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IC6A Aug 15, 2008 11:25 am

No availabilities for whole year?
 
Dear friends and OW4U. Here I have one question for you.

I purchased LONE4. There is one sector DPS-HKG. I called AA for availabilities. And i checked myself. Among all the dates I have checked from this August to next July. There is no one single dates L class is open!! Yes the flight is still available but only Y and B is open for the whole year!

I was originallay booked in 22nd November but due to plan change I decide to take that part of trip in July 09.

Now with our admired CX only open Y and B in that sector for the whole year, I have to make it open and, all the sector in AU open as well!

I do not wish to blame CX to only sell Y and B in that sector (even though we know lots of other classes being sold somewhere else). I would like to as for some suggestions from you guys. As I may have to throw this LONE4 ticket away if I can not booked into this flight.

And for OW4U, in case that there is no availability at all for the sector we have booked, what rules and regulation OneWorld may bring in to gurantee consumer that the ticket would not be involunntory invalid?

christep Aug 15, 2008 12:27 pm


Originally Posted by IC6A (Post 10207098)
Now with our admired CX only open Y and B in that sector for the whole year, I have to make it open and, all the sector in AU open as well!

You seem to be under the impression that if you have an open segment then all the following segments must also be open. This is not the case: there's no problem at all having confirmed segments later in an itinerary than open ones.

IC6A Aug 15, 2008 4:55 pm


Originally Posted by christep (Post 10207479)
You seem to be under the impression that if you have an open segment then all the following segments must also be open. This is not the case: there's no problem at all having confirmed segments later in an itinerary than open ones.

Thank you Christep.

The reason for the open dated AU sector is because it is more than 330 days away...lol

However I can not risky waiting CX flying empty plane not to open L class...And it is not particular economical to make it one surface sector.

Any more suggestions gurus....

serfty Aug 15, 2008 10:38 pm

Speaking of 330 days, one can only search (currently) up to 12th July '09.

Looking at those that I can see, there is a consistant J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 availability.

In fact taking a seven days snapshot of everry month between now and then ; I onlt see Y and B

IC6A Aug 17, 2008 2:00 am


Originally Posted by serfty (Post 10210142)
Speaking of 330 days, one can only search (currently) up to 12th July '09.

Looking at those that I can see, there is a consistant J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 availability.

In fact taking a seven days snapshot of everry month between now and then ; I onlt see Y and B

Exactly, that is what is annoying me now. How on earth they only open Y and B? I can not believe the yield they can drive on that route while SQ, GA, FD, MH, UO and TG have huge stock and inventory. Not to mention UO are flying directly as well!

I shall continue wait without patient.

IC6A Aug 18, 2008 4:11 am

Had a look again today. Still no hope.

Just wonder if POS would help?

jahason Sep 23, 2008 6:30 am


Originally Posted by oneworld4u (Post 9940182)
Earthman: I've asked the folks at MA to look into the issues you and the thread have highlighted and let me have their comments. oneworld4u


oneworld4u,

I have the same exact issue with RJ. And judging by the BA forum I am not alone. I plan to use RJ more often when flying east and would request if you can ask the people at RJ to look into this too.

Currently I am chasing up an outbound AMM-DXB flight when I was automatically credited for the return DXB-AMM flight. So far I have had an e-mail of rejection and subsequently told by BA that I was a "no show". I gave BA the ticket number (again) and asked them to re-investigate.

brithk Sep 24, 2008 9:17 pm

Do Children count as guests at the lounge?
 
Hi

When i fly with CX with my Children they are not counted as guests. i assume this si because children can not join the MPC (no under 18's), so they all have my status on their BP.
BUt is it the same for other One World airlines - a friend of mine was nearly turned away from a LHR BA lounge bcse he had 2 kids and his wife (diamond is allwoed 2 guests) - after some "discussion" he was allowed in. But what is the official stance - i imagine it may up to the airline in question, but if so that makes it very difficult to families to travel on one world airlines other than their own.

