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Originally Posted by WearyBizTrvlr
(Post 7517619)
The F indicator is a great idea, so many thanks for implementing it. :-: A number of routes seem to have incorrect data. Routes that have F but are not showing right now:
NRT to SIN, SFO, FRA, CDG, GRU. HKG to SYD, MEL, JNB (depending on how you want to treat seasonal flights) LHR to CAI, TLV, EWR(?), PHL, MCT, GCM,. Those are the ones that stood out to me, but I'm sure I've missed a few. The next request is to have an option for the OWE planner only to show flights with F. :) Filtering added to the OWE planner.
Originally Posted by medicus
(Post 7517666)
?Small glitch. I'm doing a xONE4 and part of it is DFW-SNA-ORD. These are 1205 & 1726 miles respectively according to Great Circle Mapper, but come up on the mileage monkey as 715 & 124 miles respectively. Am I doing something wrong or is there a glitch.
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LHR to CAI, TLV, EWR(?), PHL, MCT, GCM,[QUOTE] EWR has F on all 777 operated services. GCM on the other hand is all 767 and has Y, W & J only. |
Originally Posted by sdorling
(Post 7518030)
GCM on the other hand is all 767 and has Y, W & J only.
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Could you check the coordinates for Manila, Philippines? I get 3331 miles from the validator and 3895 from the QF website.
It's a great tool - keep up the good work! |
Originally Posted by SLF
(Post 7517582)
NP. Thanks are also due again to hauteboy for the updated flight DB :) :-:
Done, also IGR-AEP. A request: for any future route additions, if known please can you advise which cabins are available; e.g. fjy, fy, jy, y etc. The F/J/Y indicator is trickier; my scanner attempts to determine which classes are available depending on aircraft type. Eg. with BA and QF which operate the same aircraft but F/J depends on route. |
Originally Posted by piperlance
(Post 7523402)
Could you check the coordinates for Manila, Philippines? I get 3331 miles from the validator and 3895 from the QF website.
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Originally Posted by hauteboy
(Post 7523434)
Actually all Lan Argentina flights are missing not just IGR.. my old PDF scanner used to ignore XL/4M flights since they weren't valid. I'll update this.
I've moved the beta version into the main folder now. If for some reason you need 0.95010, it is accessible through the "other versions" link. |
0.95012 is in the beta area
Beta version
Due to a challenge ... there is now a new beta version. Comments / testing welcome :)
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{sorry - read the thread in the wrong order - moved to discussion in other thread}
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Originally Posted by SLF
(Post 7578503)
...[*]Added rule; if two entries to Asia or N.America occur, check that one is a transit (no intra-continent sectors)...
If the airlines consider it ok, why should we insist it is not? |
Originally Posted by Viajero
(Post 7581941)
This restriction is too strict. AA will allow a transit of more than one stop. Likewise, a transit involving more than one stop in Asia is equally possible.
If the airlines consider it ok, why should we insist it is not? |
Another issue; mel-akl-lax-jfk-lhr-hkg-mel-per-mel validates as OK.
Since AUG '05 MEL-PER can now only be done once - it is now included in the Oz Transcon limitation: i.e. PER-MEL/SYD/BNE-CNS. Specifically: Code:
J/WITHIN AUSTRALIA |
Originally Posted by serfty
(Post 7587610)
Another issue; mel-akl-lax-jfk-lhr-hkg-mel-per-mel validates as OK.
Now working (or not ;)) again: http://slfft.allhyper.com/beta/award...KG-MEL-PER-MEL Also, if it doesn't have a flight in it's database, instead of terminating the check it will now just highlight that segment as a problem, and carry on (so it's assuming it's database is wrong). Example: http://slfft.allhyper.com/beta/award...AX-HKG-LHR-MIA |
Whenever the validator returns a warning (such as using MIA-ANC) the nifty chart at the bottom of the page with a segment/distance/points/class summary doesn't display.
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Originally Posted by vxmike
(Post 7593747)
Whenever the validator returns a warning (such as using MIA-ANC) the nifty chart at the bottom of the page with a segment/distance/points/class summary doesn't display.
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Guam is coming up with continent of SWP in the validator. According to IATA, Guam is in Asia.
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
(Post 7882785)
Guam is coming up with continent of SWP in the validator. According to IATA, Guam is in Asia.
My guess (subject to being advised otherwise :)) is that OW treats GUM as being in SWP, regardless of where IATA thinks it is :) |
Originally Posted by SLF
(Post 7882887)
My guess (subject to being advised otherwise :)) is that OW treats GUM as being in SWP, regardless of where IATA thinks it is :)
If it really is SWP then that forces a surface segment (like PPT) :( |
Is it possible for the validator to allow for purchased extra segments?
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The rules have changed
The rules have changed (for the worse). The Explorer rule sheet (file 3015owrulev38_pm mark ups.pdf) on the OneWorld site was updated 30 Jun 06.
From 3015owrulev38 “A minimum of 3 and a maximum of 20 segments, including surface segments, are permitted for the entire journey.” The including surface segments is new :td: A thread about this change is here |
0.95013 is in beta
Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
(Post 7940208)
Is it possible for the validator to allow for purchased extra segments?
Beta version available for testing here. Please report any issues back to this thread.
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Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 7981238)
The rules have changed (for the worse). The Explorer rule sheet (file 3015owrulev38_pm mark ups.pdf) on the OneWorld site was updated 30 Jun 06.
From 3015owrulev38 “A minimum of 3 and a maximum of 20 segments, including surface segments, are permitted for the entire journey.” The including surface segments is new :td: A thread about this change is here I've added a check-box to "ignore surface sectors", which should be used on tickets issued pre-July 2007. This itinerary uses 5 or 7 coupons, depending on which rules are applied. I wonder if now that we're forced to use a coupon for a surface sector, whether we can claim f/f miles? :) |
Thanks
Originally Posted by SLF
(Post 7982045)
Thanks. That's now included too in the beta
Will we ever get past beta ;) Rules changing too much |
Interesting comment on post 26 of the other thread. Open to interpretation ???
