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SLF Jun 1, 2008 12:31 pm


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 9799239)
From post 3 in this thread. MM fails YUL-UVF
I could not find it a very quick check on www.aa.com with a few random dates. Others hopefully can do a better search. Only seems to be as YUL-JFK-UVF or YUL-MIA-UVF. Poster may not being giving us all the information.

Edit: Now think MM is correct. Route given by poster was not correct imho
Edit 2: The thread linked in post 12 states YUL-UVF exists as single flight (seasonable)

YUL-UVF added, thanks (looks like a winter service).

teddyflyer Jun 3, 2008 5:12 am


Originally Posted by SLF (Post 9808958)
YUL-UVF added, thanks (looks like a winter service).

According to AA this will be a daily service from 3 September 2008. It is not seasonal.

skunker Jun 4, 2008 10:49 am

Mileage differences
 
While playing around with the longest routing possible, I noticed that Mileage Monkey and Great Circle Mapper return different distances.

For example:
http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=m...avy&MAP-STYLE=
http://slfft.allhyper.com/0.95/award...HR-MCT-LHR-DAR

This could be a problem for people trying to maximize Qantas SC's.

SLF Jun 4, 2008 11:33 am


Originally Posted by skunker (Post 9825815)
While playing around with the longest routing possible, I noticed that Mileage Monkey and Great Circle Mapper return different distances.

For example:
http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=m...avy&MAP-STYLE=
http://slfft.allhyper.com/0.95/award...HR-MCT-LHR-DAR

This could be a problem for people trying to maximize Qantas SC's.

And the way that each airline calculates the distances is likely to be different again ;).

MM has it's own database for this, and doesn't use KLS2, so I hope that explains the difference.

If you note any specific issues with MM, please post in this thread and I will correct them.

mainly tailfirst Jun 4, 2008 11:51 pm


Originally Posted by satprof (Post 9747891)
The KA152/CX6710 HKG-BLR starts (according to Amadeus timetable) on July 1st & ends on Oct 25th. No First Class on this route as far as I can see (in KVS).

Hmm, someone needs to tell the CX website then. I just tried a trial booking for CX6710 for Nov 11 and it happily shows me flights, but won't let me book them for November.
<OT> If they've canned the route, I'll be annoyed, as it was my leverage to get around our *A preferred policy. Being able to do SFO-BLR with just the one stop was great, plus it made a DONE3 easier to justify.

mt

SLF Jun 9, 2008 5:55 am

0.95019 is now available
 
Latest (0.95019 at time of writing)
  • Added link to fare estimate, based on origin country
  • Removed "Ignore surface sectors" option, as that was for pre-June 2007 tickets only (if anyone still needs this, use 0.95018)
  • Added option for pre-1 June 2008 tickets (20 sectors permitted), 16 sector maximum now

Older versions (in case of problem) available here.

skunker Jun 13, 2008 11:14 am

I think these segments are wrong.

5718 6433 7148 2859 BCN-ABC
5718 6433 7148 2859 BCN-LEN

Thanks SLF, keep up the great work!

SLF Jun 17, 2008 5:59 am


Originally Posted by skunker (Post 9874546)
I think these segments are wrong.

5718 6433 7148 2859 BCN-ABC
5718 6433 7148 2859 BCN-LEN

Thanks SLF, keep up the great work!

In what way are they wrong? Both are currently in MM, but I'm not sure that BCN-ABC should be (it's operated by Denim Air which isn't listed in the valid affiliate airlines).

skunker Jun 17, 2008 10:35 pm


Originally Posted by SLF (Post 9892241)
In what way are they wrong? Both are currently in MM, but I'm not sure that BCN-ABC should be (it's operated by Denim Air which isn't listed in the valid affiliate airlines).

That's the problem. I don't think ABC is a valid airport. Try it in Great Circle. http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gclookup?...PEED-UNITS=kts
And BCN-LEN is not 2859 miles, its only 408. http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=B...avy&MAP-STYLE=

I was a little suspicious when I noticed that both legs have the exact same distance.

plane_mad Jun 18, 2008 9:46 am

Could you please add HKG-AMM (RJ) and HKG-PUS (KA) to the tool.

Thanks

SLF Jun 18, 2008 12:26 pm


Originally Posted by skunker (Post 9897329)
That's the problem. I don't think ABC is a valid airport. Try it in Great Circle. http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gclookup?...PEED-UNITS=kts
And BCN-LEN is not 2859 miles, its only 408. http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=B...avy&MAP-STYLE=

I was a little suspicious when I noticed that both legs have the exact same distance.

