Circle Pacific Experts ?
Dec 14, 2007 | 6:26 pm
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: YVR
Programs: QF LTG AC *G
Posts: 373
Circle Pacific Experts ?
Hi All, I just booked a DCIR22 fare from YVR and the QF agent (US based) would not allow me to use the Alaska Airlines codeshares in the itinerary, he told me that this is no longer possible. I wanted to book QF 3770 (Alaska Metal) but he made me book a day earlier to get on QF 74 (Qantas Metal) from YVR-SFO.
Can anyone shed any light on this ? I'm thinking I'll wait till 10.30pm and phone back when the phones are switched through to Australia and see if I can find someone who can fix this.
Thanks in advance.
Can anyone shed any light on this ? I'm thinking I'll wait till 10.30pm and phone back when the phones are switched through to Australia and see if I can find someone who can fix this.
Thanks in advance.
Dec 14, 2007 | 6:33 pm
#2
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: SYD BXG
Programs: QF WP/LTG | UA P
Posts: 13,664
Pure passenger comfort in Business will be 1000% better on the QF 744 than anything that AS (First) can come up with.
I assume the rules prohibit use of non-QF operated flights - as do the xONEx rules?
I assume the rules prohibit use of non-QF operated flights - as do the xONEx rules?
Dec 14, 2007 | 6:47 pm
#3
Original Poster
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: YVR
Programs: QF LTG AC *G
Posts: 373
I agree on the comfort factor (however it means an extra day away from home), however I've used these codeshares on xonex's and DCIR's before without any problems. Anyone point me to the detailed rules, I can't seem to find them, in the past I think the codeshares were specifically mentioned as being allowed.
Dec 14, 2007 | 8:08 pm
#5
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Melbourne
Programs: ►QFWP/LTG►VA WP►HyattDisc.►HiltonGold►ALL Plat.
Posts: 22,328
This rule seems to have changed:
Rules published 13DEC07:
Rules published 13DEC07:
A. Travel must be on the services of BA/CX/EG/JC/JL/JO/KA/NU/QF and their affiliates only.
F. Travel on any BA/CX/EG/JC/JL/JO/KA/NU/QF codeshare service operated by BA/CX/EG/JC/JL/JO/KA/NU/QF. Other codeshare services not permitted.
Dec 14, 2007 | 10:27 pm
#6
Original Poster
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: YVR
Programs: QF LTG AC *G
Posts: 373
It doesn't make sense. QF 73/74 is seasonal. When QF metal flights are not operating, it wouldn't be possible to include YVR in a DCIR routing if this rule is correct.
I originally tried to book this itinerary with AA and they had no problem with the AS codeshare (YVR-SFO) but they couldn't get their system to book the QF flight numbers for SFO-SYD and I need to get my four QF flights to maintain status so I thought I'd book direct with QF.
I'm confused, is our Oneworld shrinking ?
I originally tried to book this itinerary with AA and they had no problem with the AS codeshare (YVR-SFO) but they couldn't get their system to book the QF flight numbers for SFO-SYD and I need to get my four QF flights to maintain status so I thought I'd book direct with QF.
I'm confused, is our Oneworld shrinking ?
Dec 15, 2007 | 12:00 am
#7
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: SYD BXG
Programs: QF WP/LTG | UA P
Posts: 13,664
Dec 15, 2007 | 10:25 am
#9
Original Poster
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: YVR
Programs: QF LTG AC *G
Posts: 373
Maybe, feel free to move it if you like.
No joy from the Australian Agent either, it looks like I'm stuck with leaving a day earlier than I wanted to.
Canada really needs some oneworld connections.
No joy from the Australian Agent either, it looks like I'm stuck with leaving a day earlier than I wanted to.
Canada really needs some oneworld connections.
Dec 15, 2007 | 12:35 pm
#10
Moderator, OneWorld
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: SEA
Programs: RAA RIP; AA ExEXP
Posts: 12,521
Dec 15, 2007 | 4:43 pm
#11
Original Poster
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: YVR
Programs: QF LTG AC *G
Posts: 373
Gardyloo, I hear ya but realistically Canada is pretty tough to get around on Oneworld, how do you get from Vancouver to Calgary, Winnipeg or Toronto ?
JL is a welcome addition but it only adds Mexico City and Tokyo. AA only does DFW, apart from the seasonal QF 74/3, LAX and SFO are no go.
JL is a welcome addition but it only adds Mexico City and Tokyo. AA only does DFW, apart from the seasonal QF 74/3, LAX and SFO are no go.
Dec 15, 2007 | 5:12 pm
#12
Moderator, OneWorld
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: SEA
Programs: RAA RIP; AA ExEXP
Posts: 12,521
Gardyloo, I hear ya but realistically Canada is pretty tough to get around on Oneworld, how do you get from Vancouver to Calgary, Winnipeg or Toronto ?
JL is a welcome addition but it only adds Mexico City and Tokyo. AA only does DFW, apart from the seasonal QF 74/3, LAX and SFO are no go.
JL is a welcome addition but it only adds Mexico City and Tokyo. AA only does DFW, apart from the seasonal QF 74/3, LAX and SFO are no go.
Dec 21, 2007 | 2:01 pm
#13
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: YYZ
Programs: Haven't been flying for a while... :(
Posts: 478
The loss of Canadian Airlines in oneworld has badly damaged those connections. AA did try to get in the fun of buying them out, though.
I'm waiting for Westjet to get in the fun.
I'm waiting for Westjet to get in the fun.
Dec 23, 2007 | 6:01 am
#14
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: In Exile
Programs: QFF WP :-0, AC, FlyBuys, Porter's Liquor Store, Mother's Helper
Posts: 2,496
Dec 24, 2007 | 4:34 am
#15
Moderator: Asiana & Qantas Frequent Flyer
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: STR/SYD/SMF
Programs: QF LTG / P1 , LH LT SEN / HON, OZ LT Diamond +, Marriott LT PT, HH Diamond,
Posts: 15,149
Gardyloo, I hear ya but realistically Canada is pretty tough to get around on Oneworld, how do you get from Vancouver to Calgary, Winnipeg or Toronto ?
JL is a welcome addition but it only adds Mexico City and Tokyo. AA only does DFW, apart from the seasonal QF 74/3, LAX and SFO are no go.
JL is a welcome addition but it only adds Mexico City and Tokyo. AA only does DFW, apart from the seasonal QF 74/3, LAX and SFO are no go.
That's just how it is. We all wish that each alliance would cover every route on earth but this is just not the case.