Mileage accumulation limit on a RTW ticket.
May 31, 2001 | 1:19 pm
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Mileage accumulation limit on a RTW ticket.
Is there a limit on how many miles you can pick up on a RTW itinerary.
If not, what is the average number of miles some flyertalker's have picked up.
If not, what is the average number of miles some flyertalker's have picked up.
May 31, 2001 | 2:52 pm
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There is a mileage-based oneworld Global Explorer RTW fare, this one doesn't seem to be very well known. The more popular oneworld Explorer RTW fare goes by zones (continents) visited and is not mileage limited, but its fare rules instead are restricted by number of segments and/or stopovers.
Info on the Explorer RTW is available in the archives in this forum and on my Unofficial oneworld Info Desk website.
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Info on the Explorer RTW is available in the archives in this forum and on my Unofficial oneworld Info Desk website.
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May 31, 2001 | 11:31 pm
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Bourne, If you are talking about the segment limited RTW fare (as opposed to mileage limited one) there is NO limit on mileage. In fact, if you had your ticket under the old rules, you could buy unlimited additional segments and have very high miles (could even go up to millions though they may balk at it as an abuse of rules).
Under the current rules, you are limited to a max of 8 segments in NA and 6 in other continents. There are limits on long segments (only one NA transcon non-stop or direct and only 2 to MiddleEast and select long haul destination in Europe, no backtracknig from Hawaii, etc.).
I have calculated over 50,000 base miles (and multiply it by your status/class of service bonuses) on many simple 3 continent trips using free segments. You can add another 25K to 50K based on additional continents/segments or using complicated runs.
Under the current rules, you are limited to a max of 8 segments in NA and 6 in other continents. There are limits on long segments (only one NA transcon non-stop or direct and only 2 to MiddleEast and select long haul destination in Europe, no backtracknig from Hawaii, etc.).
I have calculated over 50,000 base miles (and multiply it by your status/class of service bonuses) on many simple 3 continent trips using free segments. You can add another 25K to 50K based on additional continents/segments or using complicated runs.
Jun 1, 2001 | 2:06 am
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HKG, you get 28500 miles, and a min of 7 days. Realistically, the prices were not a whole lot lower than the OWE. I don't think there were the same segment restrictions, but I don't remember. Let me put it this way. I spoke to them this morning, and I don't remember. Both it and the Circle Pacific just struck me as not-so-good options. Just an opinion.
Jun 1, 2001 | 2:52 am
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Originally posted by clouds2cloud:
Under the current rules, you are limited to a max of 8 segments in NA and 6 in other continents. There are limits on long segments (only one NA transcon non-stop or direct and only 2 to MiddleEast and select long haul destination in Europe, no backtracknig from Hawaii, etc.).
Under the current rules, you are limited to a max of 8 segments in NA and 6 in other continents. There are limits on long segments (only one NA transcon non-stop or direct and only 2 to MiddleEast and select long haul destination in Europe, no backtracknig from Hawaii, etc.).
Terence
Jun 1, 2001 | 8:26 am
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This question is for all the people who have used a RTW ticket or are about to use one.
Do you use it for going "round the world" or is it for the miles and status.
Though these fares do not exist anymore, $2900 would have given you a 3 Continent ticket from US.
A 50K - 75K base mile accumulation is the average for this kind of trip. For the same time period, following are the fares I have seen from the east coast.
~ 250 European Destinations = 10K Base miles
~ 500 HKG, SIN = 15K Base miles
Taking the higher limit,
75K = 10K x 8 = $250 x 8 = $2000
75K = 15K x 5 = $500 x 5 = $2500
Would you not have a cheaper alternative with more flexibility if you did it like this. Or am I missing something here.
P.S. The closest bang to buck ratio comes with drbala's Indian option ~Rs 88,000 = ~$1750 after commision rebate. But then again, you have to go to India to do it, +$ 1250. Ends up being the same thing.
Do you use it for going "round the world" or is it for the miles and status.
Though these fares do not exist anymore, $2900 would have given you a 3 Continent ticket from US.
A 50K - 75K base mile accumulation is the average for this kind of trip. For the same time period, following are the fares I have seen from the east coast.
~ 250 European Destinations = 10K Base miles
~ 500 HKG, SIN = 15K Base miles
Taking the higher limit,
75K = 10K x 8 = $250 x 8 = $2000
75K = 15K x 5 = $500 x 5 = $2500
Would you not have a cheaper alternative with more flexibility if you did it like this. Or am I missing something here.