Thanks - I've correctly located both LEN & ABC, but I've disallowed BCN-ABC due to the fact it seems to be operated by Denim Air who aren't a OW affiliate.


Originally Posted by plane_mad (Post 9899423)
Could you please add HKG-AMM (RJ) and HKG-PUS (KA) to the tool.

Thanks

Done, thanks.

goback Jun 18, 2008 11:35 pm

I just noticed that LAX-SJO no longer comes up in the AA timetable for Jan 09.

Also there is a MIA-PHX service AA1007 and a return in the morning AA500. (also for Jan 09)

I hope this helps, thanks for the great tool.

Mwenenzi Jun 20, 2008 1:38 am

Another flight for the database: STL-SXM


Originally Posted by tt7 (Post 9909723)

Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer (Post 9909202)
There actually is a direct service STL-SXM (AA687) with a stop in MIA. So a very nice routing.

Good catch - thanks. I just relied on MileageMonkey to do a quick check of the validity, rather than actually checking flights.


Wasabi Tofu Jun 21, 2008 9:49 pm

As mentioned in another trehad http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=837074,

Some Dragonair flights are missed.
e.g. HKG-DAC, HKG-HKT, HKG-KMG, HKG-BKI, HKG-NKG, HKG-TAO, HKG-RMQ, ...

hauteboy Jul 2, 2008 10:59 am

I've rewritten the PDF schedule scraper, so hopefully SLF can get up the new schedule data soon.
This data is from the latest (July 4) oneworld PDF schedule.

Here's a list of the unlimited 'transcons' for North America:
Format is Departure,Country, Arrival, Country, Airline, #miles, Flight#,...,Qantas SC's earned

Code:

