Suggestion for FF programme
#1
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I currently work for a consultancy company where I travel regularly to widely scattered parts of the globe. There is usually a convenient Star Alliance routing, and my company allows me to organise my own travel subject to our class of service policies and not taking the mickey with more expensive routings. Due to the excellent value offered by miles+cash, I credit my miles to my bmi diamond club account.
This is all about to change, as I'm expecting to start at a new position with an investment bank. I'll be London based, with the expectation of at least four round-trips yearly in first class to New York with AA; with possible travel to Japan (although I believe the contracted carrier for this route is ANA, so those miles would probably stay with bmi). I also do some leisure travel, say four transatlantic-length returns, as well as short haul within Europe - this is usually economy/premium-economy class travel.
I'm hoping to find a oneworld programme in which my travel patterns will yield either Sapphire or Emerald level, thereby allowing lounge access on my leisure travel. The two programmes about which I know anything (AAdvantage and BA Exec Club) are non-starters because the AA flights couldn't be credited to BA, and the AA programme only gives 1.5x EQP for first class with 50,000 needed to get to Platinum.
Any suggestions?
This is all about to change, as I'm expecting to start at a new position with an investment bank. I'll be London based, with the expectation of at least four round-trips yearly in first class to New York with AA; with possible travel to Japan (although I believe the contracted carrier for this route is ANA, so those miles would probably stay with bmi). I also do some leisure travel, say four transatlantic-length returns, as well as short haul within Europe - this is usually economy/premium-economy class travel.
I'm hoping to find a oneworld programme in which my travel patterns will yield either Sapphire or Emerald level, thereby allowing lounge access on my leisure travel. The two programmes about which I know anything (AAdvantage and BA Exec Club) are non-starters because the AA flights couldn't be credited to BA, and the AA programme only gives 1.5x EQP for first class with 50,000 needed to get to Platinum.
Any suggestions?
#2


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I think if you'll be based in London with a fair amount of transatlantic travel, CX's program would be a good option.. My reasons:
1) CX let's you credit both BA and AA. Both BA and AA won't let you credit the other airline's ticket for trans-atlantic. This leaves you with more options out of LON.
2) If you'll be flying some economy or premier economy, again, BA does not give tier points for most economy tickets, and only 25% award miles. Cathay is far more generous with crediting economy miles.
The one disadv that CX has is that it is much harder to reach elite level tiers, but once you do, it's certainly more exclusive with greater benefits than other OW Elite programs.
1) CX let's you credit both BA and AA. Both BA and AA won't let you credit the other airline's ticket for trans-atlantic. This leaves you with more options out of LON.
2) If you'll be flying some economy or premier economy, again, BA does not give tier points for most economy tickets, and only 25% award miles. Cathay is far more generous with crediting economy miles.
The one disadv that CX has is that it is much harder to reach elite level tiers, but once you do, it's certainly more exclusive with greater benefits than other OW Elite programs.
#3
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Originally Posted by NickW
The two programmes about which I know anything (AAdvantage and BA Exec Club) are non-starters because the AA flights couldn't be credited to BA, and the AA programme only gives 1.5x EQP for first class with 50,000 needed to get to Platinum.
If you don't want to go down the BA route, maybe it is worth looking at QF which like the BA programme is very generous status earning wise for premium fares as well as allowing you to credit both AA and BA travel across the atlantic. It does however suffer from expensive redemption rates and it very mean on both mileage earning and status earning fares less than Y, however most fares credit something and that alone is attractive for some flyers.
Anecdotal evidence on this board seem to indicate that AY flyers whilst happy with their carrier don't particularly like their programme. CX is quite a difficult programme although seems particularly generous with cheap fare classes (http://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_.../terms#earning) so whilst it takes a lot to hit top tier with them, even V class CX flights get 100% miles. There is very little information on FT about IB's programme as well as LA so it would be difficult to recommend either of those programmes.
JL is joining OW shortly (around April 2007) and should you be travelling to Japan that maybe worth looking into. A trip to the JL board might be therefore in order.
Finally, should you just require OW lounge access, you may wish to consider joining QF's Qantas Club which will provide you with lounge access whenever you fly QF, BA and AA as well as bizarrely US.
http://www.qantas.com.au/info/flying/qantasClub/index
#4
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My suggestion: AAdvantage. Yes, I noticed the bit about AA being a non-starter, but I think you should reconsider, based on this suggested plan: use your business travels as the core and, for leisure, do one xDONEx every two years. That plan will give you, at a minum, EXP every two years, falling back (without even flying) to PLT every year in between.
#5
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I think I'd mentally underestimated how long a sector LHR-JFK actually is! Given that it's almost 3,500 miles, a mile-based programme like AAdvantage could actually work even given the relatively small class-of-service bonus.
I have a sequence of long flights coming up on AA later this year (BRU-JFK-EZE-JFK-BRU) which will easily qualify me for the Platinum Challenge, so I'll sign up for that.
It's a shame about the BA/AA thing, because I'd hit Gold (ie Emerald) every year in Executive Club based on the way BA gives out tier points, but I'll have to add a significant amount of travel even to hit Platinum (ie Sapphire) on AA.
I have a sequence of long flights coming up on AA later this year (BRU-JFK-EZE-JFK-BRU) which will easily qualify me for the Platinum Challenge, so I'll sign up for that.
It's a shame about the BA/AA thing, because I'd hit Gold (ie Emerald) every year in Executive Club based on the way BA gives out tier points, but I'll have to add a significant amount of travel even to hit Platinum (ie Sapphire) on AA.
#6
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Originally Posted by Viajero
My suggestion: AAdvantage. Yes, I noticed the bit about AA being a non-starter, but I think you should reconsider, based on this suggested plan: use your business travels as the core and, for leisure, do one xDONEx every two years. That plan will give you, at a minum, EXP every two years, falling back (without even flying) to PLT every year in between.
One thing about non-Atlantic FFPs is that most require a certain number of sponsor metal flights annually to retain status (e.g. four QF metal flights etc.) That might be an issue for you given your travel patterns.
#7
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Originally Posted by NickW
...Given that it's almost 3,500 miles...
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Originally Posted by Viajero
Or 6200, if you are willing to do a little MR detour via DFW... and then you make PLT just with the business trips.
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Originally Posted by bensyd
With that amount of travel all on AA could you not see if they will comp you to PLT status?
#13
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Originally Posted by Gardyloo
One thing about non-Atlantic FFPs is that most require a certain number of sponsor metal flights annually to retain status (e.g. four QF metal flights etc.) That might be an issue for you given your travel patterns.
#14
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Originally Posted by Gardyloo
They don't comp; the challenge takes its place.

