DONE3 - please critique/validate
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Read from another thread that it's incredibly difficult to obtain D seats for the CX JFK-HKG non-stop. How far ahead should I be booking?
...OT but that's very interesting - I've always wondered how revenue from a RTW is distributed? Based on % of distance flown on the itinerary?
...OT but that's very interesting - I've always wondered how revenue from a RTW is distributed? Based on % of distance flown on the itinerary?
The exact formula for OWE fare allocation is a trade secret, but the "over ocean" routes get the lion's share of the fare. So 3 sectors out of the 20 get more than half of the ticket revenue (or 5x the revenue of the other sectors). Thus the airlines all want to fly trans-Atlantic, trans-Pacific and Europe-Asia/Australia on these tickets. Some similar length/service flights, such as LHR-JNB or JFK-EZE get far less, so it isn't a fair division, but the airlines made up these rules. Again not enough of these tickets to really matter, so the airlines leave the system as it is.
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FWIW, the one stop service was fine, with a 'dinner' flight and a 'sleep' flight.
Last edited by serfty; Jan 26, 2007 at 6:48 pm
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52N . 8. WITHIN THE US/CANADA-
53N . * ONLY 1 NONSTOP OR SINGLE PLANE
54N . TRANSCONTINENTAL
55N . FLIGHT PERMITTED.
56N . TRANSCONTINENTAL FLIGHT IS DEFINED AS TRAVEL
57N . BETWEEN THE FOLLOWING CITIES:
58N .
59N . BWI/BOS/FLL/BDL/MIA/EWR/NYC/ORL/PHL/SJU/YYZ/WAS
60N . AND
61N . LAS/LGB/LAX/OAK/SNA/PDX/SAN/SFO/SEA/SJC/YVR
62N . * ONLY 1 FLIGHT TO ANC AND 1 FLIGHT FROM ANC
63N . PERMITTED.
64N . * ONLY 1 FLIGHT BETWEEN HAWAII AND THE
65N . CONTINENTAL US INCLUDING PRVI/CANADA
53N . * ONLY 1 NONSTOP OR SINGLE PLANE
54N . TRANSCONTINENTAL
55N . FLIGHT PERMITTED.
56N . TRANSCONTINENTAL FLIGHT IS DEFINED AS TRAVEL
57N . BETWEEN THE FOLLOWING CITIES:
58N .
59N . BWI/BOS/FLL/BDL/MIA/EWR/NYC/ORL/PHL/SJU/YYZ/WAS
60N . AND
61N . LAS/LGB/LAX/OAK/SNA/PDX/SAN/SFO/SEA/SJC/YVR
62N . * ONLY 1 FLIGHT TO ANC AND 1 FLIGHT FROM ANC
63N . PERMITTED.
64N . * ONLY 1 FLIGHT BETWEEN HAWAII AND THE
65N . CONTINENTAL US INCLUDING PRVI/CANADA
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Maybe I'm missing something, but wouldn't the revised itinerary be a good candidate for Global Explorer instead of DONE3?
Could easily fit under the maximum mileage of DGLOBxx, which opens up having more segments in europe, non-oneworld airlines, etc.
Could easily fit under the maximum mileage of DGLOBxx, which opens up having more segments in europe, non-oneworld airlines, etc.
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edited to add - Just checked it out. It's distance-based (up to 34 000 miles for D and much more expensive :S), so that wouldn;t work for my itinerary as it involves lots of backtracking. Also, it doesn't include Alaskan airlines which is what I need to get to/from SEA. Getting 2 extra sectors in Europe doesn't seem too bad if I buy them in economy.
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Er, well all you need is an airline rep or TA who can hold reservations for you. You could make a reservation on a JL D class flight as part of an itinerary right now - it's only ticketing it as a OWE that you couldn't do. It is a fundamental point that people seem to fail to get that reservations and ticketing are seperate things. The only problem you have to manage is the ability to hold reservations without a ticket number applied to them.