BGI,BB,BWI,US, 2088,AA1078,      ,      , 14:45,22:45  ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:40
BGI,BB,JFK,US, 2094,AA1384,      ,      , 15:45,20:45  ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:40
BGI,BB,JFK,US, 2094,AA1524,      ,      , 16:55,21:50  ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:40
BOS,US,BGI,BB, 2140,AA1089,      ,      , 05:45,13:35  ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:40
BOS,US,BGI,BB, 2140,AA 651,      ,      , 13:55,22:20  ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:40
BOS,US,PHX,US, 2297,AA1969,      ,      , 13:55,18:05  ,-------,  M80,      -:-:- SC:40
BOS,US,SLC,US, 2102,AA 327,      ,      , 10:10,15:35  ,-------,  M83,      -:-:- SC:40
CLT,US,SAN,US, 2074,AA1701,      ,      , 11:20,14:35  ,-------,  M83,      -:-:- SC:40
CUN,MX,LAX,US, 2119,AA1688,      ,      , 15:30,20:50  ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:40
DCA,US,LIR,CR, 2023,AA2127,      ,      , 07:15,11:35  ,-------,  738,      -:-:- SC:40
DFW,US,SJU,PR, 2166,AA2058,      ,      , 09:25,15:10  ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:40
DFW,US,SJU,PR, 2166,AA 606,      ,      , 13:10,18:55  ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:40
DFW,US,SJU,PR, 2166,AA 688,      ,      , 15:20,21:10  ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:40
DTW,US,PTY,PA, 2305,AA2101,      ,      , 14:15,21:55  ,-------,  738,      -:-:- SC:40
DTW,US,UVF,LC, 2382,AA2297,      ,      , 07:20,14:35  ,-------,  738,      -:-:- SC:40
EWR,US,ONT,US, 2406,AA1649,      ,      , 10:05,14:40  ,-------,  M83,      -:-:- SC:50
GUA,GT,SJC,US, 2487,AA2196,      ,      , 08:10,15:10  ,-------,  738,      -:-:- SC:50
JAX,US,BUR,US, 2146,AA1865,      ,      , 16:50,20:20  ,-------,  M80,      -:-:- SC:40
JFK,US,BGI,BB, 2094,AA1013,      ,      , 11:00,15:45  ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:40
JFK,US,BGI,BB, 2094,AA1385,      ,      , 09:30,14:30  ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:40
JFK,US,UVF,LC, 2016,AA2009,      ,      , 10:45,15:25  ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:40
LAX,US,SAL,SV, 2322,AA 797,      ,      , 23:30,05:15+1 ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:40
LAX,US,SJO,CR, 2726,AA2167,      ,      , 11:45,20:55  ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:50
LGA,US,PHX,US, 2146,AA 309,      ,      , 07:50,11:40  ,-------,  M80,      -:-:- SC:40
LGA,US,PHX,US, 2146,AA 707,      ,      , 07:40,11:30  ,-------,  M80,      -:-:- SC:40
LGA,US,PTY,PA, 2219,AA2189,      ,      , 07:30,13:20  ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:40
MEX,MX,YVR,CA, 2453,JL  11,      ,      , 10:15,13:30  ,-------,  744,      -:-:- SC:50
ONT,US,EWR,US, 2406,AA 558,      ,      , 06:05,16:25  ,-------,  M83,      -:-:- SC:50
ONT,US,JAX,US, 2103,AA1914,      ,      , 09:00,18:10  ,-------,  M80,      -:-:- SC:40
ORD,US,SJU,PR, 2076,AA2057,      ,      , 08:00,13:40  ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:40
ORD,US,SJU,PR, 2076,AA2073,      ,      , 13:55,19:40  ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:40
ORF,US,RNO,US, 2351,AA1309,      ,      , 06:20,10:35  ,-------,  M80,      -:-:- SC:40
PDX,US,BHM,US, 2062,AA1218,      ,      , 08:20,16:45  ,-------,  M83,      -:-:- SC:40
PDX,US,RIC,US, 2376,AA1286,      ,      , 12:10,22:30  ,-------,  M83,      -:-:- SC:40
PHX,US,LGA,US, 2146,AA 358,      ,      , 09:50,19:20  ,-------,  M80,      -:-:- SC:40
PHX,US,LGA,US, 2146,AA 762,      ,      , 13:35,23:20  ,-------,  M80,      -:-:- SC:40
PHX,US,ORF,US, 2026,AA 690,      ,      , 08:45,17:50  ,-------,  M80,      -:-:- SC:40
POS,TT,SFO,US, 4198,AA1662,      ,      , 09:05,17:10  ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:60
PUJ,DO,SFO,US, 3495,AA1830,      ,      , 15:35,22:45  ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:50
PVR,MX,IAD,US, 2078,AA 808,      ,      , 09:00,16:45  ,-------,  M80,      -:-:- SC:40
PVR,MX,IAD,US, 2078,AA 808,      ,      , 09:00,16:45  ,-------,  M80,      -:-:- SC:40
PVR,MX,IAD,US, 2078,AA 808,      ,      , 09:00,16:45  ,-------,  M80,      -:-:- SC:40
SAL,SV,LAX,US, 2322,AA 798,      ,      , 08:50,13:10  ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:40
SEA,US,YUL,CA, 2280,AA 802,      ,      , 06:00,17:15  ,-------,  738,      -:-:- SC:40
SJC,US,ORF,US, 2496,AA1140,      ,      , 13:50,00:05+1 ,-------,  M80,      -:-:- SC:50
SJD,MX,LGA,US, 2406,AA 732,      ,      , 08:10,17:40  ,-------,  M80,      -:-:- SC:50
SJO,CR,LAX,US, 2726,AA 972,      ,      , 14:20,23:20  ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:50
SJU,PR,DFW,US, 2166,AA1269,      ,      , 16:40,20:30  ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:40
SJU,PR,DFW,US, 2166,AA1549,      ,      , 09:40,13:25  ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:40
SJU,PR,DFW,US, 2166,AA 633,      ,      , 11:30,15:25  ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:40
SJU,PR,ORD,US, 2076,AA1863,      ,      , 15:00,19:00  ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:40
SJU,PR,ORD,US, 2076,AA2066,      ,      , 07:40,11:30  ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:40
SLC,US,BOS,US, 2102,AA 654,      ,      , 06:10,15:15  ,-------,  M83,      -:-:- SC:40
STL,US,SXM,GP, 2175,AA 687,      ,      , 06:10,14:25  ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:40
UVF,LC,JFK,US, 2016,AA2018,      ,      , 16:45,21:30  ,-------,  757,      -:-:- SC:40
YUL,CA,SAL,SV, 2390,AA 925,      ,      , 06:15,11:40  ,-------,  738,      -:-:- SC:40
YVR,CA,MEX,MX, 2453,JL  12,      ,      , 11:45,19:00  ,-------,  744,      -:-:- SC:50

and a list of the longhaul segments in Europe (>1800mi)
Code:

