Oneworld booking and pricing experiences
#1096
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: SFOSJCOAK
Programs: AA-EXP & 1MM+, AS, MR-LTT, HH Gold
Posts: 7,609
I'm looking at a DONE3 departing from Budapest.
Something like (BUD-DOH-LAX)-MIA-MEX-DFW-ICN-HND-KUL-(DPS-HEL-BUD).
The online tool won't let me book BUD-DOH-LAX to begin with (aware is a problem with QR being the first carrier), but if I call the AA RTW desk would it price correctly?
And if I'm in DOH for less than 23hr would I be able to do add more segments in Europe at the end? Something like DPS-HEL-MAD-BUD to close with?
Something like (BUD-DOH-LAX)-MIA-MEX-DFW-ICN-HND-KUL-(DPS-HEL-BUD).
The online tool won't let me book BUD-DOH-LAX to begin with (aware is a problem with QR being the first carrier), but if I call the AA RTW desk would it price correctly?
And if I'm in DOH for less than 23hr would I be able to do add more segments in Europe at the end? Something like DPS-HEL-MAD-BUD to close with?
Not sure if QR has such competent agent as CX. The key is to give them 100% legit flight info on a spreadsheet.
#1097
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 942
I wouldn't count on that. It will be a challenge to find a QR agent able and willing to make such changes. Also I don't think QR will make voluntary changes to a ticket issued by AA (or any other airline for that matter).
#1098
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 8,938
My experience has been that both points are the case. There was a time when most OneWorld airlines were willing to take over and make changes to an RTW ticket issued by another, and QR used to have competent agents familiar with RTWs available. My experience has been that neither has been the case for some time now.
#1099
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 8,938
That's very nice of you! If it isn't too much trouble, I'd be curious to see the affect on YQ/YR by changing the validating carrier from QR to, say, AA, BA, JL, MH, AY. We're always speculating in here about which carrier imposes higher or lower surcharges.
#1100
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
Programs: CX GO (=SPH), IHG Diamond Amb, Hertz 5*, Accor, Hilton, National
Posts: 6,441
Validating carrier QR:
Code:
WQBUD/AQR1FEB/CD/XDOH/AQR/CDLAX/AAA/CDMIA/AAA/CDMEX/AAA/CD/XDFW/AAA/CDICN/AJL/CDHND/AJL/CDKUL/AMH/CDDPS/AAY/CD/XHEL/AAY/CDBUD-RW/MUSD/VQR/SDFW/TDFW PSGR TYPE ADT FARE BASIS BOOK CODE FARE TAX/FEES/CHGS TOTAL 01 DONE3 D/D/D/D/* USD 5557.00 718.36 6275.36 ADT 02 DONE4 D/D/D/D/* USD 6083.00 920.99 7003.99 ADT 03 DONE5 D/D/D/D/* USD 7019.00 925.64 7944.64 ADT 04 DONE6 D/D/D/D/* USD 7919.00 1030.21 8949.21 ADT *01-04*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY *01-04*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED *01-04*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED *01-04*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY ATTN*SEE OTHER FARES - USE XM QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-XM ATTN*SEE ALL FARES - USE AL QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-AL ** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES ** ** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE CONFIRMED ** . WQDF1 WQDF1 PSGR TYPE ADT FARE HUF 2030400 EQUIV USD 5557.00 TAX USD 30.30HU USD 5.40FE USD 682.66XT TOTAL USD 6275.36 BUD QR X/DOH QR LAX AA MIA AA MEX AA X/DFW AA SEL JL TYO JL KUL MH DPS AY X/HEL AY BUD5180.34NUC5180.34END ROE391.942802 ZPLAX XT USD16.50QA USD0.50PZ USD16.50G4 USD27.90US USD4.80ZP XT USD42.20US USD13.04YC USD14.00XY USD7.66XA USD11.20AY XT USD61.76XD USD35.11UK USD22.70BP USD23.00SW USD8.10MY XT USD0.20H8 USD15.90D5 USD5.60DQ USD1.00XU USD5.30WL XT USD32.00YR USD273.00YQ USD11.60G1 USD7.80TK USD2.70R9 XT USD9.09S1 USD13.50XFLAX4.5MIA4.5DFW4.5 RATE USED 1HUF-0.00273698USD /////////////// TRAFFIC DOCUMENT ISSUED IN DFW /////////////// PU -FARE BASIS-CUR NUC AMT ELEMENT DESCRIPTION ----------- GI 01 DONE3 HUF 5180.34 BUD-BUD QR /RT RTG RW 5180.34 - TOTAL NUC -TAX AMT/USD/-- CUR CODES DESCRIPTION-----TAX TYPE/SEQUENCE-- 273.00 /YQF SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED FUEL 220.00:USD 220.00 *BUD* *QR* 835 53.00:USD 53.00 *KUL* *MH* 