P.S. The closest bang to buck ratio comes with drbala's Indian option ~Rs 88,000 = ~$1750 after commision rebate. But then again, you have to go to India to do it, +$ 1250. Ends up being the same thing.
Jun 1, 2001 | 10:47 am
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Originally posted by Bourne:
This question is for all the people who have used a RTW ticket or are about to use one.
Do you use it for going "round the world" or is it for the miles and status.
This question is for all the people who have used a RTW ticket or are about to use one.
Do you use it for going "round the world" or is it for the miles and status.
I did a OWE RTW this spring, finally doing something I'd wanted to do for years and years.
I actually found Flyertalk when reseraching the RTW, and used the info here to maximize miles & status within the constraints of the time I had available and the places I wanted to visit.
Jun 2, 2001 | 1:37 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by Bourne:
This question is for all the people who have used a RTW ticket or are about to use one.
Do you use it for going "round the world" or is it for the miles and status.
Though these fares do not exist anymore, $2900 would have given you a 3 Continent ticket from US.
A 50K - 75K base mile accumulation is the average for this kind of trip. For the same time period, following are the fares I have seen from the east coast.
~ 250 European Destinations = 10K Base miles
~ 500 HKG, SIN = 15K Base miles
Taking the higher limit,
75K = 10K x 8 = $250 x 8 = $2000
75K = 15K x 5 = $500 x 5 = $2500
Would you not have a cheaper alternative with more flexibility if you did it like this. Or am I missing something here.
P.S. The closest bang to buck ratio comes with drbala's Indian option ~Rs 88,000 = ~$1750 after commision rebate. But then again, you have to go to India to do it, +$ 1250. Ends up being the same thing.
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This question is for all the people who have used a RTW ticket or are about to use one.
Do you use it for going "round the world" or is it for the miles and status.
Though these fares do not exist anymore, $2900 would have given you a 3 Continent ticket from US.
A 50K - 75K base mile accumulation is the average for this kind of trip. For the same time period, following are the fares I have seen from the east coast.
~ 250 European Destinations = 10K Base miles
~ 500 HKG, SIN = 15K Base miles
Taking the higher limit,
75K = 10K x 8 = $250 x 8 = $2000
75K = 15K x 5 = $500 x 5 = $2500
Would you not have a cheaper alternative with more flexibility if you did it like this. Or am I missing something here.
P.S. The closest bang to buck ratio comes with drbala's Indian option ~Rs 88,000 = ~$1750 after commision rebate. But then again, you have to go to India to do it, +$ 1250. Ends up being the same thing.
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Jun 3, 2001 | 1:47 am
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tfung and Darren,
The max segs in NA under current rules is 8. However you get 6 free and can purchase an additional 2. Under the old rules, you could get unlimited segments as long as you purchased them after you finished your free segs or free stopovers.
The max segs in NA under current rules is 8. However you get 6 free and can purchase an additional 2. Under the old rules, you could get unlimited segments as long as you purchased them after you finished your free segs or free stopovers.
Jun 3, 2001 | 1:51 am
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tfung is right about Biz and First leverage with RTW. With Biz you can still fly A (First) in North America and accrue appropriate base points. With First you get to travel luxiriously and still collect enough miles/points so that the net cost to you (after a simplistic 2c per mile calculation) is not much more than what millions of others pay for much more restricted coach travel. Of course, there are limits on flexibility and inventory control for fare basis, etc.
Most of my RTW travel is leverage on top of required travel. I usually need to touch most of the points for business or pleasure and I add a few segments/stopovers and travel more comfortabley albeit more circuitously.
Most of my RTW travel is leverage on top of required travel. I usually need to touch most of the points for business or pleasure and I add a few segments/stopovers and travel more comfortabley albeit more circuitously.
Jun 6, 2001 | 1:20 am
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Stupid question time:
How does this work?
I'm missing this completely: the RTW ticket allows you a different class of ticket vs the notional, direct travel?
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by clouds2cloud:
With Biz you can still fly A (First) in North America and accrue appropriate base points.
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With Biz you can still fly A (First) in North America and accrue appropriate base points.
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Most of my RTW travel is leverage on top of required travel. I usually need to touch most of the points for business or pleasure and I add a few segments/stopovers and travel more comfortabley albeit more circuitously.</font>
Most of my RTW travel is leverage on top of required travel. I usually need to touch most of the points for business or pleasure and I add a few segments/stopovers and travel more comfortabley albeit more circuitously.</font>