AMM,JO,AMS,NL, 2116,RJ 151,      ,      , 07:35,11:35  ,-------,  321,      -:-:- SC:40
AMM,JO,AMS,NL, 2116,RJ 151,      ,      , 11:30,15:30  ,-------,  320,      -:-:- SC:40
AMM,JO,BCN,ES, 1983,RJ 107,      ,      , 09:15,13:15  ,-------,  320,      -:-:- SC:40
AMM,JO,BCN,ES, 1983,RJ 107,      ,      , 09:45,13:45  ,-------,  320,      -:-:- SC:40
AMM,JO,CDG,FR, 2103,RJ 117,      ,      , 07:00,11:15  ,-------,  321,      -:-:- SC:40
AMM,JO,CDG,FR, 2103,RJ 117,      ,      , 11:45,16:00  ,-------,  321,      -:-:- SC:40
AMM,JO,FRA,DE, 1893,RJ 125,      ,      , 07:50,13:05  ,-------,  321,      -:-:- SC:40
AMM,JO,FRA,DE, 1893,RJ 125,      ,      , 09:35,13:20  ,-------,  320,      -:-:- SC:40
AMM,JO,FRA,DE, 1893,RJ 125,      ,      , 10:20,14:05  ,-------,  313,      -:-:- SC:40
AMM,JO,FRA,DE, 1893,RJ 125,      ,      , 10:25,14:10  ,-------,  321,      -:-:- SC:40
AMM,JO,GVA,CH, 1877,RJ 149,      ,      , 07:25,10:55  ,-------,  320,      -:-:- SC:40
AMM,JO,GVA,CH, 1877,RJ 149,      ,      , 11:15,16:05  ,-------,  320,      -:-:- SC:40
AMM,JO,MAD,ES, 2271,RJ 109,      ,      , 07:40,12:20  ,-------,  321,      -:-:- SC:40
AMM,JO,MAD,ES, 2271,RJ 109,      ,      , 11:00,15:40  ,-------,  320,      -:-:- SC:40
AMM,JO,MAD,ES, 2271,RJ5727,      ,      , 20:45,01:25+1 ,-------,  319,      -:-:- SC:40
AMM,JO,ZRH,CH, 1807,RJ 149,      ,      , 07:25,12:30  ,-------,  320,      -:-:- SC:40
AMM,JO,ZRH,CH, 1807,RJ 149,      ,      , 11:15,14:35  ,-------,  320,      -:-:- SC:40
AMM,JO,ZRH,CH, 1807,RJ5401,      ,      , 03:25,06:45  ,-------,  319,      -:-:- SC:40
AMS,NL,AMM,JO, 2116,RJ 152,      ,      , 12:35,18:20  ,-------,  321,      -:-:- SC:40
AMS,NL,AMM,JO, 2116,RJ 152,      ,      , 16:30,22:15  ,-------,  320,      -:-:- SC:40
AYT,TR,LGW,GB, 1808,BA2687,      ,      , 21:25,00:05+1 ,-------,  734,      -:-:- SC:40
AYT,TR,LGW,GB, 1808,BA2687,      ,      , 22:05,00:45+1 ,-------,  734,      -:-:- SC:40
AYT,TR,LGW,GB, 1808,BA2687,      ,      , 22:45,01:25+1 ,-------,  734,      -:-:- SC:40
BCN,ES,AMM,JO, 1983,RJ 108,      ,      , 14:10,19:35  ,-------,  320,      -:-:- SC:40
BCN,ES,AMM,JO, 1983,RJ 108,      ,      , 14:45,20:10  ,-------,  320,      -:-:- SC:40
BUD,HU,SVX,RU, 1845,MA 154,      ,      , 20:00,04:00+1 ,-------,  736,      -:-:- SC:40
BUD,HU,SVX,RU, 1845,MA 158,      ,      , 23:10,07:10+1 ,-------,  736,      -:-:- SC:40
CAI,EG,MAD,ES, 2084,IB3735,      ,      , 23:45,03:40+1 ,-------,  319,      -:-:- SC:40
CDG,FR,AMM,JO, 2103,RJ 118,      ,      , 12:15,17:35  ,-------,  321,      -:-:- SC:40
CDG,FR,AMM,JO, 2103,RJ 118,      ,      , 16:50,22:10  ,-------,  321,      -:-:- SC:40
DME,RU,MAD,ES, 2138,IB3809,      ,      , 07:25,10:35  ,-------,  319,      -:-:- SC:40
DME,RU,MAD,ES, 2138,IB3811,      ,      , 18:10,21:20  ,-------,  319,      -:-:- SC:40
FRA,DE,AMM,JO, 1893,RJ 125,      ,      , 14:10,19:35  ,-------,  321,      -:-:- SC:40