7128800 32.00 /YRI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC 16.00:USD 16.00 *BUD* *QR* 10004 MD 16.00:USD 16.00 *BUD* *QR* 10004 5.60 FI/DQ SECURITY CHARGE 5.60:EUR 5.19 *HEL* *AY* 001 37187 5.30 FI/WL PASSENGER FEE INTERNATIONAL TRANSFE 5.30:EUR 4.88 *HEL* *AY* 001 44687 1.00 FI/XU AIR TRANSPORT SUPERVISION CHARGE 1.00:EUR 0.90 *HEL* *AY* 001 120000 5.40 HU/FE SECURITY CHARGE 5.40:EUR 5.00 *BUD* *QR* 001 24375 30.30 HU/HU AIRPORT DEPARTURE TAX 30.30:EUR 28.01 *BUD* *QR* 001 64746 15.90 ID/D5 PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE 15.90:IDR 240000 *DPS* *AY* 001 1687500 23.00 JP/SW PASSENGER SERVICE FACILITIES CHARGE 23.00:JPY 2950 *HND* *JL* 001 475000 7.80 JP/TK INTERNATIONAL TOURIST TAX 7.80:JPY 1000 *HND* *JL* 001 100000 22.70 KR/BP INTERNATIONAL PSC DEPARTURE TAX AND 22.70:KRW 28000 *ICN* *JL* 001 20000 9.09 MX/S1 IMMIGRATION FEE DSM 9.09:USD 9.09 *MEX* *AA* 001 1095000 35.11 MX/UK2 TOURISM TAX DERECHO NO INMIGRANTE 35.11:USD 35.11 *MIA* *AA* 002 140000 MD 61.76 MX/XD AIRPORT DEPARTURE TAX TUA INTERNA 61.76:USD 61.76 *MEX* *AA* 001 524296 11.60 MY/G1 DEPARTURE LEVY 11.60:MYR 50.00 *KUL* *MH* 001 108671 0.20 MY/H8 REGULATORY CHARGE DOMESTIC AND INTER 0.20:MYR 1.00 *KUL* *MH* 001 225000 8.10 MY/MY PASSENGER SERVICE AND SECURITY CHARG 8.10:MYR 35.00 *KUL* *MH* 001 39093 16.50 QA/G4 PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE PFC 16.50:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 105000 0.50 QA/PZ2 PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE ARRIVALS 0.50:USD 0.50 *BUD* *QR* 002 110000 16.50 QA/QA AIRPORT FEE INTERNATIONAL 16.50:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 25000 2.70 QA/R9 PASSENGER SAFETY AND SECURITY FEE PS 2.70:QAR 10.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 110000 11.20 US/AY PASSENGER CIVIL AVIATION SECURITY SE 5.60:USD 5.60 *LAX* 001 828212 5.60:USD 5.60 *MIA* 001 828212 27.90 US/US1 TRANSPORTATION TAX DOMESTIC NOT WHOL 27.90:USD 27.90 *LAX* *AA* 012 285000 42.20 US/US2 TRANSPORTATION TAX INTERNATIONAL DEP 21.10:USD 21.10 *MIA* *AA* 014 187890 MD 21.10:USD 21.10 *BUD* *QR* 015 137890 7.66 US/XA APHIS PASSENGER FEE PASSENGERS 3.83:USD 3.83 *MEX* *AA* 001 112500 3.83:USD 3.83 *DOH* *QR* 001 112500 14.00 US/XY2 IMMIGRATION USER FEE 7.00:USD 7.00 *MEX* *AA* 002 130000 7.00:USD 7.00 *DOH* *QR* 002 130000 13.04 US/YC CUSTOMS USER FEE 6.52:USD 6.52 *MEX* *AA* 001 125000 6.52:USD 6.52 *DOH* *QR* 001 125000 4.80 US/ZP FLIGHT SEGMENT TAX DOMESTIC 4.80:USD 4.80 *LAX* 001 138750 13.50 US/XF PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE 4.50:USD 4.50 *LAX* 4.50:USD 4.50 *MIA* 4.50:USD 4.50 *DFW* -IATA RATES OF EXCHANGE USED IN FARE CALCULATION -------------- 391.942802 HUF-ROE EFF 01JAN23*INDEF -BSR USED IN FARE CALCULATION --------------------------------- 1HUF:0.00273698USD -BSR USED IN TAX CALCULATION ---------------------------------- 1EUR:1.08128002USD 1IDR:0.00006606USD 1JPY:0.00779061USD 1KRW:0.00080969USD MD 1MYR:0.23203257USD 1QAR:0.27461211USD -PRICING UNIT TRIP TYPE --------------------------------------- PU 01 - SPECIAL RW SINGLE FARE COMPONENT
Validating carrier JL (QR's YQ/YR are not charged):
Code:
WQBUD/AQR1FEB/CD/XDOH/AQR/CDLAX/AAA/CDMIA/AAA/CDMEX/AAA/CD/XDFW/AAA/CDICN/AJL/CDHND/AJL/CDKUL/AMH/CDDPS/AAY/CD/XHEL/AAY/CDBUD-RW/MUSD/VJL/SDFW/TDFW PSGR TYPE ADT FARE BASIS BOOK CODE FARE TAX/FEES/CHGS TOTAL 01 DONE3 D/D/D/D/* USD 5557.00 735.96 6292.96 ADT 02 DONE4 D/D/D/D/* USD 6083.00 738.59 6821.59 ADT 03 DONE5 D/D/D/D/* USD 7019.00 743.24 7762.24 ADT 04 DONE6 D/D/D/D/* USD 7919.00 747.81 8666.81 ADT *01-04*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY *01-04*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED *01-04*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED *01-04*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY ATTN*SEE OTHER FARES - USE XM QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-XM ATTN*SEE ALL FARES - USE AL QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-AL ** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES ** ** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE CONFIRMED ** . WQDF1 WQDF1 PSGR TYPE ADT FARE HUF 2030400 EQUIV USD 5557.00 TAX