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Updated for AA, JL, and QF...lots of 3-class routes gone. Likely to see at least one old AA route return in the short term with all the extra 772s in the system (though they will have F removed in the next few years).
American Airlines Routes Miami (seasonal) Santo Domingo (seasonal some flights) Between Buenos Aires and Montevideo Between Chicago O'Hare and Beijing London Heathrow Shanghai Tokyo Narita Between Dallas Fort Worth and Buenos Aires Frankfurt (seasonal) London Heathrow (some flights) Madrid (seasonal) Sao Paulo Seoul Incheon Tokyo Narita Between Los Angeles and London Heathrow Shanghai Pudong Tokyo Narita Between Miami and Buenos Aires London Heathrow Los Angeles ( Sao Paulo (some flights) Between New York JFK and Buenos Aires London Heathrow Los Angeles Rio de Janiero San Francisco (some flights) Sao Paulo Tokyo Haneda Japan Airlines Aircraft type 773 (not 777), Routes Between Tokyo Narita and Chicago Frankfurt Honolulu (just 1 of the flights) London Heathrow Los Angeles New York JFK Paris CDG Sao Paulo (via New York JFK) Singapore (just 1 of the flights, ends Oct 09) Between New York JFK and Sao Paulo Qantas Aircraft type All A380 Routes Between Sydney and Dubai (begins 31 MAR) Hong Kong London Heathrow (via Los Angeles San Francisco (temporarily sold as 2-class) Singapore (ends 30 MAR) Between Melbourne and Dubai (begins 31 MAR) London Heathrow (via Los Angeles Singapore (ends 30 MAR) London Heathrow Between Hong Kong and London Heathrow Between Singapore and London Heathrow (ends 30 MAR) Between Dubai and London Heathrow (begins 31 MAR) |
JFK - GIG (Rio de Janeiro) does not have first class on AA.
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Where is CX?
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Originally Posted by correctioncx
(Post 20230028)
Where is CX?
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
(Post 9573818)
Intercontinental and Transcontinental
Watch out for codeshares and some routes have multiple aircraft types operating (with and without first class). Names used for First Class First Class - AA, BA, CX, JL, KA, QF American Airlines Aircraft type All mainline aircraft type, but 757, A300 & MD-80 first class are of poor standard. Note within North & Central America 2-class aircraft are sold as First for USA and Business for Canada, Mexico, Central America and the Caribbean. Only 3-class flights (777 and 767-200 aircraft) are listed below. Routes Between Chicago O'Hare and Beijing London Heathrow Shanghai Tokyo Narita Between Dallas Fort Worth and Buenos Aires London Heathrow (some flights) Madrid (seasonal) Sao Paulo Seoul Incheon Tokyo Narita Between Los Angeles and London Heathrow Shanghai Pudong Tokyo Narita Between Miami and Buenos Aires London Heathrow Los Angeles (some flights) Sao Paulo (some flights) Between New York JFK and Buenos Aires London Heathrow Los Angeles Rio de Janiero San Francisco (some flights) Sao Paulo Tokyo Haneda British Airways Aircraft type Only 747 and 777. Routes Between London Heathrow and Abu Dhabi Abuja Bahrain Bangalore Bangkok Beijing Boston Buenos Aires Cairo Capetown (some flights) Chicago Dallas Delhi (some flights) Doha Dubai Hong Kong Houston Johannesburg Kuwait Lagos Los Angeles Luanda Mauritius Mexico City Miami Mumbai Muscat New York JFK Newark (some flights) Philadelphia (some flights) Phoenix San Francisco Sao Paulo Seattle Seoul Shanghai Singapore Sydney Tel Aviv (some flights) Tokyo NRT Toronto (some flights) Vancouver Washington IAD (some flights) Between London Gatwick and Atlanta (some flights) Bermuda Bridgetown New York JFK (not yet started) Port of Spain Tobago Between Abu Dhabi and Muscat Between Bahrain and Doha Between Bangkok and Sydney Between Bridgetown and Port of Spain Tobago Between Sao Paulo and Buenos Aires Between Singapore and Sydney Cathay Pacific Aircraft type All 747 variants, 777-300ER (but not non-ER), A346, some A343, some A333. Routes Between Hong Kong and Adelaide (halted, may resume northern winter) Amsterdam Auckland (some flights, brief period in northern winter only) Bangkok (some flights) Dubai (some flights) Frankfurt (some flights) Jakarta (some flights) Johannesburg (some flights) London Heathrow Los Angeles Manila (some flights) Melbourne (halted, may resume northern winter) Milan New York JFK Osaka KIX (some flights) Paris CDG Rome FCO (some flights) San Francisco Seoul Incheon (some