About earning miles
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About earning miles
Hi guys~
I'm growing up owing to helps of flyer talks' people
but I also have a question that is about earning miles.
For example, CAI - MAD has two routes in Iberia
CAI - MAD is one route & CAI - BCN(VIA) - MAD is another..
If I book a flight the `CAI-BCN-MAD' IB6977 , Do I earn miles based CAI - MAD direct miles or two sector's miles CAI - BCN, BCN - MAD ?
Anyone who know about that explain to me some informations.
Have a nice day~
I'm growing up owing to helps of flyer talks' people
but I also have a question that is about earning miles.
For example, CAI - MAD has two routes in Iberia
CAI - MAD is one route & CAI - BCN(VIA) - MAD is another..
If I book a flight the `CAI-BCN-MAD' IB6977 , Do I earn miles based CAI - MAD direct miles or two sector's miles CAI - BCN, BCN - MAD ?
Anyone who know about that explain to me some informations.
Have a nice day~
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If you book the flight as CAI-MAD then you get the miles for the direct distance CAI-MAD but it only counts as one flight segment (out of the maximum 20 allowed) on your ticket.
If you book it as CAI-BCN-MAD then you get the miles for the two segments separately, but it counts as two segments towards your 20-segment limit. (And, of course, you may spend some time in Barcelona)
If you book it as CAI-BCN-MAD then you get the miles for the two segments separately, but it counts as two segments towards your 20-segment limit. (And, of course, you may spend some time in Barcelona)
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If you have one flight with one flight code (IB6977), you will get miles which equals the direct distance between your originating point to your final destination point. CAI-MAD will be approximately 2085 miles, even if the flight is CAI-BCN-MAD (2109 miles). If your flight is CAI-BCN you would get 1808 miles.
According to my own experience this will also apply if you have a change of plane but you continue with the same flight code. I had this experience once when flying from EZE to MEX on LAN Chile via SCL. There was an aircraft change in SCL, but flight code remained the same and I got miles for the direct distance between EZE and MEX.
Also in mileage based tickets (such as Global Explorer), miles are calculated according to direct distances.
According to my own experience this will also apply if you have a change of plane but you continue with the same flight code. I had this experience once when flying from EZE to MEX on LAN Chile via SCL. There was an aircraft change in SCL, but flight code remained the same and I got miles for the direct distance between EZE and MEX.
Also in mileage based tickets (such as Global Explorer), miles are calculated according to direct distances.
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This brings up an interesting question I have.
ON my current DONE4 my last two segments are LHR-MEL and MEL-SYD. I plan on doing them without stopping in MEL.
I have chosen QF 10 for LHR-MEL.
Now clearly I have a vast array of options fore MEL-SYD. But my current plan is to take QF10 MEL-SYD.
Given that I have two coupons for the separate segments, I don't fancy only gettins miles and SCs for LHR-SYD. Can I reasonably expect getting credit for two separate segments? Should I ensure I get separate BPs for LHR-MEL and MEL-SYD?
ON my current DONE4 my last two segments are LHR-MEL and MEL-SYD. I plan on doing them without stopping in MEL.
I have chosen QF 10 for LHR-MEL.
Now clearly I have a vast array of options fore MEL-SYD. But my current plan is to take QF10 MEL-SYD.
Given that I have two coupons for the separate segments, I don't fancy only gettins miles and SCs for LHR-SYD. Can I reasonably expect getting credit for two separate segments? Should I ensure I get separate BPs for LHR-MEL and MEL-SYD?
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Yes and Yes. But it might be a struggle. To be safe I might just delay 5 minutes and take the next flight (QF404) to Sydney.
Another advantage of having the ticket coupons open IMHO.
Another advantage of having the ticket coupons open IMHO.
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Originally Posted by christep
Yes and Yes. But it might be a struggle. To be safe I might just delay 5 minutes and take the next flight (QF404) to Sydney.
Another advantage of having the ticket coupons open IMHO.
Another advantage of having the ticket coupons open IMHO.
And having read many of your (and others') posts, I did get my coupons open dated....
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Fair enough. So I would just do as you say: get two boarding passes and insist on credit for each since you have effectively "paid" for two separate segments. From my limited experience of dealing qith Qantas though I fear you might be in for something of a battle.
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I think I may take another approach - stay in transit and catch QF 179 or QF 180 to SYD - in the meantime I can freshen up in the Int F lounge in MEL. Alas it won't be a 747 but for a 1hr flight that won't kill me.
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You don't have to go far for these issues - AA38 (SFO - DFW - ZRH) often means two aircraft, not even a change of gauge as they are noth 763's, but... you get SFO - ZRH miles. Returning as AA32 and 327, you get miles for both legs. QF does this if you fly LAX - AKL - BNE, which gets the same miles as their new LAX - BNE.
Same applies even if there's a "change of gauge" and you switch to different aircraft types, as I recall. Unless one takes a stopover, oc fourse.
Same applies even if there's a "change of gauge" and you switch to different aircraft types, as I recall. Unless one takes a stopover, oc fourse.
Originally Posted by JuPe
If you have one flight with one flight code (IB6977), you will get miles which equals the direct distance between your originating point to your final destination point. CAI-MAD will be approximately 2085 miles, even if the flight is CAI-BCN-MAD (2109 miles). If your flight is CAI-BCN you would get 1808 miles.
According to my own experience this will also apply if you have a change of plane but you continue with the same flight code. I had this experience once when flying from EZE to MEX on LAN Chile via SCL. There was an aircraft change in SCL, but flight code remained the same and I got miles for the direct distance between EZE and MEX.
Also in mileage based tickets (such as Global Explorer), miles are calculated according to direct distances.
According to my own experience this will also apply if you have a change of plane but you continue with the same flight code. I had this experience once when flying from EZE to MEX on LAN Chile via SCL. There was an aircraft change in SCL, but flight code remained the same and I got miles for the direct distance between EZE and MEX.
Also in mileage based tickets (such as Global Explorer), miles are calculated according to direct distances.
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Originally Posted by alect
This brings up an interesting question I have.
ON my current DONE4 my last two segments are LHR-MEL and MEL-SYD. I plan on doing them without stopping in MEL.
I have chosen QF 10 for LHR-MEL.
Now clearly I have a vast array of options fore MEL-SYD. But my current plan is to take QF10 MEL-SYD.
Given that I have two coupons for the separate segments, I don't fancy only gettins miles and SCs for LHR-SYD. Can I reasonably expect getting credit for two separate segments? Should I ensure I get separate BPs for LHR-MEL and MEL-SYD?
ON my current DONE4 my last two segments are LHR-MEL and MEL-SYD. I plan on doing them without stopping in MEL.
I have chosen QF 10 for LHR-MEL.
Now clearly I have a vast array of options fore MEL-SYD. But my current plan is to take QF10 MEL-SYD.
Given that I have two coupons for the separate segments, I don't fancy only gettins miles and SCs for LHR-SYD. Can I reasonably expect getting credit for two separate segments? Should I ensure I get separate BPs for LHR-MEL and MEL-SYD?
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Originally Posted by mikalee
If you have two coupons you will get two boarding passes and with QFF at least you wil get credits for LHR-MEL and MEL-SYD with the latter qualifying for the minimum points guarantee