USD 30.30HU USD 5.40FE USD 700.26XT TOTAL USD 6292.96 BUD QR X/DOH QR LAX AA MIA AA MEX AA X/DFW AA SEL JL TYO JL KUL MH DPS AY X/HEL AY BUD5180.34NUC5180.34END ROE391.942802 ZPLAX XT USD16.50QA USD0.50PZ USD16.50G4 USD27.90US USD4.80ZP XT USD42.20US USD13.04YC USD14.00XY USD7.66XA USD11.20AY XT USD61.76XD USD35.11UK USD22.70BP USD23.00SW USD8.10MY XT USD0.20H8 USD15.90D5 USD5.60DQ USD1.00XU USD5.30WL XT USD45.40YR USD277.20YQ USD11.60G1 USD7.80TK USD2.70R9 XT USD9.09S1 USD13.50XFLAX4.5MIA4.5DFW4.5 RATE USED 1HUF-0.00273698USD /////////////// TRAFFIC DOCUMENT ISSUED IN DFW /////////////// PU -FARE BASIS-CUR NUC AMT ELEMENT DESCRIPTION ----------- GI 01 DONE3 HUF 5180.34 BUD-BUD QR /RT RTG RW 5180.34 - TOTAL NUC -TAX AMT/USD/-- CUR CODES DESCRIPTION-----TAX TYPE/SEQUENCE-- 244.00 /YQF SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED FUEL 27.00:USD 27.00 *ICN* *JL* 1056860 164.00:USD 164.00 *HND* *JL* 1057160 53.00:USD 53.00 *KUL* *MH* 7128800 33.20 /YQI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC MD 3.60:USD 3.60 *ICN* *JL* 9040090 3.60:USD 3.60 *HND* *JL* 9040090 26.00:EUR 24.00 *DPS* *AY* 2135000 45.40 /YRI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC 45.40:EUR 42.00 *HEL* *AY* 8005170 5.60 FI/DQ SECURITY CHARGE 5.60:EUR 5.19 *HEL* *AY* 001 37187 5.30 FI/WL PASSENGER FEE INTERNATIONAL TRANSFE 5.30:EUR 4.88 *HEL* *AY* 001 44687 1.00 FI/XU AIR TRANSPORT SUPERVISION CHARGE 1.00:EUR 0.90 *HEL* *AY* 001 120000 5.40 HU/FE SECURITY CHARGE 5.40:EUR 5.00 *BUD* *QR* 001 24375 30.30 HU/HU AIRPORT DEPARTURE TAX 30.30:EUR 28.01 *BUD* *QR* 001 64746 15.90 ID/D5 PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE 15.90:IDR 240000 *DPS* *AY* 001 1687500 23.00 JP/SW PASSENGER SERVICE FACILITIES CHARGE 23.00:JPY 2950 *HND* *JL* 001 475000 7.80 JP/TK INTERNATIONAL TOURIST TAX 7.80:JPY 1000 *HND* *JL* 001 100000 22.70 KR/BP INTERNATIONAL PSC DEPARTURE TAX AND 22.70:KRW 28000 *ICN* *JL* 001 20000 MD 9.09 MX/S1 IMMIGRATION FEE DSM 9.09:USD 9.09 *MEX* *AA* 001 1095000 35.11 MX/UK2 TOURISM TAX DERECHO NO INMIGRANTE 35.11:USD 35.11 *MIA* *AA* 002 140000 61.76 MX/XD AIRPORT DEPARTURE TAX TUA INTERNA 61.76:USD 61.76 *MEX* *AA* 001 524296 11.60 MY/G1 DEPARTURE LEVY 11.60:MYR 50.00 *KUL* *MH* 001 108671 0.20 MY/H8 REGULATORY CHARGE DOMESTIC AND INTER 0.20:MYR 1.00 *KUL* *MH* 001 225000 8.10 MY/MY PASSENGER SERVICE AND SECURITY CHARG 8.10:MYR 35.00 *KUL* *MH* 001 39093 16.50 QA/G4 PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE PFC 16.50:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 105000 0.50 QA/PZ2 PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE ARRIVALS 0.50:USD 0.50 *BUD* *QR* 002 110000 16.50 QA/QA AIRPORT FEE INTERNATIONAL 16.50:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 25000 2.70 QA/R9 PASSENGER SAFETY AND SECURITY FEE PS 2.70:QAR 10.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 110000 11.20 US/AY PASSENGER CIVIL AVIATION SECURITY SE 5.60:USD 5.60 *LAX* 001 828212 5.60:USD 5.60 *MIA* 001 828212 MD 27.90 US/US1 TRANSPORTATION TAX DOMESTIC NOT WHOL 27.90:USD 27.90 *LAX* *AA* 012 285000 42.20 US/US2 TRANSPORTATION TAX INTERNATIONAL DEP 21.10:USD 21.10 *MIA* *AA* 014 187890 21.10:USD 21.10 *BUD* *QR* 015 137890 7.66 US/XA APHIS PASSENGER FEE PASSENGERS 3.83:USD 3.83 *MEX* *AA* 001 112500 3.83:USD 3.83 *DOH* *QR* 001 112500 14.00 US/XY2 IMMIGRATION USER FEE 7.00:USD 7.00 *MEX* *AA* 002 130000 7.00:USD 7.00 *DOH* *QR* 002 130000 13.04 US/YC CUSTOMS USER FEE 6.52:USD 6.52 *MEX* *AA* 001 125000 6.52:USD 6.52 *DOH* *QR* 001 125000 4.80 US/ZP FLIGHT SEGMENT TAX DOMESTIC 4.80:USD 4.80 *LAX* 001 138750 13.50 US/XF PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE 4.50:USD 4.50 *LAX* 4.50:USD 4.50 *MIA* 4.50:USD 4.50 *DFW* -IATA RATES OF EXCHANGE USED IN FARE CALCULATION -------------- 391.942802 HUF-ROE EFF 01JAN23*INDEF -BSR USED IN FARE CALCULATION --------------------------------- MD 1HUF:0.00273698USD -BSR USED IN TAX CALCULATION ---------------------------------- 1EUR:1.08128002USD 1IDR:0.00006606USD 1JPY:0.00779061USD 1KRW:0.00080969USD 1MYR:0.23203257USD 1QAR:0.27461211USD -PRICING UNIT TRIP TYPE --------------------------------------- PU 01 - SPECIAL RW SINGLE FARE COMPONENT .