flights, northern summer only) Singapore (some flights) Sydney (halted, may resume northern winter) Taipei (some flights) Tokyo HND (some flights) Tokyo NRT (some flights) Toronto Vancouver Between Adelaide and Melbourne Between Bangkok and Delhi (some flights, irregular) Singapore Between Taipei and Tokyo NRT Between Vancouver and New York JFK Dragonair Aircraft type Only A330. Routes Between Hong Kong and Beijing Kaohsiung Shanghai Taipei Japan Airlines Aircraft type 773 (not 777) Routes Between Tokyo Narita and Chicago Frankfurt London Heathrow Los Angeles New York JFK Paris CDG LAN Aircraft type None. Malaysia Airlines Aircraft type All A380 and ??? Routes Between Kuala Lumpur and London Heathrow Paris CDG Qantas Aircraft type All A380 Routes Between Sydney and Dubai (from 31MAR13) Hong Kong London Heathrow (via Singapore until 30MAR13 and via Dubai from 31MAR13) Los Angeles Singapore (until 30MAR13) Between Melbourne and Dubai (from 31MAR13) London Heathrow (via Singapore until 30MAR13 and via Dubai from 31MAR13) Los Angeles Singapore (until 31MAR13) Between Dubai and London Heathrow (from 31MAR13) Between Singapore and London Heathrow (until 30MAR13) Current as at ?. Updated to post #81. Please advise any errors or omissions. Thanks to all those who have contributed. zzz No F class to app Aust destinations Add ORD No more 346 No F class on all airbus aircrafts |
JL still has F on the NRT-CGK route, IIRC.
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Originally Posted by armagebedar
(Post 20242361)
JL still has F on the NRT-CGK route, IIRC.
Yes it still does |
Yes it does, but not bookable on an AONEX fare...
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Also remove BKK-SYD on BA
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Add BA...
Gatwick - St Lucia Gatwick- Grenada Between St Lucia & Grenada |
MH
A380 F will also fly between KUL and HKG from 1st May 2013. |
Originally Posted by Guy Betsy
(Post 20256146)
MH
A380 F will also fly between KUL and HKG from 1st May 2013. |
Originally Posted by correctioncx
(Post 20258316)
Will they actually sell F?
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Originally Posted by Guy Betsy
(Post 20258950)
Yes. Why not? Flagship A380 flight!
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Originally Posted by correctioncx
(Post 20269669)
Is it codeshard with CX as CX doesn't operate F to KUL normally?
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YEAH but CX flies on that route
also I think CX is more of a competitor and will not codeshare with MH whenever A380 flights launched to HK CX has increased frequency to offer cheaper seats ex sin-form 7 to 10 daily ex ICN from 5-6 daily KL-3-4 DAILY yeah so no regional first codeshare there is one for business and economy though although CX flies its 777 daily to KL with better business seats than MH A380 and arguably a better First Seat |
Not sure if it's been said before but at least on some days FRA-DFW-FRA on AA has First Class.
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Originally Posted by Kachjc
(Post 20274256)
although CX flies its 777 daily to KL with better business seats than MH A380 and arguably a better First Seat
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Oneworld First Class
How about Air Berlin, Finnair, El Al code share with AA, and all code shares with Oneworld airlines?
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Originally Posted by longhorns
(Post 21022127)
How about Air Berlin, Finnair, El Al code share with AA, and all code shares with Oneworld airlines?
Gardyloo Oneworld moderator |
Im booked on BA F next week DME-LHR.
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Booking a OW RTW award (35K for 280K in F) from BOS. We want to get the best F experience we can. Should we go BOS-JFK-HKG in CX over water? What other F routes would be good? Did I mention we're also open to our destinations...? I also noticed that MH will fly the A380 in between KUL and HKG from 1st May 2013. We're going in mid-late May.
Advice, suggestions? |
Originally Posted by tennisboy
(Post 21297397)
Booking a OW RTW award (35K for 280K in F) from BOS. We want to get the best F experience we can. Should we go BOS-JFK-HKG in CX over water? What other F routes would be good? Did I mention we're also open to our destinations...? I also noticed that MH will fly the A380 in between KUL and HKG from 1st May 2013. We're going in mid-late May.
