In addition, ORD-DME should be removed.

CX HKG-BOM can be removed again :(
CX HKG-BKK should be (some flights) [less than 1 per day]

giveth and taketh away:

MIA-MAD goes back to 763 (J and Y only) starting 26 Aug 2009

BA LHR-CPT is now some flights too.

The seasonal flights BA42/43 won't have F this (southern hemisphere) summer.

Thanks everyone. OP is updated to here.

Of course, Qantas now have the 388 flying with First class.

other AA equipment downgrades (--)/upgrades (++) this winter:

Buenos Aires-Montevideo (763++>772) 19NOV09
Chicago-Brussels (772-->763) 26AUG09
JFK-Buenos Aires (763++>772) 19NOV09
JFK-Sao Paulo-Rio de Janeiro (772-->763) 19NOV09
Miami-Santiago (763++>772) 19NOV09
Raleigh-Heathrow (772-->763) already happened
Boston-Heathrow (772-->763) already happened??

Looks like JL are discontinuing F from NRT to DEL, SIN and BKK from Oct 25.
It's getting harder and harder to use an AONEx within Asia.

Happy Travels.

That's a real shame. Does that mean that if I book my AONEX now while that route still offers First, does JL then have to honour First class even at their expense? (ie. NRT-HKG-SIN). Or would they simply say stiff sh8T, you now fly biz.

If there was a reasonable alternative you should be offered that, however there may not be any in which case you fly business and *should* be given some compensation for the invol downgrade.

That is only the case if you already have a flight booked in first after Oct 25. If you book a ticket now, you cannot book the flight in first, so you fly in biz.

A workaround might be to use the QF codeshare of the JL NRT-SIN flight, as that still seems bookable in first.

The QF website and OAG now show First restored to QF73/74 between SYD and SFO effective 1 Feb 2010. The website will accept a booking, and it says it's in First (with price to match) but I haven't independently verified that the "temporary" suspension of First is actually ending.

Haven't checked the other suspension routes either.

Anyone else have any news about the QF plans?

I replied to your post in a similar topic on another thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/12345384-post30.html

F is currently showing on all three route from February 1st.

From looking at Expert Flyer it seems as if JFK-GRU-GIG will retain the 777 into 2010!

It looks as though CX has switched HKG-BOM from 744 to 343, so no F on that route any longer.
(There go another two segments of my AONE5; now down to 7 out of 16 in F.)

Happy Travels.

Been gone for a while. I decided not to give CX the pleasure of getting first class coupons for business class and we did a quick mileage run to Jakarta instead - and very pleasant it was too, although even then having specifically picked a day when it was scheduled to have a 74A they switched it to a 77A at the last minute...

But I find it very hard to justify AONEn tickets now that CX has clearly demonstrated than it has no commitment whatsoever to regional F.

New CX route HKG-MXP with F
 

CX is starting HKG-MXP from March 2010 with 777-300ER.
Is this the first new route with F for some time?
Limited use for AONEx though, as I don't think there is any other OW flight from MXP with F.

Happy Travels.

American Airlines
Aircraft type
All mainline aircraft type, but 757, A300 & MD-80 first class are of poor standard. Note within North & Central

Kiwi, You mentioned that 777 first class is of poor standard, I was looking at the ORD to LHR flight, I have never flown AA first class, but fly UA first class often, can you compare the two for me. Thanks.

Christep, what about KA? I flew them in F (on an AONE3) HKG-PEK and back earlier this year, and found them quite acceptable.

He seems to have said 757 not 777. I love 777 flagship suites.

Ahhhhh......i saw it as "All mainline aircraft type, but 757, A300 & MD-80 first class are of poor standard"

???????

Time to update this thread.

As per this thread. Leaving no oneworld options to AKL in F.

CX F to AKL is seasonal and operates in NZ summer, not winter.

I thought so too but looking at EF there are no F seats during December or January - didn't look before or after.

The seat maps show J beginning at row 11 on the 343s, so I suspect CX will be either allowing CX elites to sit up there (as they did when I was last on it) or else will close F entirely. Pity.

???
cathaypacific.com online booking/schedule tools show 34B for this route.
The online booking tool shows no firstclass equiped for HKG-AKL in December and January.

BA
 

I've attempted to update the list of BA routes with F class in this thread, specifically here. Any corrections very welcome.

Looks as though CX is cancelling F service to ICN (Seoul) for the winter.
Last flight with F seems to be Nov 23; resumes with one flight per week in mid-March.

That's the fourth segment of my AONE5 that CX has downgraded from F to J with no compensation.

Happy Travels.

Ouch!! Not wanting to rub salt into those wounds but... did you read the thread on the CX board about someone who got +/- $1500 for an F/J downgrade between NRT and HKG?

ETA: Correction: I see it's on this forum!

Just checked EF for the seven days beginning Jan 12, 2011. Shows CX 107 HKG-AKL daily 74A service with F. Depart HKG 2125, arrive AKL 1305+1. KVS shows the same daily service.

CX548/549 HKG-HND is a daily 744 with F
CX542/543 HKG-HND has F depending on the day of the week...

CX751 BKK-DEL is now sold as 3-class daily 5/16-10/29.

The aircraft generally (always?) has F seats but has been sold as 2-class in the recent past with the F section closed or offered to elites/full-fare J pax with business service. This is a recent change as when I booked a July ticket back in February F was unavailable but I was able to change the ticket today.

ORD-DEL is gone :-(

DFW-MAD goes to 777 starting June 1st ^. Not sure if this is seasonal or not.

That flight is HKG-BKK-DEL. HKG/BKK is one of the routes most subject to a/c substitution, so don't count on anything other than the possibility of last minute a/c substitutions. Just checked a few random dates in June and found 2 class 333s operating this flight.

Good point. FWIW my post was from last year when it was scheduled as a 744. It was a 744 when I flew it, though I have also flown CX751 HKG-BKK in the winter schedule when it was scheduled as a longhaul 333 and had it swapped for the shorthaul config. That's par for the course on CX intra-Asia. My anecdotal experience is the 744 flights are less likely to have aircraft swaps than the 77W flights, which become 772/773s quite frequently.

CGK flights have the same situation.: continuous aircraft change :td:

tell me about it. I was downgraded from F to J on my CGK flight because they switched it to offer F only on Saturday. Good that I didn't change my departure date because 3 weeks before departure, the 74A on Sat was downgraded to another aircraft without F :mad:

QF
SYD-EZE is no longer, replaced by SYD-SCL, now on a 3-class 744 (J/W/Y)...no more F.

BA are starting a LHR-ICN route late this year utilising a 777 with F cabin.

Time to update with MH F routes. A380 KUL-LHR. CDG-KUL starting soon.

I believe still SYD-KUL on, but about to end.

I've updated to post #79 but I expect there are lots of other changes to be made. All help is appreciated.