Validating carrier MH (QR's YQ/YR are not charged):
Code:
WQBUD/AQR1FEB/CD/XDOH/AQR/CDLAX/AAA/CDMIA/AAA/CDMEX/AAA/CD/XDFW/AAA/CDICN/AJL/CDHND/AJL/CDKUL/AMH/CDDPS/AAY/CD/XHEL/AAY/CDBUD-RW/MUSD/VMH/SDFW/TDFW PSGR TYPE ADT FARE BASIS BOOK CODE FARE TAX/FEES/CHGS TOTAL 01 DONE3 D/D/D/D/* USD 5557.00 690.56 6247.56 ADT 02 DONE4 D/D/D/D/* USD 6083.00 693.19 6776.19 ADT 03 DONE5 D/D/D/D/* USD 7019.00 697.84 7716.84 ADT 04 DONE6 D/D/D/D/* USD 7919.00 702.41 8621.41 ADT *01-04*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY *01-04*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED *01-04*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED *01-04*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY ATTN*SEE OTHER FARES - USE XM QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-XM ATTN*SEE ALL FARES - USE AL QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-AL ** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES ** ** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE CONFIRMED ** . WQDF1 WQDF1 PSGR TYPE ADT FARE HUF 2030400 EQUIV USD 5557.00 TAX USD 30.30HU USD 5.40FE USD 654.86XT TOTAL USD 6247.56 BUD QR X/DOH QR LAX AA MIA AA MEX AA X/DFW AA SEL JL TYO JL KUL MH DPS AY X/HEL AY BUD5180.34NUC5180.34END ROE391.942802 ZPLAX XT USD16.50QA USD0.50PZ USD16.50G4 USD27.90US USD4.80ZP XT USD42.20US USD13.04YC USD14.00XY USD7.66XA USD11.20AY XT USD61.76XD USD35.11UK USD22.70BP USD23.00SW USD8.10MY XT USD0.20H8 USD15.90D5 USD5.60DQ USD1.00XU USD5.30WL XT USD277.20YQ USD9.09S1 USD11.60G1 USD7.80TK USD2.70R9 XT USD13.50XFLAX4.5MIA4.5DFW4.5 RATE USED 1HUF-0.00273698USD /////////////// TRAFFIC DOCUMENT ISSUED IN DFW /////////////// PU -FARE BASIS-CUR NUC AMT ELEMENT DESCRIPTION ----------- GI 01 DONE3 HUF 5180.34 BUD-BUD QR /RT RTG RW 5180.34 - TOTAL NUC -TAX AMT/USD/-- CUR CODES DESCRIPTION-----TAX TYPE/SEQUENCE-- 244.00 /YQF SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED FUEL 53.00:USD 53.00 *KUL* *MH* 7128800 27.00:USD 27.00 *ICN* *JL* 1056860 164.00:USD 164.00 *HND* *JL* 1057160 33.20 /YQI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC MD 3.60:USD 3.60 *ICN* *JL* 9040090 3.60:USD 3.60 *HND* *JL* 9040090 26.00:EUR 24.00 *DPS* *AY* 2135000 5.60 FI/DQ SECURITY CHARGE 5.60:EUR 5.19 *HEL* *AY* 001 37187 5.30 FI/WL PASSENGER FEE INTERNATIONAL TRANSFE 5.30:EUR 4.88 *HEL* *AY* 001 44687 1.00 FI/XU AIR TRANSPORT SUPERVISION CHARGE 1.00:EUR 0.90 *HEL* *AY* 001 120000 5.40 HU/FE SECURITY CHARGE 5.40:EUR 5.00 *BUD* *QR* 001 24375 30.30 HU/HU AIRPORT DEPARTURE TAX 30.30:EUR 28.01 *BUD* *QR* 001 64746 15.90 ID/D5 PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE 15.90:IDR 240000 *DPS* *AY* 001 1687500 23.00 JP/SW PASSENGER SERVICE FACILITIES CHARGE 23.00:JPY 2950 *HND* *JL* 001 475000 7.80 JP/TK INTERNATIONAL TOURIST TAX 7.80:JPY 1000 *HND* *JL* 001 100000 22.70 KR/BP INTERNATIONAL PSC DEPARTURE TAX AND 22.70:KRW 28000 *ICN* *JL* 001 20000 9.09 MX/S1 IMMIGRATION FEE DSM 9.09:USD 9.09 *MEX* *AA* 001 1095000 MD 35.11 MX/UK2 TOURISM TAX DERECHO NO INMIGRANTE 35.11:USD 35.11 *MIA* *AA* 002 140000 61.76 MX/XD AIRPORT DEPARTURE TAX TUA INTERNA 61.76:USD 61.76 *MEX* *AA* 001 524296 11.60 MY/G1 DEPARTURE LEVY 11.60:MYR 50.00 *KUL* *MH* 001 108671 0.20 MY/H8 REGULATORY CHARGE DOMESTIC AND INTER 0.20:MYR 1.00 *KUL* *MH* 001 225000 8.10 MY/MY PASSENGER SERVICE AND SECURITY CHARG 8.10:MYR 35.00 *KUL* *MH* 001 39093 16.50 QA/G4 PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE PFC 16.50:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 105000 0.50 QA/PZ2 PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE ARRIVALS 0.50:USD 0.50 *BUD* *QR* 002 110000 16.50 QA/QA AIRPORT FEE INTERNATIONAL 16.50:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 25000 2.70 QA/R9 PASSENGER SAFETY AND SECURITY FEE PS 2.70:QAR 10.