FRA,DE,AMM,JO, 1893,RJ 126,      ,      , 14:20,19:45  ,-------,  320,      -:-:- SC:40
FRA,DE,AMM,JO, 1893,RJ 126,      ,      , 15:05,20:30  ,-------,  320,      -:-:- SC:40
FRA,DE,AMM,JO, 1893,RJ 126,      ,      , 15:05,20:35  ,-------,  313,      -:-:- SC:40
FRA,DE,AMM,JO, 1893,RJ 126,      ,      , 15:10,20:35  ,-------,  321,      -:-:- SC:40
FRA,DE,AMM,JO, 1893,RJ 126,      ,      , 15:10,20:35  ,-------,  321,      -:-:- SC:40
FRA,DE,AMM,JO, 1893,RJ 126,      ,      , 15:10,22:20  ,-------,  321,      -:-:- SC:40
GVA,CH,AMM,JO, 1877,RJ 149,      ,      , 11:40,18:30  ,-------,  320,      -:-:- SC:40
GVA,CH,AMM,JO, 1877,RJ 149,      ,      , 16:50,21:50  ,-------,  320,      -:-:- SC:40
HEL,FI,LIS,PT, 2092,AY 921,      ,      , 16:45,19:30  ,-------,  320,      -:-:- SC:40
HEL,FI,MAD,ES, 1833,AY 891,      ,      , 17:00,20:25  ,-------,  321,      -:-:- SC:40
LED,RU,MAD,ES, 1970,IB3817,      ,      , 06:10,08:55  ,-------,  319,      -:-:- SC:40
LGW,GB,AYT,TR, 1808,BA2686,      ,      , 14:20,20:35  ,-------,  734,      -:-:- SC:40
LGW,GB,AYT,TR, 1808,BA2686,      ,      , 15:05,21:20  ,-------,  734,      -:-:- SC:40
LGW,GB,AYT,TR, 1808,BA2686,      ,      , 15:45,22:00  ,-------,  734,      -:-:- SC:40
LIS,PT,HEL,FI, 2092,AY 922,      ,      , 08:45,15:25  ,-------,  320,      -:-:- SC:40
MAD,ES,AMM,JO, 2271,RJ 110,      ,      , 13:10,19:05  ,-------,  321,      -:-:- SC:40
MAD,ES,AMM,JO, 2271,RJ 110,      ,      , 16:40,22:35  ,-------,  320,      -:-:- SC:40
MAD,ES,AMM,JO, 2271,RJ5728,      ,      , 02:25,08:20  ,-------,  319,      -:-:- SC:40
MAD,ES,CAI,EG, 2084,IB3734,      ,      , 16:50,22:30  ,-------,  319,      -:-:- SC:40
MAD,ES,DME,RU, 2138,IB3808,      ,      , 23:45,06:35+1 ,-------,  319,      -:-:- SC:40
MAD,ES,DME,RU, 2138,IB3810,      ,      , 10:30,17:20  ,-------,  319,      -:-:- SC:40
MAD,ES,HEL,FI, 1833,AY 892,      ,      , 10:10,15:35  ,-------,  321,      -:-:- SC:40
MAD,ES,LED,RU, 1970,IB3816,      ,      , 22:50,05:20+1 ,-------,  319,      -:-:- SC:40
MAD,ES,TLV,IL, 2203,IB3752,      ,      , 23:30,05:05+1 ,-------,  319,      -:-:- SC:40
MAD,ES,TLV,IL, 2203,IB3754,      ,      , 10:05,15:40  ,-------,  319,      -:-:- SC:40
SVX,RU,BUD,HU, 1845,MA 155,      ,      , 05:55,06:15  ,-------,  736,      -:-:- SC:40
SVX,RU,BUD,HU, 1845,MA 159,      ,      , 08:05,08:25  ,-------,  736,      -:-:- SC:40
TLV,IL,MAD,ES, 2203,IB3751,      ,      , 06:15,10:30  ,-------,  319,      -:-:- SC:40
TLV,IL,MAD,ES, 2203,IB3753,      ,      , 16:50,21:05  ,-------,  319,      -:-:- SC:40
TXL,DE,AMM,JO, 1836,RJ 126,      ,      , 17:10,22:20  ,-------,  321,      -:-:- SC:40
ZRH,CH,AMM,JO, 1807,RJ 149,      ,      , 13:30,18:30  ,-------,  320,      -:-:- SC:40
ZRH,CH,AMM,JO, 1807,RJ 149,      ,      , 15:20,21:50  ,-------,  320,      -:-:- SC:40
ZRH,CH,AMM,JO, 1807,RJ5402,      ,      , 07:30,12:30  ,-------,  319,      -:-:- SC:40



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