RTW re-issue concerns (merged thread)
#136




Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 9,133
I called EP desk again to try my luck. A competent agent was able to apply the SWU. But she said this ticket could not be reissued as RTW desk didn't allow it. Instead, they would grant the SWU by notating on my PNR, but I would have to stop by JFK ticketing counter to pick up the BP and she said this is called a 'grab and go' in AA speak 

It's risky, because if other changes occur that require ticket reissue, the upgraded segment is at risk of being dropped. I had this exact issue on an ex-CAI DONEx, where AA could clear me into A on the AA segments but couldn't reissue the ticket. When other schedule changes forced RJ to reissue the ticket, they couldn't do so with the upgraded segments. (In theory, it should be possible for AA to put the upgraded segments at the end of the PNR, leaving the non-upgraded segments in the correct sequence, allowing RJ to reissue the ticket up to the upgraded segments, but in reality RJ can't handle duplicate segments.)
#137




Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 9,133
I would like my wife and I to keep our EXP, but I do not believe even with the 40,000. plus miles on each ticket We will make The Elite qualifying dollars to keep our EXP. We will easily make BA gold . ( even on one ticket!) Do you folks have any suggestions? I know I cannot get the tickets issued on AA stock.
You can see the exact formulas for each partner carrier by going to the AA partner page and clicking the specific partner airline.
#138




Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: SFO
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Keep in mind that you earn EQD and EQM on partner flights credited to AA based on distance flown. It doesn't matter who issued the ticket (AA or BA or QR or RJ or ...)
You can see the exact formulas for each partner carrier by going to the AA partner page and clicking the specific partner airline.
You can see the exact formulas for each partner carrier by going to the AA partner page and clicking the specific partner airline.
Thanks!
#139




Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 9,133
It's actually not all that difficult, just a bit tedious when flying multiple airlines. First, click the link I posted. Second, click the link for the airline you will be flying. Then, find the line in the table for the fare booking code you will be flying (e.g., if you are flying on a DONEx, use the line for "D"). Multiply the earnings rate by the flight distance. You can check flight distances at Great Circle Mapper. The GCMap flight distances are within a few miles of what AA uses. You can also call AA for the exact distance.
#140




Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: ORD [formerly] + HKG
Programs: CX Diamond, AA exExPlat, BAEC exGold, HH Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Starriott Titanium, GE
Posts: 3,085
Very glad that it went smoothly! Just curious, were you able to check-in online? I'd guess not, since the online checkin system wouldn't be able to match your PNR A segment to a e-ticket VCP (virtual coupon).
#142




Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 9,133
Everything worked perfectly, the original J sector vanished without a trace on all platforms (so AA and CX and QR/QF etc...). I was able to check in just as usual. What happened was after speaking with the EP desk about 'grab and go', they sent BA (original issuing carrier) a message that says I'm now placed in F on that sector 'because of cabin closure', which was then relied to CX (ticket 'owner' of my DONE). I then called CX to ensure everything was fine and they even sent me a new e ticket again afterwards, so your concern about reissuance may even have gone through in my case (although I'm not 100% sure if they actually reissued it.)
#143


Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 180
With this grab and go idea, if its related at all, how difficult for one to use AA EXP status to apply SWU on Done4 and then credit to another program?
I am thinking of the possibility to use my only Done4 doing two years of OWE status, with some of my own other business travels, to an easier program like BAEC.
I am thinking of the possibility to use my only Done4 doing two years of OWE status, with some of my own other business travels, to an easier program like BAEC.
#144
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 18
I just got a flight change notification for my LONE5 ex-JNB departing in October. My 3rd leg, EZE-xSCL-IPC is what changed, now leaving me with a 11+ hour layover in SCL I'd love to avoid. What's the best way to handle a pre-departure flight change like this? I obviously don't want to go through repricing, but would love to have get a better fix in place sooner rather than later.
What should I expect Qantas (booking carrier) to be able to do here? My preference would be Option 1, but Option 2 would also be better than the current itinerary. Everything in this section is LA metal. Thank you!!
- Original: EZE-SCL-IPC with a 4:45 layover, arriving 22:15 (EZE-SCL LA450 appears to have now ceased for that date)
- Changed to: EZE-SCL-IPC with an 11:15 layover, arriving 22:15
- Option 1: EZE-SCL-IPC with a 1:55 layover, arriving 12:55 (different SCL-IPC flight, which doesnt show up as available in the online tool)
- Option 2: AEP-SCL-IPC with a 3:40 layover, arriving 22:15 (different departing airport; causing a 17th segment)
- Option 3: Wait until post-departure to try to fix this...
What should I expect Qantas (booking carrier) to be able to do here? My preference would be Option 1, but Option 2 would also be better than the current itinerary. Everything in this section is LA metal. Thank you!!
#145




Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 9,133
With this grab and go idea, if its related at all, how difficult for one to use AA EXP status to apply SWU on Done4 and then credit to another program?
I am thinking of the possibility to use my only Done4 doing two years of OWE status, with some of my own other business travels, to an easier program like BAEC.
I am thinking of the possibility to use my only Done4 doing two years of OWE status, with some of my own other business travels, to an easier program like BAEC.
#146




Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 9,133
I just got a flight change notification for my LONE5 ex-JNB departing in October. My 3rd leg, EZE-xSCL-IPC is what changed, now leaving me with a 11+ hour layover in SCL I'd love to avoid. What's the best way to handle a pre-departure flight change like this? I obviously don't want to go through repricing, but would love to have get a better fix in place sooner rather than later.
What should I expect Qantas (booking carrier) to be able to do here? My preference would be Option 1, but Option 2 would also be better than the current itinerary. Everything in this section is LA metal. Thank you!!
- Original: EZE-SCL-IPC with a 4:45 layover, arriving 22:15 (EZE-SCL LA450 appears to have now ceased for that date)
- Changed to: EZE-SCL-IPC with an 11:15 layover, arriving 22:15
- Option 1: EZE-SCL-IPC with a 1:55 layover, arriving 12:55 (different SCL-IPC flight, which doesnt show up as available in the online tool)
- Option 2: AEP-SCL-IPC with a 3:40 layover, arriving 22:15 (different departing airport; causing a 17th segment)
- Option 3: Wait until post-departure to try to fix this...
What should I expect Qantas (booking carrier) to be able to do here? My preference would be Option 1, but Option 2 would also be better than the current itinerary. Everything in this section is LA metal. Thank you!!
#148




Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: SFO
Programs: AA Now dirt, BA Silver soon dirt EX NW IGE. EX BA Gold EX AA EXP x9. SQ Gold
Posts: 578
Mixed fleet crew on CAI-LHR July 4
Hi Folks,
Starting my AONE5 on July 4 on BA154 CAI-LHR.
BA confirmed that this flight is a mixed fleet crew.
Since this is the first leg of the AONE5, BA will not let me make a flight/date change until BA 154 actually cancels. I will be in CAI on July 2, so I will be there with few options until I see if BA 155 departs LHR on July 3. ( and I will have no laptop or i pad to check alternatives)
Even then I will not be able to arrange alternatives until the BA agents show up at the airport 3 hrs. before the flight. I wanted to try to change the routing through AMM, but cannot until July 4, at the airport. Then it will be to late to make any connection for my flight from LHR. A days delay is not usually an issue but the wife has to be at work on the 6th.
(A few years ago a forum member got a nice reroute on QR to LHR, but DOH is not an alternative anymore from CAI.) I would not mind a EY reroute, but BA says that will be up to the CAI agent, and she said reroutes for strikes are usually limited to BA or OW partners than " operational cancellations" when BA is free to book on any carrier that takes its script..
Anyone who has endured a cancelled flight knows the utter chaos at the check in counter.
BA has assured me the flight will not be cancelled, stating that previous strikes CAI was not effected, even though it is a Mixed crew. I think my chances are 60% for a cancelled flight.
I am at a loss on what to do since I cannot change anything until the flight cancels and I will be on my way to CAI when the strike begins.
I am considering a refund of the ticket, but hate to miss out on vacation in Male and Australia. And lose a great priced ticket.
Any thoughts? Advice?
Starting my AONE5 on July 4 on BA154 CAI-LHR.
BA confirmed that this flight is a mixed fleet crew.
Since this is the first leg of the AONE5, BA will not let me make a flight/date change until BA 154 actually cancels. I will be in CAI on July 2, so I will be there with few options until I see if BA 155 departs LHR on July 3. ( and I will have no laptop or i pad to check alternatives)
Even then I will not be able to arrange alternatives until the BA agents show up at the airport 3 hrs. before the flight. I wanted to try to change the routing through AMM, but cannot until July 4, at the airport. Then it will be to late to make any connection for my flight from LHR. A days delay is not usually an issue but the wife has to be at work on the 6th.
(A few years ago a forum member got a nice reroute on QR to LHR, but DOH is not an alternative anymore from CAI.) I would not mind a EY reroute, but BA says that will be up to the CAI agent, and she said reroutes for strikes are usually limited to BA or OW partners than " operational cancellations" when BA is free to book on any carrier that takes its script..
Anyone who has endured a cancelled flight knows the utter chaos at the check in counter.
BA has assured me the flight will not be cancelled, stating that previous strikes CAI was not effected, even though it is a Mixed crew. I think my chances are 60% for a cancelled flight.
I am at a loss on what to do since I cannot change anything until the flight cancels and I will be on my way to CAI when the strike begins.
I am considering a refund of the ticket, but hate to miss out on vacation in Male and Australia. And lose a great priced ticket.
Any thoughts? Advice?
Last edited by 2old4coach; Jun 20, 2017 at 10:35 pm Reason: spelling
#150




Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: SFO
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