singapore and
London Heathrow
Qatar
Aircraft type
A330 (only one), A380
Routes
Between Doha and
Bangkok (seasonal, some flights)
London LHR (some flights)
Guangzhou
Melbourne (seasonal - Northern Winter)
Paris CDG (1 flight/day)
Sydney (seasonal - Northern Winter)
some intra-Middle East routes have 2-class F (J seat, J food and J wine sold as F)
Last updated: 14APR2018
Updated to post: 235
Updated AA flights 24APR2018
OW first class routes thread
May 24, 2010, 1:26 pm
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May 24, 2010, 2:38 pm
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I thought so too but looking at EF there are no F seats during December or January - didn't look before or after.
The seat maps show J beginning at row 11 on the 343s, so I suspect CX will be either allowing CX elites to sit up there (as they did when I was last on it) or else will close F entirely. Pity.
The seat maps show J beginning at row 11 on the 343s, so I suspect CX will be either allowing CX elites to sit up there (as they did when I was last on it) or else will close F entirely. Pity.
May 24, 2010, 11:04 pm
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I thought so too but looking at EF there are no F seats during December or January - didn't look before or after.
The seat maps show J beginning at row 11 on the 343s, so I suspect CX will be either allowing CX elites to sit up there (as they did when I was last on it) or else will close F entirely. Pity.
The seat maps show J beginning at row 11 on the 343s, so I suspect CX will be either allowing CX elites to sit up there (as they did when I was last on it) or else will close F entirely. Pity.
cathaypacific.com online booking/schedule tools show 34B for this route.
The online booking tool shows no firstclass equiped for HKG-AKL in December and January.
Sep 10, 2010, 9:47 am
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BA
I've attempted to update the list of BA routes with F class in this thread, specifically here. Any corrections very welcome.
Sep 10, 2010, 10:32 am
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Looks as though CX is cancelling F service to ICN (Seoul) for the winter.
Last flight with F seems to be Nov 23; resumes with one flight per week in mid-March.
That's the fourth segment of my AONE5 that CX has downgraded from F to J with no compensation.
Happy Travels.
Last flight with F seems to be Nov 23; resumes with one flight per week in mid-March.
That's the fourth segment of my AONE5 that CX has downgraded from F to J with no compensation.
Happy Travels.
Sep 10, 2010, 1:25 pm
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ETA: Correction: I see it's on this forum!
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Sep 10, 2010, 3:42 pm
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Apr 16, 2011, 3:46 pm
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CX751 BKK-DEL is now sold as 3-class daily 5/16-10/29.
The aircraft generally (always?) has F seats but has been sold as 2-class in the recent past with the F section closed or offered to elites/full-fare J pax with business service. This is a recent change as when I booked a July ticket back in February F was unavailable but I was able to change the ticket today.
The aircraft generally (always?) has F seats but has been sold as 2-class in the recent past with the F section closed or offered to elites/full-fare J pax with business service. This is a recent change as when I booked a July ticket back in February F was unavailable but I was able to change the ticket today.
May 21, 2012, 9:46 pm
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CX751 BKK-DEL is now sold as 3-class daily 5/16-10/29.
The aircraft generally (always?) has F seats but has been sold as 2-class in the recent past with the F section closed or offered to elites/full-fare J pax with business service. This is a recent change as when I booked a July ticket back in February F was unavailable but I was able to change the ticket today.
The aircraft generally (always?) has F seats but has been sold as 2-class in the recent past with the F section closed or offered to elites/full-fare J pax with business service. This is a recent change as when I booked a July ticket back in February F was unavailable but I was able to change the ticket today.
May 22, 2012, 2:19 pm
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Good point. FWIW my post was from last year when it was scheduled as a 744. It was a 744 when I flew it, though I have also flown CX751 HKG-BKK in the winter schedule when it was scheduled as a longhaul 333 and had it swapped for the shorthaul config. That's par for the course on CX intra-Asia. My anecdotal experience is the 744 flights are less likely to have aircraft swaps than the 77W flights, which become 772/773s quite frequently.
May 22, 2012, 5:13 pm
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