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 110000 11.20 US/AY PASSENGER CIVIL AVIATION SECURITY SE 5.60:USD 5.60 *LAX* 001 828212 5.60:USD 5.60 *MIA* 001 828212 27.90 US/US1 TRANSPORTATION TAX DOMESTIC NOT WHOL 27.90:USD 27.90 *LAX* *AA* 012 285000 MD 42.20 US/US2 TRANSPORTATION TAX INTERNATIONAL DEP 21.10:USD 21.10 *MIA* *AA* 014 187890 21.10:USD 21.10 *BUD* *QR* 015 137890 7.66 US/XA APHIS PASSENGER FEE PASSENGERS 3.83:USD 3.83 *MEX* *AA* 001 112500 3.83:USD 3.83 *DOH* *QR* 001 112500 14.00 US/XY2 IMMIGRATION USER FEE 7.00:USD 7.00 *MEX* *AA* 002 130000 7.00:USD 7.00 *DOH* *QR* 002 130000 13.04 US/YC CUSTOMS USER FEE 6.52:USD 6.52 *MEX* *AA* 001 125000 6.52:USD 6.52 *DOH* *QR* 001 125000 4.80 US/ZP FLIGHT SEGMENT TAX DOMESTIC 4.80:USD 4.80 *LAX* 001 138750 13.50 US/XF PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE 4.50:USD 4.50 *LAX* 4.50:USD 4.50 *MIA* 4.50:USD 4.50 *DFW* -IATA RATES OF EXCHANGE USED IN FARE CALCULATION -------------- 391.942802 HUF-ROE EFF 01JAN23*INDEF -BSR USED IN FARE CALCULATION --------------------------------- 1HUF:0.00273698USD -BSR USED IN TAX CALCULATION ---------------------------------- MD 1EUR:1.08128002USD 1IDR:0.00006606USD 1JPY:0.00779061USD 1KRW:0.00080969USD 1MYR:0.23203257USD 1QAR:0.27461211USD -PRICING UNIT TRIP TYPE --------------------------------------- PU 01 - SPECIAL RW SINGLE FARE COMPONENT .
Validating carrier AY:
Code:
WQBUD/AQR1FEB/CD/XDOH/AQR/CDLAX/AAA/CDMIA/AAA/CDMEX/AAA/CD/XDFW/AAA/CDICN/AJL/CDHND/AJL/CDKUL/AMH/CDDPS/AAY/CD/XHEL/AAY/CDBUD-RW/MUSD/VAY/SDFW/TDFW PSGR TYPE ADT FARE BASIS BOOK CODE FARE TAX/FEES/CHGS TOTAL 01 DONE3 D/D/D/D/* USD 5557.00 942.56 6499.56 ADT 02 DONE4 D/D/D/D/* USD 6083.00 1145.19 7228.19 ADT 03 DONE5 D/D/D/D/* USD 7019.00 1149.84 8168.84 ADT 04 DONE6 D/D/D/D/* USD 7919.00 1254.41 9173.41 ADT *01-04*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY *01-04*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED *01-04*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED *01-04*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY ATTN*SEE OTHER FARES - USE XM QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-XM ATTN*SEE ALL FARES - USE AL QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-AL ** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES ** ** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE CONFIRMED ** . WQDF1 WQDF1 PSGR TYPE ADT FARE HUF 2030400 EQUIV USD 5557.00 TAX USD 30.30HU USD 5.40FE USD 906.86XT TOTAL USD 6499.56 BUD QR X/DOH QR LAX AA MIA AA MEX AA X/DFW AA SEL JL TYO JL KUL MH DPS AY X/HEL AY BUD5180.34NUC5180.34END ROE391.942802 ZPLAX XT USD16.50QA USD0.50PZ USD16.50G4 USD27.90US USD4.80ZP XT USD42.20US USD13.04YC USD14.00XY USD7.66XA USD11.20AY XT USD61.76XD USD35.11UK USD22.70BP USD23.00SW USD8.10MY XT USD0.20H8 USD15.90D5 USD5.60DQ USD1.00XU USD5.30WL XT USD32.00YR USD497.20YQ USD11.60G1 USD7.80TK USD2.70R9 XT USD9.09S1 USD13.50XFLAX4.5MIA4.5DFW4.5 RATE USED 1HUF-0.00273698USD /////////////// TRAFFIC DOCUMENT ISSUED IN DFW /////////////// PU -FARE BASIS-CUR NUC AMT ELEMENT DESCRIPTION ----------- GI 01 DONE3 HUF 5180.34 BUD-BUD QR /RT RTG RW 5180.34 - TOTAL NUC -TAX AMT/USD/-- CUR CODES DESCRIPTION-----TAX TYPE/SEQUENCE-- 33.20 /YQI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC 26.00:EUR 24.00 *DPS* *AY* 2135000 3.60:USD 3.60 *ICN* *JL* 9040090 3.60:USD 3.60 *HND* *JL* 9040090 464.00 /YQF SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED FUEL MD 220.00:USD 220.00 *BUD* *QR* 835 27.00:USD 27.00 *ICN* *JL* 1056860 164.00:USD 164.00 *HND* *JL* 1057160 53.00:USD 53.00 *KUL* *MH* 7128800 32.00 /YRI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC 16.00:USD 16.00 *BUD* *QR* 10004 16.00:USD 16.00 *BUD* *QR* 10004 5.60 FI/DQ SECURITY CHARGE 5.60:EUR 5.19 *HEL* *AY* 001 37187 5.30 FI/WL PASSENGER FEE INTERNATIONAL TRANSFE 5.30:EUR 4.88 *HEL* *AY* 001 44687 1.00 FI/XU AIR TRANSPORT SUPERVISION CHARGE 1.00:EUR 0.90 *HEL* *AY* 001 120000 5.40 HU/FE SECURITY CHARGE 5.40:EUR 5.00 *BUD* *QR* 001 24375 30.30 HU/HU AIRPORT DEPARTURE TAX 30.30:EUR 28.01 *BUD* *QR* 001 64746 15.90 ID/D5 PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE 15.90:IDR 240000 *DPS* *AY* 001 1687500 23.00 JP/SW PASSENGER SERVICE FACILITIES CHARGE 23.00:JPY 2950 *HND* *JL* 001 475000 7.80 JP/TK INTERNATIONAL TOURIST TAX 7.80:JPY 1000 *HND* *JL* 001 100000 MD 22.70 KR/BP INTERNATIONAL PSC DEPARTURE TAX AND 22.70:KRW 28000 *ICN* *JL* 001 20000 9.09 MX/S1 IMMIGRATION FEE DSM 9.09:USD 9.09 *MEX* *AA* 001 1095000 35.11 MX/UK2 TOURISM TAX DERECHO NO INMIGRANTE 35.11:USD 35.11 *MIA* *AA* 002 140000 61.76 MX/XD AIRPORT DEPARTURE TAX TUA INTERNA 61.76:USD 61.76 *MEX* *AA* 001 524296 11.60 MY/G1 DEPARTURE LEVY 11.60:MYR 50.00 *KUL* *MH* 001 108671 0.20 MY/H8 REGULATORY CHARGE DOMESTIC AND INTER 0.20:MYR 1.00 *KUL* *MH* 001 225000 8.10 MY/MY PASSENGER SERVICE AND SECURITY CHARG 8.10:MYR 35.00 *KUL* *MH* 001 39093 16.50 QA/G4 PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE PFC 16.50:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 105000 0.50 QA/PZ2 PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE ARRIVALS 0.50:USD 0.50 *BUD* *QR* 002 110000 16.50 QA/QA AIRPORT FEE INTERNATIONAL 16.50:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 25000 2.70 QA/R9 PASSENGER SAFETY AND SECURITY FEE PS 2.70:QAR 10.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 110000 11.20 US/AY PASSENGER CIVIL AVIATION SECURITY SE MD 5.60:USD 5.60 *LAX* 001 828212 5.60:USD 5.60 *MIA* 001 828212 27.90 US/US1 TRANSPORTATION TAX DOMESTIC NOT WHOL 27.90:USD 27.90 *LAX* *AA* 012 285000 42.20 US/US2 TRANSPORTATION TAX INTERNATIONAL DEP 21.10:USD 21.10 *MIA* *AA* 014 187890 21.10:USD 21.10 *BUD* *QR* 015 137890 7.66 US/XA APHIS PASSENGER FEE PASSENGERS 3.83:USD 3.83 *MEX* *AA* 001 112500 3.83:USD 3.83 *DOH* *QR* 001 112500 14.00 US/XY2 IMMIGRATION USER FEE 7.00:USD 7.00 *MEX* *AA* 002 130000 7.00:USD 7.00 *DOH* *QR* 002 130000 13.04 US/YC CUSTOMS USER FEE 6.52:USD 6.52 *MEX* *AA* 001 125000 6.52:USD 6.52 *DOH* *QR* 001 125000 4.80 US/ZP FLIGHT SEGMENT TAX DOMESTIC 4.80:USD 4.80 *LAX* 001 138750 13.50 US/XF PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE 4.50:USD 4.50 *LAX* 4.50:USD 4.50 *MIA* 4.50:USD 4.50 *DFW* -IATA RATES OF EXCHANGE USED IN FARE CALCULATION -------------- MD 391.942802 HUF-ROE EFF 01JAN23*INDEF -BSR USED IN FARE CALCULATION --------------------------------- 1HUF:0.00273698USD -BSR USED IN TAX CALCULATION ---------------------------------- 1EUR:1.08128002USD 1IDR:0.00006606USD 1JPY:0.00779061USD 1KRW:0.00080969USD 1MYR:0.23203257USD 1QAR:0.27461211USD -PRICING UNIT TRIP TYPE --------------------------------------- PU 01 - SPECIAL RW SINGLE FARE COMPONENT .
I did not try validating carrier BA as the itinerary contains no BA segments. For this specific itinerary, validating it on MH results in the lowest quote. However, since there are no apparent long-haul segment on MH, I am not sure whether it is feasible to have this ticket issued by MH.
