Hi,
I planned the following DONEWC4
5 IB6977 D 31MAY 1 CAIMAD HK4 0125 0635
6 IB3524 D 31MAY 1 MADDUS HK4 1910 2140
7 BA 941 D 22JUL 4 DUSLHR HK4 1640 1705
8 BA 059 D 22JUL 4 LHRCPT HK4 1920 0800+1
9 BA6416 D 29JUL 4 CPTJNB HK4 1400 1600
10 QF 064 D 29JUL 4 JNBSYD HK4 1810 1350+1
11 QF 926 D 31JUL 6 SYDCNS HK4 1220 1520
12 QF1031 D 08AUG 7 CNSPER HK4 2230 0120+1
13 QF 580 D 09AUG 1 PERSYD HK4 1215 1820
14 BA 010 D 10AUG 2 SYDBKK HK4 1505 2130
15 CX 708 D 31AUG 2 BKKHKG HK4 0950 1345
16 CX 785 D 01SEP 3 HKGDPS HK4 1005 1445
17 CX 784 D 04SEP 6 DPSHKG HK4 1555 2045
18 BA 028 D 04SEP 6 HKGLHR HK4 2345 0545+1
19 BA 155 D 15OCT 5 LHRCAI HK4 1700 2250

The stupid CNS-PER-SYD I do only to get the 240 tier points ( 2 segments more than 2000 miles ) I am looking for an island Southsea ( but I only found Noumea , which is served by QF and this I dont want ! ) Are there no more islands served by oneworld ???

[This message has been edited by bertheike (edited Jan 13, 2004).]

If you think that CNS and PER are stupid destinations, then you may as well stay at home.

There is a couple of big ones off to the east that have more sheep than people. Otherwise, you have Tasmania and that's really about it. However, keep in mind that you only have one more free segment unless you are planning to replace the Cairns and Perth trip.

I do not think that CNS and PER are stupid destinations !!! And if you look my PNR you will see that I plane a stop in CNS for 1 week! But the flights CNS-PER-SYD within 24 h. are stupid! And my question was( to find some better flights like Nandi or Apia or Papete ! ) But as I see QF;BA;or AA are not flying there ! And the codeshares are not allowed I think. NOU or anything south of it is to cold for a beach-trip !

well,
as I already explained I want to stay a few days somewhere in the south sea ! But anywhere north of Noumea ( otherwise it is to cold for beach and swimming ! ) I can change my item to SYD-CNS-SYD and have 2 Segments available for anywhere in SWP

The most basic problem with this itinerary is that is not round the world. Bit obvious. You need to go to North America or South America for OWE

CAI-MAD-DUS-LHR-CPT-JNB-SYD-CNS-PER-SYD-BKK-HKG-DPS-HKG-LHR-CAI is only 15 segments. For someone who implied they want more miles not using the max of 20 segments is a sin.

From http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/dyn...eworldExplorer
Within Australia only one non stop flight is permitted between Perth and Brisbane, Cairns or Sydney; or between Darwin and Melbourne or Sydney. This restriction does not apply for passengers originating their travel in Perth or New Zealand when travelling to/from Africa on the Sydney-Perth direct flights.

Therefore you can do CNS-PER and PER-SYD

Other long distance routes in Aus
mel-bme 1929
syd-bme 2100
mel-per 1682
syd-per 2041
cbr-per 1942
cns-per 2133
mel-drw 1941
syd-drw 1957
mel-cns 1432
The new routes to BME and PER-CBR are not (yet) excluded by the rules
The flight that is �missing� is PER-AKL at 3323 miles. Air NZ fly on this route, but QF does not.

For a OWE you need QF metal or a code share on a OW carrier metal
Code share�s on another non OW carriers are not permitted with a OWE
http://www.qantas.com.au/content/dyn...rm_inter_flash
If you hold your mouse over the South Pacific islands you see very little �red lines� Most of these are not on QF metal,. so no opportunities for a long distance QF flight in the SWP region.
Noumea, is served by Air Caledonia as a QF codes share



[This message has been edited by Mwenenzi (edited Jan 13, 2004).]

It's a Circle Indian trip so the itinerary is fine. I only suggest that the question is asked a little more clearly to convey what is wanted (ie., somewhere warm). But the answer is no. Qantas used to fly to Port Moresby and Papeete, but they haven't done so for many years now. They stopped around when I did my first trip, maybe in 2000. Noumea is really the only option as far as I can remember. All the others are various codeshares that are valid in a global explorer but not a oneworld explorer or a circle explorer.

[This message has been edited by Darren (edited Jan 13, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by prudentbear (edited Jan 13, 2004).]

Anywhere in northern Queensland, Aust is warm during the intended time of travel

Does the circle India fare have the same restriction as a OWE or is like a Global explorers which allows many more code shares

Circle Pacfic is a different animal altogether like the Global Explorer. Both in rules, spirit, and carriers.

Circle Indian is almost identical to a Oneworld Explorer with two major exceptions.

1) you are not going around the world. There are many different continental routings, but suffice it to say they involve Europe, Africa, South West Pacfic, and Asia. They come in three or four continents and the price is the same as the OWE.

2) you are limited to two stopovers per continent

Usermark has the file on his website with the other Starfiles. It's not terribly exciting since the rules are pretty simple. To more specifically answer your question, the codesharing allowance is like the OWE not the GlobEx.

The 2 stop overs is a harsh restriction
Why not buy a DONE5 (extra $ for the 5th continent) but you get 20 segments and without the stop over restriction


[This message has been edited by Mwenenzi (edited Jan 13, 2004).]

Mostly because it's extra money for the fifth continent. A not so insignificant amount in many cases. Remember that we are starting these from funky places and are willing to come up with wholly obnoxious routings for a number of different reasons. Some, for miles. Others, to travel to 30 different places on a long ticket. But most people who just want to leave for three weeks or a month to do some traveling are not going to want to bother leaving from Timbuktu to save a few bucks or routing 6000 miles out of their way to reach top tier. If someone wants to visit a limited number of places in Asia and Australia, there is no reason for them to pay for an extra continent. Especially if they have little use for other benefits from it like airline status.

In my case, ( i live in Germany ), I want to visit for one week my friend in Capetown and I want to be around 3 weeks in Thailand.
All together I have 6 1/2 weeks time and want the long haul flights if possible a flat bed ! ( like BA LON-CPT , SYD-BKK , HKG-LON ). The 2. thing is the fare on IBERIA ticket stock is 17.990 EGP what is crossrated about 2300 Euro + taxes. There is no cheaper way to get just one of these places with an other ticket in business ! The 3. thing is to get the maximum output with this tickets on milage and tier points!
( it�s possible to get up to 1500 BA tier points and about 65000 miles each of us in our houshold account ) 100k is a free Southafrica business ticket with BA ! + having top tier and 2000 tier points reached each of us get an upgrade for 2 people rt. on BA/QF !
I would say all in all an interesting thing!