I certainly would never fly on another OW airline as the lounge is the only thing that makes travelling with Kids bearable...

thanks

christep Sep 24, 2008 9:50 pm


Originally Posted by brithk (Post 10421599)
a friend of mine was nearly turned away from a LHR BA lounge bcse he had 2 kids and his wife (diamond is allowed 2 guests)

No - in a BA lounge a non-BA OW Emerald (e.g. a CX Diamond) is allowed one guest. Two guests is only in CX lounges under CX rules.

thadocta Sep 24, 2008 10:48 pm


Originally Posted by christep (Post 10421734)
No - in a BA lounge a non-BA OW Emerald (e.g. a CX Diamond) is allowed one guest. Two guests is only in CX lounges under CX rules.

QF also will allow you to take your kids in, even if it means exceeding the guest quota, although if OW Emerald flying in J or Y they may ask you to use the J lounge instead.

Dave

paul4471 Sep 24, 2008 11:26 pm


Originally Posted by jahason (Post 10410954)
oneworld4u,

I have the same exact issue with RJ. And judging by the BA forum I am not alone.
So far I have had an e-mail of rejection and subsequently told by BA that I was a "no show". I gave BA the ticket number (again) and asked them to re-investigate.


When AA chased my missing AMM-KRT they were advised by RJ that they had credited the points to my RJ FF account - funny seeing as I don't have one and given the other 3 RJ sectors on the itin had credited to my AA account no problem! Was all sorted when I insisted that RJ send me a copy of my so called FF account with them showing this, suddenly all OK and they credited it to my AA account.

RJ will definitely need a kick in the pants somewhere along the OW line.

paul4471

brithk Sep 25, 2008 2:06 am


Originally Posted by christep (Post 10421734)
No - in a BA lounge a non-BA OW Emerald (e.g. a CX Diamond) is allowed one guest. Two guests is only in CX lounges under CX rules.

apologies but the point is the same - do kids count?

ow4u - is there a ow policy on children?

jahason Sep 25, 2008 5:15 am


Originally Posted by brithk (Post 10422448)
apologies but the point is the same - do kids count?

ow4u - is there a ow policy on children?

Still not directly answering your question, my experience with BA lounges when travelling with wife and five year old daughter is to ask politely acknowledging that BA are well within their rights not to allow both of my guests in. In all cases the reply has been that we are all welcome to go inside.

oneworld4u Oct 3, 2008 10:21 am

Children in lounges
 
brithk:

Under the oneworld lounge policy, frequent flyer cardholders eligible to use lounges may invite one guest to join them in the lounge. The guest could be adult or a child, but, officially, not both.

Some individual airlines may allow cardholders to be accompanied by an adult guest plus a child/children, but that is subject to the discretion and policy of the appropriate airline. As above, the policy is just one guest...

Hope this clarifies the situation for you.

Happy flying.

oneworld4u



Originally Posted by brithk (Post 10421599)
Hi

When i fly with CX with my Children they are not counted as guests. i assume this si because children can not join the MPC (no under 18's), so they all have my status on their BP.
BUt is it the same for other One World airlines - a friend of mine was nearly turned away from a LHR BA lounge bcse he had 2 kids and his wife (diamond is allwoed 2 guests) - after some "discussion" he was allowed in. But what is the official stance - i imagine it may up to the airline in question, but if so that makes it very difficult to families to travel on one world airlines other than their own.

I certainly would never fly on another OW airline as the lounge is the only thing that makes travelling with Kids bearable...

thanks


kebosabi Oct 7, 2008 3:59 pm

More and more airlines are joing airline alliances, but mainly on Star Alliance and Skyteam. With this trend in place, it seems that the number of potential carriers into oneworld are becoming very limited. Do you guys feel any pressure with regards to this? Or are you looking into wooing some of the carriers on other alliances into oneworld, similar to Mexicana? And of course, can you give us any hints on potential future members? ;)


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