First Class to Rio?
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First Class to Rio?
I want to fly first class from BOS to RIO. I am not a big fan of AA (unless something big has changed in the past 12months or so.
I think there used to be a JAL flight from JFK, but I do not see it.
Any great alternative flight options?
I think there used to be a JAL flight from JFK, but I do not see it.
Any great alternative flight options?
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Sounds like new UA's new F or even Polaris is a lot better than anything AA offers in F or C.
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If you're looking for a good business class experience, DL is reasonable if you can avoid the 767. (It's seasonal and the GRU routes tend to use larger aircraft types, which would require a GOL connection from GRU to GIG or the domestic airport closer to downtown.)
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In the near term if specific alliance isn't important to you then I'd probably be looking at AA or DL for something direct. I've also heard good things about AV but I don't think the BOG-GIG flight is a widebody and it's a fairly long flight.
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AA doesn't offer First Class anymore between NYC and Rio these days. All their 777-200s - which is what they use on this route in addition to the 767s - have been converted into a two-class configuration without F.
In order to get AA three-class F on the longhaul, you need to book on the 77W (the only AA aircraft retaining F). GRU is the only South American destination that gets a 77W - one daily each from DFW, JFK and MIA (flight numbers 963, 951, 995). This turns your trip into a two-stop itinerary BOS-JFK/DFW/MIA-GRU-RIO, with the intra-Brazilian flight likely on an economy-only narrowbody (Latam has one daily 767 flight with business class, though) and up-to-4.5-hour domestic feeder flights in 737s. Not very premium.
It's the same with UA, btw. No more F to Rio. Only Brazilian destination that still has GF is GRU.
The only oneworld option with F all the way would be taking BA via LHR.
I'd give up on F on that route and rather fly business via JFK. Given the choice between a Latam and AA 767, I'd prefer AA who at least offer all-aisle access and more privacy with their staggered 1-2-1 seating, whereas you'll have seatmates with Latams' 2-2-2 seating. Seats are equally narrow, though.
In order to get AA three-class F on the longhaul, you need to book on the 77W (the only AA aircraft retaining F). GRU is the only South American destination that gets a 77W - one daily each from DFW, JFK and MIA (flight numbers 963, 951, 995). This turns your trip into a two-stop itinerary BOS-JFK/DFW/MIA-GRU-RIO, with the intra-Brazilian flight likely on an economy-only narrowbody (Latam has one daily 767 flight with business class, though) and up-to-4.5-hour domestic feeder flights in 737s. Not very premium.
It's the same with UA, btw. No more F to Rio. Only Brazilian destination that still has GF is GRU.
The only oneworld option with F all the way would be taking BA via LHR.
I'd give up on F on that route and rather fly business via JFK. Given the choice between a Latam and AA 767, I'd prefer AA who at least offer all-aisle access and more privacy with their staggered 1-2-1 seating, whereas you'll have seatmates with Latams' 2-2-2 seating. Seats are equally narrow, though.
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AA doesn't offer First Class anymore between NYC and Rio these days. All their 777-200s - which is what they use on this route in addition to the 767s - have been converted into a two-class configuration without F.
In order to get AA three-class F on the longhaul, you need to book on the 77W (the only AA aircraft retaining F). GRU is the only South American destination that gets a 77W - one daily each from DFW, JFK and MIA (flight numbers 963, 951, 995). This turns your trip into a two-stop itinerary BOS-JFK/DFW/MIA-GRU-RIO, with the intra-Brazilian flight likely on an economy-only narrowbody (Latam has one daily 767 flight with business class, though) and up-to-4.5-hour domestic feeder flights in 737s. Not very premium.
It's the same with UA, btw. No more F to Rio. Only Brazilian destination that still has GF is GRU.
The only oneworld option with F all the way would be taking BA via LHR.
I'd give up on F on that route and rather fly business via JFK. Given the choice between a Latam and AA 767, I'd prefer AA who at least offer all-aisle access and more privacy with their staggered 1-2-1 seating, whereas you'll have seatmates with Latams' 2-2-2 seating. Seats are equally narrow, though.
In order to get AA three-class F on the longhaul, you need to book on the 77W (the only AA aircraft retaining F). GRU is the only South American destination that gets a 77W - one daily each from DFW, JFK and MIA (flight numbers 963, 951, 995). This turns your trip into a two-stop itinerary BOS-JFK/DFW/MIA-GRU-RIO, with the intra-Brazilian flight likely on an economy-only narrowbody (Latam has one daily 767 flight with business class, though) and up-to-4.5-hour domestic feeder flights in 737s. Not very premium.
It's the same with UA, btw. No more F to Rio. Only Brazilian destination that still has GF is GRU.
The only oneworld option with F all the way would be taking BA via LHR.
I'd give up on F on that route and rather fly business via JFK. Given the choice between a Latam and AA 767, I'd prefer AA who at least offer all-aisle access and more privacy with their staggered 1-2-1 seating, whereas you'll have seatmates with Latams' 2-2-2 seating. Seats are equally narrow, though.
This December, are UA's business class options any better from EWR vs. IAD or ORD?
I think AA's saver is 57,500 each way in business class...not sure abt UA...
LATAM's reviews look better in terms fo food and wine than AA. Laurent Perrier is certainly a better champagne, as one yardstick.
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OK, that's very helpful, so it looks like it's business class on either UA or AA. Isn't UA Polaris now a major step above AA business class with its bedding, food, and wine?
This December, are UA's business class options any better from EWR vs. IAD or ORD?
I think AA's saver is 57,500 each way in business class...not sure abt UA...
LATAM's reviews look better in terms fo food and wine than AA. Laurent Perrier is certainly a better champagne, as one yardstick.
This December, are UA's business class options any better from EWR vs. IAD or ORD?
I think AA's saver is 57,500 each way in business class...not sure abt UA...
LATAM's reviews look better in terms fo food and wine than AA. Laurent Perrier is certainly a better champagne, as one yardstick.
With UA routes, look for 767 flights, there are fewer seats across but it's otherwise the same badly outdated seat.
What about LATAM via SCL?