#1101
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 8,938
I calculated the previous quote specifying the validating carrier to be AA, since you were talking about AA. Validating it on QR would theoretically bring the YQ/YR lower than validating it on AA, as QR only seems (to my knowledge so far) charges YQ/YR on QR, BA, and MH but not other carriers. However, anecdotal reports that I heard from another FTer suggests QR (which uses Amadeus)'s quote does not conform to my Sabre quotes, as QR calculates an RTW part by part and, as a result, collect other carriers' YQ/YR. A Sabre travel agent might be able to issue using this quote by plating the ticket on QR (doable given QR has the first inter-TC segment), but given the small difference, it is likely not worth it after considering the agency fees.
[[[ fare quotes on several carriers omitted ]]]
I did not try validating carrier BA as the itinerary contains no BA segments. For this specific itinerary, validating it on MH results in the lowest quote. However, since there are no apparent long-haul segment on MH, I am not sure whether it is feasible to have this ticket issued by MH.
[[[ fare quotes on several carriers omitted ]]]
I did not try validating carrier BA as the itinerary contains no BA segments. For this specific itinerary, validating it on MH results in the lowest quote. However, since there are no apparent long-haul segment on MH, I am not sure whether it is feasible to have this ticket issued by MH.
#1102
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
Programs: CX GO (=SPH), IHG Diamond Amb, Hertz 5*, Accor, Hilton, National
Posts: 6,441
Note:
1. Sabre is not used by oneworld carriers other than AA and AS (all others use Amadeus whose RTW pricing ability is less robust), and I cannot guarantee the airline will provide the exact same quote as the one I generate.
2. Sometimes the system will not autoprice. I know this to be the case when you have an intercontinental open-jaw and when you max out intra-Asia segment (I think 3 is possible, but not 4?). Maybe there are other quirks that I have not yet seen.
3. I do not know how long I can maintain Sabre access. Maybe just a few weeks and it may only come intermittently. I always have Amadeus access, but Amadeus can only handle very simple RTW routing for autoprice.
Example:
WQBUD/AQR1FEB/CD/XDOH/AQR2FEB/CDLAX/AAA11FEB/CDMIA/AAA21FEB/CDMEX/AAA1MAR/CD/XDFW/AAA1MAR/CDICN/AJL11MAR/CDHND/AJL21MAR/CDKUL/AMH1APR/CDDPS/AAY11APR/CD/XHEL/AAY21APR/CDBUD-RW/MUSD/VAA/SDFW/TDFW
Explanation:
WQ[origin city code]/A[carrier code][date in MMDDD (mandatory only for the first segment, if the date is 1~9 the leading 0 can be omitted)]/C[booking class]#[city code] ... [final destination city code]-RW/M[currency code (not required but my default is TWD, or it will be defaulted to the sales city if specified)]/V[validating carrier code]/S[sales city code (not required, my default is RMQ)]/T[place of ticket issuance city code (in almost all cases, sales city = place of ticket issuance city code, and it can be omitted)]
# If stopover, put nothing. If transit, put /X. If open-jaw, put [city code before open-jaw]/-[city code after open-jaw], e. g., ... LAX/AAA11FEB/CDMIA/-ORD/AAA21FEB/CDMEX ...
#1103
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,499
Time permitting and access permitting, I can run these codes and paste the results here. Feel free to put the request here and I will take a look from time to time. I would appreciate if people give me the routing using the Sabre WQ (Will Quote) format explained below, but if it is too complicated to follow, just give me the routing and I will do it.
Note:
1. Sabre is not used by oneworld carriers other than AA and AS (all others use Amadeus whose RTW pricing ability is less robust), and I cannot guarantee the airline will provide the exact same quote as the one I generate.
2. Sometimes the system will not autoprice. I know this to be the case when you have an intercontinental open-jaw and when you max out intra-Asia segment (I think 3 is possible, but not 4?). Maybe there are other quirks that I have not yet seen.
3. I do not know how long I can maintain Sabre access. Maybe just a few weeks and it may only come intermittently. I always have Amadeus access, but Amadeus can only handle very simple RTW routing for autoprice.
Example:
WQBUD/AQR1FEB/CD/XDOH/AQR2FEB/CDLAX/AAA11FEB/CDMIA/AAA21FEB/CDMEX/AAA1MAR/CD/XDFW/AAA1MAR/CDICN/AJL11MAR/CDHND/AJL21MAR/CDKUL/AMH1APR/CDDPS/AAY11APR/CD/XHEL/AAY21APR/CDBUD-RW/MUSD/VAA/SDFW/TDFW
Explanation:
WQ[origin city code]/A[carrier code][date in MMDDD (mandatory only for the first segment, if the date is 1~9 the leading 0 can be omitted)]/C[booking class]#[city code] ... [final destination city code]-RW/M[currency code (not required but my default is TWD, or it will be defaulted to the sales city if specified)]/V[validating carrier code]/S[sales city code (not required, my default is RMQ)]/T[place of ticket issuance city code (in almost all cases, sales city = place of ticket issuance city code, and it can be omitted)]
# If stopover, put nothing. If transit, put /X. If open-jaw, put [city code before open-jaw]/-[city code after open-jaw], e. g., ... LAX/AAA11FEB/CDMIA/-ORD/AAA21FEB/CDMEX ...
Note:
1. Sabre is not used by oneworld carriers other than AA and AS (all others use Amadeus whose RTW pricing ability is less robust), and I cannot guarantee the airline will provide the exact same quote as the one I generate.
