OneWorld Explorer Fare Update 01JUL06
#31
Moderator, Hilton Honors
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: on a short leash
Programs: some
Posts: 71,422
Another thank you to all involved in providing the fare and rule updates. I just saved USD$125 change fee thanks to knowing the rules. Interestingly my TA using a different GDS had different rules(!), but QF confirmed the rules as posted here.
#32
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: LAX
Posts: 3,639
Originally Posted by number_6
Interesting, my own experience is that whenever there was a discrepancy between airlines it was a mistake and rectified when pointed out -- your experience suggests a deliberate difference and no attempt to reconcile it. Too bad if oneworld is starting to fall apart -- how ironic to have a Oneworld branded product that is inconsistent between members!
And how the heck do they deal with fuel surcharges? Unlike the taxes and fees breakdown which is cryptic but presumably means something, with fuel surcharge they don't seem to note "paid fuel surcharge for JFK-LHR" on the ticket. How can they account for that? What keeps BA/LHR from looking at my ticket at checkin and demanding USD55 for a little extra kerosene? (AA is becoming famous, in Central America at least, for looking at my ticket, announcing that my airport fees haven't been paid, and charging me a tidy add-collect.).
#34
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Madrid, Spain & Santiago, Chile
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 3,181
Originally Posted by RoarAhead
Are the attractive Mauritius prices for real or just "stale" or as is often the case with the too-good-to-be-true fares?
#35
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Portland OR Double Emerald (QF and AA), DL PM/MM, Starwood Plat
Posts: 19,589
Originally Posted by RoarAhead
Are the attractive Mauritius prices for real or just "stale" or as is often the case with the too-good-to-be-true fares?
#37
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Cayman, San Diego, London
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold, AA 4MM Lifetime Platinum, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond Amb, Bonvoy Lifetime Gold
Posts: 1,054
Originally Posted by number_6
You are a bit too late, the prices were attractive before the July 2006 price increase, now it is not so attractive (at least when you factor in the location and the need to add an extra continent if you weren't wanting Africa). I have no doubt that the posted fare increase is real.
So, in theory, MRU looks good, but for First Class RTWs it's pretty limited.
#38
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: CPT
Programs: BA BD SA
Posts: 4,467
Originally Posted by Full Score
From Sept 16 BA (Comair) have a Saturdays only MRU-JNB which helps, but there is no A class, just as there is no A class from, say, JNB to HKG. Even JNB to SYD only has A class on certain days of the week.
So, in theory, MRU looks good, but for First Class RTWs it's pretty limited.
So, in theory, MRU looks good, but for First Class RTWs it's pretty limited.
#39
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: YVR occasionally
Programs: OW Emerald (AA-EXP, BA-Gold)
Posts: 261
Originally Posted by number_6
You are a bit too late, the prices were attractive before the July 2006 price increase, now it is not so attractive (at least when you factor in the location and the need to add an extra continent if you weren't wanting Africa). I have no doubt that the posted fare increase is real.
The incremental cost of the extra continent seems to be under US$900 (in A). Later in the fall, I was planning to start an AONE5 from MRU and to get to there by using a DONE4 from either BKK or CMB but await further information about experiences in ticketing ex-MRU and also whether the JNB-MRU will really happen.
#40
Join Date: Apr 2006
Programs: AA ExP 5MM, DL Lifetime Medallion 2.3MM
Posts: 68
Outrageous RTW increases!
I have 5,000,000 miles on RTW tickets. I've been buying them from NBO for some time but am shocked at the $3,000 increase. MRU is not a terrible price but is pretty inaccessable. Any other ideas for the four continent flyer?
#41
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Dallas, TX & Philadelphia, PA
Programs: Platinum AAdvantage, Gold HiltonHHonors, SPG, USAir, Delta Skymiles, A+ Rewards
Posts: 102
Originally Posted by sllevin
Does anyone have a SOF-based agent? I may actually be doing some travel to SOF and this could dovetail well for me.
Steve
Steve
#42
Join Date: Apr 2006
Programs: AA ExP 5MM, DL Lifetime Medallion 2.3MM
Posts: 68
Fares and locations
Originally Posted by tokatya
OK.... I could be wrong on this but how does it matter if a travel agent is phisically in Sofia (SOF) or anywhere else? Shouldn't pricing be somewhat similar regardless of the location of the travel agent that books it. Is there something here that I am missing?
1. Where the ticket originates and,
2. Where it is purchased.
Prices on an AONE4 (around the world four continent first class ticket on the One World Alliance) varried from $6000 to over $12,000 depending on the origination (which also had to be the termination popint). I was saving a lot because I go to Nairobi a lot even though I live in the US. I flew one way to Nairobi several years ago and have been buying six or eight around the world tickets each year since then with layovers in the US (also Hong Kong, Australia, or Europe). The price for the ticket I use went from $6400 to $9400 from June 30th to July first. That's why I'm ticked.
#43
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: LAX
Posts: 3,639
Originally Posted by ReelChief
The incremental cost of the extra continent seems to be under US$900 (in A). Later in the fall, I was planning to start an AONE5 from MRU and to get to there by using a DONE4 from either BKK or CMB but await further information about experiences in ticketing ex-MRU and also whether the JNB-MRU will really happen.
#44
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: LAX
Posts: 3,639
Originally Posted by tokatya
OK.... I could be wrong on this but how does it matter if a travel agent is phisically in Sofia (SOF) or anywhere else? Shouldn't pricing be somewhat similar regardless of the location of the travel agent that books it. Is there something here that I am missing?
Arranging and pricing an rtw can take something between hours (unlikely) and a couple of weeks (also hopefully rare) so most people like to make the arrangements in advance. Since the sale must take place in the originating country (and some airlines are reportedly grumpy even about making the booking from the U.S.) having an agent in the originating country is considered indispensible by many here, but if you're the gambling type you can show up and try to make the arrangements there, with the airline ticket counter.
In many cases the airline is willing to be the agent, if they have an office there. About the only advantage of using a travel agent is that a few are willing to FedEx paper tickets so you have them in hand and have one less thing to worry about.
#45
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Circle City
Posts: 3,568
Minor changes
From what I could see, these are the only changes.
1. If you upgrade before departure, you have to satisfy the minimum purchase requirements. This, of course, is upgrading the entire ticket and not upgrading through miles or certificates.
2. Cleaned up language and clarified that for trips starting in the SWP, you can do a transoceanic surface segment between Area1 and Area 2 or 3. QE2, there you go.
3. In case you wanted to take a group of good friends or grateful flyertalkers on a group rtw, the biz booking code is I and the coach code is G. I still don't know how they are going to get 10 I or G seats, but it's nothing I will ever have to worry about...unless someone is feeling generous.
No fare changes.
1. If you upgrade before departure, you have to satisfy the minimum purchase requirements. This, of course, is upgrading the entire ticket and not upgrading through miles or certificates.
2. Cleaned up language and clarified that for trips starting in the SWP, you can do a transoceanic surface segment between Area1 and Area 2 or 3. QE2, there you go.
3. In case you wanted to take a group of good friends or grateful flyertalkers on a group rtw, the biz booking code is I and the coach code is G. I still don't know how they are going to get 10 I or G seats, but it's nothing I will ever have to worry about...unless someone is feeling generous.
No fare changes.