Future of Oneworld
Aug 16, 2000 | 5:51 am
#1
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Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Boston,MA,USA and GVA
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Future of Oneworld
I was just wondering what everyone thought of the following possibility if BA/KL goes through.
In such a case wouldnt BA and airlines such as Qantas, Iberia, etc go to Wings with BA/KL
Now that leaves AA,CX,JAL, FY. If u look long enough at those airlines one realizes that all but Finnair and Lanchile have codeshares with Qualiflyer. and the 2 that dont would fit in better in Oualiflyer than in Wings. So Oneworld will soon die if BA/KL merge. Its only hope for survial is if the Wings group keeps the Oneworld name. Qauliflyer wont switch because it is the name of FF program
In such a case wouldnt BA and airlines such as Qantas, Iberia, etc go to Wings with BA/KL
Now that leaves AA,CX,JAL, FY. If u look long enough at those airlines one realizes that all but Finnair and Lanchile have codeshares with Qualiflyer. and the 2 that dont would fit in better in Oualiflyer than in Wings. So Oneworld will soon die if BA/KL merge. Its only hope for survial is if the Wings group keeps the Oneworld name. Qauliflyer wont switch because it is the name of FF program
Aug 16, 2000 | 9:03 am
#2
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Jersey City
Posts: 1,321
why would anyone go to wings at this point? what, if anything, have you heard about this alliance in the last few months? do you really think ba would like to start the wheels in motion of launching another new alliance? much less, spend the expense in advertising, retraining, reprinting all materials, etc??? besides, co and kl have been having major issues for a long time about this, and if they had been resolved, i'm sure they would have been pumping this alliance up bigtime, even with kl money woes.
i think the odds are that if ba/kl goes through, aa pushes harder to buy nw, or at least nw attempts to join 1w. i can not envision really more than three of the worldwide alliances. everyone is going to scatter to join up if dl can really get this skyteam thing up and running with a decent amount of carriers.
i think the odds are that if ba/kl goes through, aa pushes harder to buy nw, or at least nw attempts to join 1w. i can not envision really more than three of the worldwide alliances. everyone is going to scatter to join up if dl can really get this skyteam thing up and running with a decent amount of carriers.
Aug 16, 2000 | 11:12 am
#3
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
Posts: 3,373
This alliance is not defined by its American anchor. BA is probably a significantly stronger force in OW than AA.
BA can pretty much take QF and IB with it wherever it goes, and because of Eddington's deep connections at CX, he can probably bring them along, too.
The upshot of which is that if BA/KL comes to pass, then KL will almost certainly be brought into OW. If any realignment happens, it will be realignment on the US side, not the European side.
BA can pretty much take QF and IB with it wherever it goes, and because of Eddington's deep connections at CX, he can probably bring them along, too.
The upshot of which is that if BA/KL comes to pass, then KL will almost certainly be brought into OW. If any realignment happens, it will be realignment on the US side, not the European side.
Aug 17, 2000 | 10:44 am
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
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Why does NW have to come at all? KL and NW have been having their disagreements, and this might be and opportune event to permit them to split.
Even if NW comes in, why does AA have to get dumped? There is no rule that says that two US carriers cannot be in an alliance together, as long as they comply with anti-trust regulation.
Even if NW comes in, why does AA have to get dumped? There is no rule that says that two US carriers cannot be in an alliance together, as long as they comply with anti-trust regulation.