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skunker Jan 3, 2014 2:03 pm


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 22074060)
Are there currently AA codes on the QR US>DOH flights?
I've seen mention that there is, but haven't seen any trace of them in the oneworld timetable.
(with a JFK-DOH flight on a DONE3, I'd get 5027 points to QFF on the QR code. With an AA code, I'd get 15,081 points...)

Yes, the AA DOH-US codeshares have been around before QR joined oneworld and were the first ones they started.

http://airlineroute.net/2013/03/25/a...re-s13update2/

A1pax Jan 4, 2014 10:15 am

Thanks, serfty and Gardyloo, for the explanations.

So, we will not be able to see the RTW fares for various countries, as oneworld stops publishing them. How do people arbitrage to know which countries have the cheaper fares?

A relative wanted to do LONE4: SYD-LAX (s/o) - LON (s/o) - SGN (s/o) - SYD. I tried to price it in oneworld website and it said to contact QF!

I read in one of the posts here that it might be cheaper to start from AKL than from SYD. I would like to find out if this was correct. But, how?


Originally Posted by serfty (Post 22074293)
oneworld have decided not to publish such information.

You can try you own dummy bookings from various destinations using the online booking tool, or use a GDS based enquiry tools such as KVS or ExpertFlyer.



Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 22075128)
Several countries and the EU now require that airfare pricing be "transparent" with all applicable taxes and fees included in advertising. Since this is impossible with RTW tickets, as each itinerary will carry unique taxes and fees, Oneworld pulled the tables a couple of years ago.


jerry a. laska Jan 4, 2014 2:43 pm


Originally Posted by A1pax (Post 22082415)
Thanks, serfty and Gardyloo, for the explanations.

So, we will not be able to see the RTW fares for various countries, as oneworld stops publishing them. How do people arbitrage to know which countries have the cheaper fares?

A relative wanted to do LONE4: SYD-LAX (s/o) - LON (s/o) - SGN (s/o) - SYD. I tried to price it in oneworld website and it said to contact QF!

I read in one of the posts here that it might be cheaper to start from AKL than from SYD. I would like to find out if this was correct. But, how?

expertflyer.com

Himeno Jan 9, 2014 4:08 am


Originally Posted by skunker (Post 22077414)
Yes, the AA DOH-US codeshares have been around before QR joined oneworld and were the first ones they started.

http://airlineroute.net/2013/03/25/a...re-s13update2/

The AA codes are showing up on aa.com and expert flyer, but don't seem to appear on any of the oneworld timetables or booking tool. :confused:

Mwenenzi Jan 9, 2014 2:54 pm


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 22116593)
The AA codes are showing up on aa.com and expert flyer, but don't seem to appear on any of the oneworld timetables or booking tool. :confused:

See posts 610 to 614 above, Codeshares not showing on oneworld timetables or the booking tool is not unusal nor is it new. If you want to use a codeshare you need to hunt for it

Himeno Jan 9, 2014 3:45 pm


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 22120695)
See posts 610 to 614 above, Codeshares not showing on oneworld timetables or the booking tool is not unusal nor is it new. If you want to use a codeshare you need to hunt for it

I've seen, found and booked AA codes on QF, BA, IB, CX, JL and RJ before via the tool without any issues (as well as IB and QF codes on BA, MH and IB codes on AY, QF on JL and AA, etc).
Until these AA on QR codeshares, the only time I haven't been able to find a codeshare was when that code wasn't available for booking, and it was still listed in the timetable.

AA7970 – 7989 is the first time I have ever found a codeshare that doesn't appear on oneworld listings at all.

skunker Jan 10, 2014 9:13 am


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 22121112)
I've seen, found and booked AA codes on QF, BA, IB, CX, JL and RJ before via the tool without any issues (as well as IB and QF codes on BA, MH and IB codes on AY, QF on JL and AA, etc).
Until these AA on QR codeshares, the only time I haven't been able to find a codeshare was when that code wasn't available for booking, and it was still listed in the timetable.

AA7970 – 7989 is the first time I have ever found a codeshare that doesn't appear on oneworld listings at all.

Can't you book the QR code and then change to AA code after booking for free?

Himeno Jan 10, 2014 4:36 pm


Originally Posted by skunker (Post 22125891)
Can't you book the QR code and then change to AA code after booking for free?

That's likely what I'll have to end up doing (unless I can find an agent in Korea or Japan willing to charge/issue ticket online).

danger Jan 31, 2014 7:27 pm

I have a ticketed DONE3 that is about to be impacted by CX's cancellation of its JED (and AUH) flights.

The final sector of my itinerary is HKG-(xDXB)-JED. CX is discontinuing the DXB-JED segment from 30 March.

I'm really, really hoping they won't force me HKG-xKUL-JED on MH's vastly inferior J product.

Is the likely solution HKG-xAMM-JED? Or is there a better option out there?

anc305 Jan 31, 2014 10:56 pm

Price increase for RTW Explorer from CAI
 
Cairo is now showing

DONE3 41,900 EGP = @$6020
DONE4 44,000 EGP = @$6300
DONE5 50,200 EGP = @$7200

I am sure I saw it on EF last week about $800 cheaper ?

Himeno Feb 1, 2014 1:43 am


Originally Posted by danger (Post 22262576)
Is the likely solution HKG-xAMM-JED? Or is there a better option out there?

Maybe via DOH with QR.

danger Feb 1, 2014 5:38 am


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 22263712)
Maybe via DOH with QR.

I hadn't thought of that. I'll keep it in mind.

skunker Feb 1, 2014 4:25 pm


Originally Posted by danger (Post 22264178)
I hadn't thought of that. I'll keep it in mind.

But QR uses their 330 on that route which don't have lie-flat seats.

Of course there is a thread in the QR forum saying they are starting to put the 787 seats on the 330s.

danger Feb 2, 2014 5:42 am


Originally Posted by skunker (Post 22266996)
But QR uses their 330 on that route which don't have lie-flat seats.

Of course there is a thread in the QR forum saying they are starting to put the 787 seats on the 330s.

And I hadn't thought of that, either. I'm not flying until November so I have time to see what plays out. Ideally I'd like to stay on CX so hopefully the rejig of their Middle East network will offer some good options.

justin1123 Feb 2, 2014 5:25 pm

xONEx taxes with AA
 
Hoping someone can advise on the latest with AA taxes for xONEx tickets.

I have booked several of these in the past and found it very beneficial to book though AA to avoid higher taxes and fuel charges. I recall last year that this changed as AA started to collect surcharges on all carriers. This was quickly removed for award tickets, but does this still apply for rtw tickets?

It would be good to hear definitively on this! If they are, which is now the "best" carrier to try to ticket on in order to keep such charges down? Thanks.


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