New oneworld itinerary validator
Jul 4, 2007, 6:48 pm
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Originally Posted by Rhys1
... Is this actually a valid itinerary? The oneworld tool doesnt have a problem with it and I can't see a problem in the rules.
<never mind>
Last edited by serfty; Jul 4, 2007 at 6:55 pm
Jul 4, 2007, 6:49 pm
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Welcome to Flyer Talk Rhys1 
Morocco is treated as part of Europe according to xONEx rules, and so allowed on that basis. Perhaps the surface segment (within Morocco) is confusing the validator?
Morocco is treated as part of Europe according to xONEx rules, and so allowed on that basis. Perhaps the surface segment (within Morocco) is confusing the validator?
Jul 4, 2007, 6:49 pm
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Originally Posted by xONEx rules effective 15 May 2007
Continents are defined as:
Europe Middle East (including Algeria , Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt, Sudan)
Europe Middle East (including Algeria , Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt, Sudan)
Jul 4, 2007, 7:19 pm
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Been a long time reader.I have tried without the surface sector and still get the error.
Jul 5, 2007, 4:03 am
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I am trying to validate the following:
SYD-HKG-SIN-BKK,SGN-NRT-SVO-BUD,SOF-LON-CAS,RAK-BCN-BUE-LIM-LPB-SCL-SYD
And I get an error on:
12: RAK-BCN: 4th of 4 (Europe)
Rule violated!!!! [RAK-BCN] Max 1 segment(s): Ghana/Nigeria/Kenya/Uganda/Tanzania transit (second EUR entry?)
SYD-HKG-SIN-BKK,SGN-NRT-SVO-BUD,SOF-LON-CAS,RAK-BCN-BUE-LIM-LPB-SCL-SYD
And I get an error on:
12: RAK-BCN: 4th of 4 (Europe)
Rule violated!!!! [RAK-BCN] Max 1 segment(s): Ghana/Nigeria/Kenya/Uganda/Tanzania transit (second EUR entry?)
Another welcome to FT
And thanks for noticing that bug
Jul 5, 2007, 4:08 am
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Wow :)
Wow That's very kind of you all to say so
I'm pleased that I'm able to contribute something back to FT, from which I've learned a lot. It's also great to know that the time I spend is appreciated and of use to many! However most of the credit goes to hauteboy who created Mileage Monkey in the first place - I'm just tinkering with it here & there.
That's very kind of you all to say so I'm pleased that I'm able to contribute something back to FT, from which I've learned a lot. It's also great to know that the time I spend is appreciated and of use to many! However most of the credit goes to hauteboy who created Mileage Monkey in the first place - I'm just tinkering with it here & there.
Jul 5, 2007, 8:08 am
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My silliness
Using the link-to feature, this shows as 1260 - however, it is also flagging services it doesn't believe exists:
Note that it's working on the assumption that you're right & it's wrong (i.e. that the services do exist), so it's proceeding to count them as valid sectors.
Perhaps you wanted to explicitly mark them as surface sectors, like this: http://slfft.allhyper.com/0.95/award...HR-BKK-SIN-SYD
Does that give you the answer you're expecting? If not, can you help me understand the problem better?
Note that it's working on the assumption that you're right & it's wrong (i.e. that the services do exist), so it's proceeding to count them as valid sectors.
Perhaps you wanted to explicitly mark them as surface sectors, like this: http://slfft.allhyper.com/0.95/award...HR-BKK-SIN-SYD
Does that give you the answer you're expecting? If not, can you help me understand the problem better?
Thanks - my mistake. Fixed now
Martin
Jul 8, 2007, 3:11 am
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SLF there is an error in the calculations when selecting AA as the Earning Preference.
The econ column does not include the PLT/EXP earning bonus and only shows base miles where the Biz and First do include this bonus.
Also a request. Could you add another column to the AA results table that shows base miles * 1.5 that would be the EQM for the flights on an AONEx DONEx please?
The econ column does not include the PLT/EXP earning bonus and only shows base miles where the Biz and First do include this bonus.
Also a request. Could you add another column to the AA results table that shows base miles * 1.5 that would be the EQM for the flights on an AONEx DONEx please?
Last edited by Moomba; Jul 8, 2007 at 2:39 pm
Jul 8, 2007, 4:53 am
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Jul 8, 2007, 6:28 am
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EQM on LONE* vary too much between 0 and 1 EQM per flown mile dependant on the carrier so it would be impossible to show. If the flights do earn EQM then it would be 1 EQM per miles which is the base miles calculation so would be superfluous.
EQM are earned on all OW flights (except those carriers where discount Y doesn't qualify e.g. CX L earns no EQM on AA. ). In Biz o F I believe all flights qualify for 1.5 EQM regardless of carrier hence the request.
EQM are earned on all OW flights (except those carriers where discount Y doesn't qualify e.g. CX L earns no EQM on AA. ). In Biz o F I believe all flights qualify for 1.5 EQM regardless of carrier hence the request.
Jul 8, 2007, 10:43 am
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EQM on LONE* vary too much between 0 and 1 EQM per flown mile dependant on the carrier so it would be impossible to show. If the flights do earn EQM then it would be 1 EQM per miles which is the base miles calculation so would be superfluous.
EQM are earned on all OW flights (except those carriers where discount Y doesn't qualify e.g. CX L earns no EQM on AA. ). In Biz o F I believe all flights qualify for 1.5 EQM regardless of carrier hence the request.
EQM are earned on all OW flights (except those carriers where discount Y doesn't qualify e.g. CX L earns no EQM on AA. ). In Biz o F I believe all flights qualify for 1.5 EQM regardless of carrier hence the request.
Jul 8, 2007, 1:37 pm
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I did a table last year (with only the "old" OW members) that covered L class earn rates - in the FAQ sticky, post no. 7. I'll try to update it presently.
Re EQMs ... I've had a busy weekend, and a busy week ahead. Questions noted.
Jul 17, 2007, 6:33 pm
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First of all, the tool is fantastic, especially for those of us who are newbs at putting together a *ONE* itinerary.
Now, my questions:
1. Part of my intinerary includes the segment COS-MCO. The validator says there is no oneworld carrier between those airports, but in fact I fly COS-MCO on AA all the time (via DFW) and the oneworld interactive map shows it as a direct connection.
2. Another segment MM says is not covered by oneworld is SJU-UVF (San Juan, PR to St. Lucia) -- but the interactive map says otherwise. I just checked and AA has many daily flights (via MIA).
Am I overlooking something obvious? Do I need to list the cities I'm connecting through? If so, do those count toward my segments?
Thanks for any help.
Now, my questions:
1. Part of my intinerary includes the segment COS-MCO. The validator says there is no oneworld carrier between those airports, but in fact I fly COS-MCO on AA all the time (via DFW) and the oneworld interactive map shows it as a direct connection.
2. Another segment MM says is not covered by oneworld is SJU-UVF (San Juan, PR to St. Lucia) -- but the interactive map says otherwise. I just checked and AA has many daily flights (via MIA).
Am I overlooking something obvious? Do I need to list the cities I'm connecting through? If so, do those count toward my segments?
Thanks for any help.
Jul 17, 2007, 6:58 pm
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The tool looks for direct (single flight number) flights only, because that is the way segments are counted for the OWE fare. If you connect in MIA, for example, to a different flight number, that is a second segment that calls for a second coupon, so when using the tool you should list both flights separately.