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Earthman: I've asked the folks at MA to look into the issues you and the thread have highlighted and let me have their comments. oneworld4u
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Change of Wording on Technical Rule Sheet
I have just noticed the following change on the technical rule sheet (at least I don't recall seeing this wording before), which would seem to settle the issue of using city codes instead of airport codes
A minimum of 3 and a maximum of 16 segments, including surface segments between any 2 airports, are permitted for the entire journey. |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 9940190)
I have just noticed the following change on the technical rule sheet (at least I don't recall seeing this wording before), which would seem to settle the issue of using city codes instead of airport codes
(their emphasis) oneworld4u:- What is the meaning of this rule change ?? |
The key question is whether it is possible still to ticket OW tickets using city names rather than specific airports, or has the whole concept of co-terminals just been ditched as well as part of this so-called improvement that is e-ticketing?
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Originally Posted by oneworld4u
(Post 9940182)
Earthman: I've asked the folks at MA to look into the issues you and the thread have highlighted and let me have their comments. oneworld4u
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Originally Posted by christep
(Post 9940368)
The key question is whether it is possible still to ticket OW tickets using city names rather than specific airports, or has the whole concept of co-terminals just been ditched as well as part of this so-called improvement that is e-ticketing?
How did they charge airport taxes for co-terminals/cities in old days ? For example, LHR and LGW have different taxes, NRT and HND have different taxes. In old days, taxes are collected at airport, so little problem, probably ? In these days, taxes are collected at ticketing. A highest tax among co-terminals/cities can be charged ? Anyway, some tricks are needed to handle this. I don't have any concrete opinion. Just a thought. |
I think they charge on the basis of the highest of the co-terminals. I'm travelling much, much less these days so it's been a while since I had any sort of ticket using co-terminals, but not so long ago that the taxes were collected at the airport! Last time I did it would have been about 3 years ago when I had part of a DONE4 (issued by CX in Taipei) open-dated as LHR-WAS-NYC-HKG where what I ended up flying was LHR-BWI//IAD-EWR//JFK-HKG. This caused absolutely no problems at all at the time.
But now we have the "progress and convenience" of e-ticketing, which as far as I am concerned, as it is currently implemented, is actually all about the profits and convenience of the airlines and is a major step backwards for the customer. |
I have heard that the OWE rules will be changing on July 10 - is there truth to this?
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Can't see anything about the rules, but the fares ex-Asia (excl Japan & Indonesia) are going up on 1 July for various OW fares. As notified by CX in HK:
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oneWorld Circle Pacific and Circle Asia and South West Pacific Fare Revise |
http://www.qantas.com.au/agents/dyn/qf/news/200806/0683
provides more on the above - looks like xONEx changes only in Aus, NZ and China/ HK Oneworld and Global Fare Changes 27 June 2008 Effective 01 July 2008 changes have been made to the following Oneworld and Global fares product. Changes - increases to fares ex Australia / New Zealand / China - Ekaterinburg (Asian Russia) to be treated as part of Europe-Middle East Airfares Oneworld Explorer Fares (AONE*/DONE*/L#ONE*) Global Explorer Fares (AGLOB*/DGLOB*/L#GLOB*) Oneworld Circle Trip Explorer Fares (AONEWC*/ DONEWC*/ L#ONEWC*) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Changes - increases to all fares except ex Australia / South America / Japan / Indonesia - introduction of fares ex Cambodia and Vietnam - Paragraph 4.b,B amended to read "for -CIR29SA fares, one Pacific crossing must be to/from Chile/Argentina" Airfares Oneworld Circle Pacific Fare (ACIR**/DCIR**/LCIR**) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Changes - increases to all fares except ex Australia / Japan / Indonesia - clarification that for the purposes of this rule, surface segments are "between any two airports" Airfares Oneworld Circle Asia and South West Pacific Fare (AAS13/17/ DAS13/17/ LAS13/17 To avoid the fare increase bookings created prior 01 July 2008 must be ticketed by 11 July 2008. |
Price increases and rule changes
Dear OW4U,
I am currently on my first AONE6 ex MRU and in the process of ordering my second to continue travelling directly after this one is finished. I am now on a paper 20 segment ticket and I can see the advantages of an e-ticket, so no problem with the 16 segments. The announcement of the possibility of booking the xONEx online was great news. Since I am currently working with the very charming, professional and 'willing to go the extra mile' BA representative at MRU I am somewhat hesitant to wait for the online option to be activated. In order for me to make the decision which option to use I would like to know:
I love the product (prefer the 'continent' approach and the backtracking) and love the airlines. Just think the management of the RTW routes is a little labour intensive. Last question: it looks like some OneWorld partners a more hesitant to free up A class seats since I will be always waitlisted for the F class segments, but never for the C class segments (the name CX comes to mind...). Is this a known issue when travelling on a BA AONEx ex MRU (or other low cost option)? Issue resolved! Thanks for the time! |
Dear OW4U,
As I have talked about in another post, I have run into a brick wall trying to book a DGLOB34 that includes the routing HNL-NAN-BNE. These are QF/FJ codeshares, QF3840 and QF398. However, the Global Explorer webpage suggests that I should be able to use these as they are operated by Air Pacific (not part of OW, but specifically mentioned as usable in a OWGE). Can you please clarify whether this is a misunderstanding on AA's end, or a valid rule that needs to be updated on the webpage. |
Originally Posted by oneworld4u
... Can you imagine the complexity in supporting the sale of a product not based on these global industry-wide standards? Can you imagine the number of FT blogs that would flow as a result of sales agents around the world being unfamiliar with the additional idiosyncrasies of such a fare? How many of the participants of this forum for experts and enthusiasts, let alone the standard small town travel agent, have heard of such a thing as “linked PNRs”, quite apart from understanding how they may work?
So, sorry Viajero, Hugh and others, but linked PNRs is not regarded as a practical procedure for this product at this time. ... |
OW4U,
Two additional questions: My lovely BA rep in MRU says she cannot issue an e-ticket with sectors open. This is surely wrong. She cannot issue a ticket with all sectors open, at least one needs to be confirmed, but that is the only restriction, right? Any idear when the online tool goes live? Is this a matter of weeks or months? No definite answer needed, an indication will do... :D Thanks! Henk |
Originally Posted by serfty
(Post 9973992)
Ok, this directly implies that "Linked PNR's" do exist, but are not widely known.
I asked her to combine them as I was connecting and they did. The QF PNR now lists all the RJ flights as well (missing things like seating requests). She apparently had to get both the RJ and the QF people on the phone and conference them, so they could each do what they had to do in their own system, as opposed to doing it herself. Of course, I then called MA to connect my other two sectors to RJ, but they had a lot of trouble working out what the hell I was after :) |
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