So it sounds like surface segments do not count against the continent limits, only against the total 20? The key phrase being "free flight segments". |
The most current version of MileageMonkey can be found here.
Older & beta versions can be found here. Thanks for the tool, but I'm a bit stumped on the calcs used. syd-lax-las-atl-lga-jfk-lhr-bkk-sin-syd comes up with the correct sector status credits, but the total, 1260, is out by 170 SCs Am I doing something wrong here? |
Originally Posted by emmell
(Post 8000819)
syd-lax-las-atl-lga-jfk-lhr-bkk-sin-syd comes up with the correct sector status credits, but the total, 1260, is out by 170 SCs
Am I doing something wrong here? 3: LAS-ATL: 2nd of 6 (North America) Error!!! No oneworld service exists LAS-ATL 5: LGA-JFK: 4th of 6 (North America) Error!!! No oneworld service exists LGA-JFK Perhaps you wanted to explicitly mark them as surface sectors, like this: http://slfft.allhyper.com/0.95/award...HR-BKK-SIN-SYD Does that give you the answer you're expecting? If not, can you help me understand the problem better? |
Tried MEL-AKL-SCL-GIG-GRU-LIM-EZE-LHR-DXB-LHR-KEF-LHR-SIN-NRT-DEL-NRT-HKG-PER-MEL-CNS-MEL
in v0.95012 get link 10: LHR-KEF: 3rd of 4 (Europe) but lists all 20 segmentsError!!! No oneworld service exists LHR-KEF 11: KEF-LHR: 4th of 4 (Europe) Error!!! No oneworld service exists KEF-LHR In http://slfft.allhyper.com/beta/award.htm link 10: LHR-KEF: 3rd of 4 (Europe) even after ticking "Ignore errors (for expert users!)"Error!!! No oneworld service exists LHR-KEF Seems to stall after 1st error LHR-KEF-LHR is in BA's shedule, but not sure if its seasonable or to be dropped along with the other BA routes |
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 8001535)
LHR-KEF-LHR is in BA's shedule, but not sure if its seasonable or to be dropped along with the BA routes
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Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 8001535)
link
10: LHR-KEF: 3rd of 4 (Europe) even after ticking "Ignore errors (for expert users!)"Error!!! No oneworld service exists LHR-KEF Seems to stall after 1st error
Originally Posted by Cyba
(Post 8001549)
BA flies to Reykjavik from LGW, not LHR. That's probably the problem.
Edit: the reported problem should be fixed now in the beta version |
I've moved 0.95013 out of beta to the main page. If you need an older version, choose it from here. Any bookmarks you have which reference the "beta" version should automatically redirect to the main version. If you don't see 0.95013, try forcing your browser to refresh fully (shift-refresh on Firefox).
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SLF, you are doing a lot of good, timely, work to keep this tool up to date and useful. I just wanted to say thank you.
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Originally Posted by Viajero
(Post 8003710)
SLF, you are doing a lot of good, timely, work to keep this tool up to date and useful. I just wanted to say thank you.
SLF I would like to add my thanks too for all the effort you have gone to in not only resurrecting this tool, but making some great improvements and keeping it up to date. :-: |
Thanks SLF from me too ^^^
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Add another to the chorus of thanks. ^
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I am trying to validate the following:
SYD-HKG-SIN-BKK,SGN-NRT-SVO-BUD,SOF-LON-CAS,RAK-BCN-BUE-LIM-LPB-SCL-SYD And I get an error on: 12: RAK-BCN: 4th of 4 (Europe) Rule violated!!!! [RAK-BCN] Max 1 segment(s): Ghana/Nigeria/Kenya/Uganda/Tanzania transit (second EUR entry?) Is this actually a valid itinerary? The oneworld tool doesnt have a problem with it and I can't see a problem in the rules. |
Originally Posted by Rhys1
... Is this actually a valid itinerary? The oneworld tool doesnt have a problem with it and I can't see a problem in the rules.
<never mind> |
Welcome to Flyer Talk Rhys1 :)
Morocco is treated as part of Europe according to xONEx rules, and so allowed on that basis. Perhaps the surface segment (within Morocco) is confusing the validator? |
Originally Posted by serfty
(Post 8004981)
Hi Rhys1, welcome to FT.
The problem is where you are going Europe-Africa-Europe-S/A. You can only do this if the second Europe is a transit without stopover travelling from Ghana, Nigeria, Kenya, Uganda or Tanzania - Marrakesh is in Morocco.
Originally Posted by xONEx rules effective 15 May 2007
Continents are defined as:
Europe Middle East (including Algeria , Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt, Sudan) |
Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
(Post 8004983)
Welcome to Flyer Talk Rhys1 :)
Morocco is treated as part of Europe according to xONEx rules, and so allowed on that basis. Perhaps the surface segment (within Morocco) is confusing the validator? I have tried without the surface sector and still get the error. |
Originally Posted by Rhys1
(Post 8004902)
I am trying to validate the following:
SYD-HKG-SIN-BKK,SGN-NRT-SVO-BUD,SOF-LON-CAS,RAK-BCN-BUE-LIM-LPB-SCL-SYD And I get an error on: 12: RAK-BCN: 4th of 4 (Europe) Rule violated!!!! [RAK-BCN] Max 1 segment(s): Ghana/Nigeria/Kenya/Uganda/Tanzania transit (second EUR entry?) Another welcome to FT :) And thanks for noticing that bug :) |
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