Advice, suggestions? |
Really? I'm thinking something like this:
BOS-JFK-HKG-NRT-PEK-BKK-HKT-CMB-SIN-SYD-AKL-SCL-EZE-SCL-GIG-JFK-BOS or similar, for example leaving out South America and adding more Asian routes like Bora Bora, Bali, Hat Yai, etc... |
We want to leave from Boston, take the best F class to Asia, and visit HKG, NRT, PVG, PEK, PHT, SIN, CMB, KUL, PEN, and open to SGN or other key food, tourist, and relaxation spots.
Bonus if we could visit Bali, Papua New Guinea, Bora Bora, or anywhere else in the South Pacific. Sri Lanka and Male would be fun too. We need to use the RTW OW award, under 35K miles shown, in F. |
Originally Posted by tennisboy
(Post 21298072)
We want to [...] visit HKG, NRT, PVG, PEK, PHT, SIN, CMB, KUL, PEN, and open to SGN or [...] Bali, Papua New Guinea, Bora Bora, or anywhere else in the South Pacific. Sri Lanka and Male would be fun too.
Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
(Post 21297913)
two roundtrips for what you're paying for one, and still in F
Your question and its responses will be moved soon, I hope, as this thread actually has a different purpose: a reference thread listing routes on which OW carriers operate F service. |
I will consider that. That said, what are the best intra-Asian One World flights in F? I think that seems consistent with this thread...
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Looking around for F flights on OW, can't seem to find anything between PEK and NRT.
Can folks help me find the best F flights if I want to go to these cities? BOS-HKG-NRT-PEK-PNH-HTY-BOS I want to keep BOS-HKG bc I can take CX via JFK. But the rest I'm not so picky about. Suggestions? |
[QUOTE=tennisboy;21461804]Looking around for F flights on OW, can't seem to find anything between PEK and NRT.
JAL is the only oneworld carrier flying direct PEK-NRT or PEK-HND and neither city offers first class configurations. To get first class between these two cities using oneworld in Asia you could try PEK-HKG on Dragonair (A333 has First seats) and then use Cathay HKG-NRT or HKG-HND on a few of the flights that do offer First (77W and certain 744). |
But if HKG is my first stop, and then I want to go to PEK and Tokyo, how could I do it in F? Can I go HKG-PEK on Dragon and then PEK-NRT or HND in F on JAL? I did notice one flight a day is on the 787, albeit in business.
The other option is to go BOS-NRT on JAL on the 787, but I hear that is an inferior F product to CX's BOS-JFK-HKG product. Thoughts on that too?? Thanks |
yeah one can safely say in Oneworld CX has the best F product, with QF maybe second
787's do not have first class |
Originally Posted by Kachjc
(Post 21464521)
yeah one can safely say in Oneworld CX has the best F product, with QF maybe second
787's do not have first class |
Ouch, OK. Good to know re the 787 on JAL. We may be forced to fly NRT-BOS or BOS-NRT if our routing works out to have too many HKG's in the segments, but with Malaysia Airlines on board now we may use KUL as a secondary jump off point (to HKT or Siem Riep) to avoid too many HKG segments.
People have told me to add Kyoto and Karabi and Bali and Myanmar too. We can't do all of those on top of PEK, HKG, NRT, HKT and Siem Riep but we can maybe add one or so. Thoughts on these? |
Originally Posted by Kachjc
(Post 21464521)
yeah one can safely say in Oneworld CX has the best F product, with QF maybe second
787's do not have first class |
[QUOTE=JALPak;21468155]I don't like CX's F seat. It has narrow foot space. Haven't tried the new F bedding but the old one was simply uncomfortable as you can feel the bumps easily. Not to mention the catering definitely and service level consistency have a lot of room for improvement.[/QUOTE
"I don't like CX's F seat" SHOCKER!!! |
[MODERATOR HAT ON]
Please limit posts in this thread to discussions of Oneworld first class routes, rather than specific itineraries, issues with individual FFP award rules, and so on. Questions and comments regarding airline FFPs should be directed to that airline's forum, not the Oneworld board. Thanks for keeping this thread on point. [/HAT] Gardyloo Oneworld moderator |
Updated to here.
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All the JAL domestic First Class routes on 777-200 are missing
HND-ITM/CTS/FUK/OKA |
Originally Posted by JALPak
(Post 21495109)
All the JAL domestic First Class routes on 777-200 are missing
HND-ITM/CTS/FUK/OKA |
Originally Posted by skunker
(Post 21496506)
I don't think domestic sub-1,000 mile flights would be a good use of a segment. Actually 2 segments since you would have to go back to HND.
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