2. Sometimes the system will not autoprice. I know this to be the case when you have an intercontinental open-jaw and when you max out intra-Asia segment (I think 3 is possible, but not 4?). Maybe there are other quirks that I have not yet seen.
3. I do not know how long I can maintain Sabre access. Maybe just a few weeks and it may only come intermittently. I always have Amadeus access, but Amadeus can only handle very simple RTW routing for autoprice.
Example:
WQBUD/AQR1FEB/CD/XDOH/AQR2FEB/CDLAX/AAA11FEB/CDMIA/AAA21FEB/CDMEX/AAA1MAR/CD/XDFW/AAA1MAR/CDICN/AJL11MAR/CDHND/AJL21MAR/CDKUL/AMH1APR/CDDPS/AAY11APR/CD/XHEL/AAY21APR/CDBUD-RW/MUSD/VAA/SDFW/TDFW
Explanation:
WQ[origin city code]/A[carrier code][date in MMDDD (mandatory only for the first segment, if the date is 1~9 the leading 0 can be omitted)]/C[booking class]#[city code] ... [final destination city code]-RW/M[currency code (not required but my default is TWD, or it will be defaulted to the sales city if specified)]/V[validating carrier code]/S[sales city code (not required, my default is RMQ)]/T[place of ticket issuance city code (in almost all cases, sales city = place of ticket issuance city code, and it can be omitted)]
# If stopover, put nothing. If transit, put /X. If open-jaw, put [city code before open-jaw]/-[city code after open-jaw], e. g., ... LAX/AAA11FEB/CDMIA/-ORD/AAA21FEB/CDMEX ...
thats amazing, thank you.
#1104
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 8,938
I'm sorry to hear you may be losing Sabre access.
#1105
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SAN
Programs: Lots of faux metal
Posts: 6,435
Time permitting and access permitting, I can run these codes and paste the results here. Feel free to put the request here and I will take a look from time to time. I would appreciate if people give me the routing using the Sabre WQ (Will Quote) format explained below, but if it is too complicated to follow, just give me the routing and I will do it.
Note:
1. Sabre is not used by oneworld carriers other than AA and AS (all others use Amadeus whose RTW pricing ability is less robust), and I cannot guarantee the airline will provide the exact same quote as the one I generate.
2. Sometimes the system will not autoprice. I know this to be the case when you have an intercontinental open-jaw and when you max out intra-Asia segment (I think 3 is possible, but not 4?). Maybe there are other quirks that I have not yet seen.
3. I do not know how long I can maintain Sabre access. Maybe just a few weeks and it may only come intermittently. I always have Amadeus access, but Amadeus can only handle very simple RTW routing for autoprice.
Example:
WQBUD/AQR1FEB/CD/XDOH/AQR2FEB/CDLAX/AAA11FEB/CDMIA/AAA21FEB/CDMEX/AAA1MAR/CD/XDFW/AAA1MAR/CDICN/AJL11MAR/CDHND/AJL21MAR/CDKUL/AMH1APR/CDDPS/AAY11APR/CD/XHEL/AAY21APR/CDBUD-RW/MUSD/VAA/SDFW/TDFW
Explanation:
WQ[origin city code]/A[carrier code][date in MMDDD (mandatory only for the first segment, if the date is 1~9 the leading 0 can be omitted)]/C[booking class]#[city code] ... [final destination city code]-RW/M[currency code (not required but my default is TWD, or it will be defaulted to the sales city if specified)]/V[validating carrier code]/S[sales city code (not required, my default is RMQ)]/T[place of ticket issuance city code (in almost all cases, sales city = place of ticket issuance city code, and it can be omitted)]
# If stopover, put nothing. If transit, put /X. If open-jaw, put [city code before open-jaw]/-[city code after open-jaw], e. g., ... LAX/AAA11FEB/CDMIA/-ORD/AAA21FEB/CDMEX ...
Note:
1. Sabre is not used by oneworld carriers other than AA and AS (all others use Amadeus whose RTW pricing ability is less robust), and I cannot guarantee the airline will provide the exact same quote as the one I generate.
2. Sometimes the system will not autoprice. I know this to be the case when you have an intercontinental open-jaw and when you max out intra-Asia segment (I think 3 is possible, but not 4?). Maybe there are other quirks that I have not yet seen.
3. I do not know how long I can maintain Sabre access. Maybe just a few weeks and it may only come intermittently. I always have Amadeus access, but Amadeus can only handle very simple RTW routing for autoprice.
Example:
WQBUD/AQR1FEB/CD/XDOH/AQR2FEB/CDLAX/AAA11FEB/CDMIA/AAA21FEB/CDMEX/AAA1MAR/CD/XDFW/AAA1MAR/CDICN/AJL11MAR/CDHND/AJL21MAR/CDKUL/AMH1APR/CDDPS/AAY11APR/CD/XHEL/AAY21APR/CDBUD-RW/MUSD/VAA/SDFW/TDFW
Explanation:
WQ[origin city code]/A[carrier code][date in MMDDD (mandatory only for the first segment, if the date is 1~9 the leading 0 can be omitted)]/C[booking class]#[city code] ... [final destination city code]-RW/M[currency code (not required but my default is TWD, or it will be defaulted to the sales city if specified)]/V[validating carrier code]/S[sales city code (not required, my default is RMQ)]/T[place of ticket issuance city code (in almost all cases, sales city = place of ticket issuance city code, and it can be omitted)]
# If stopover, put nothing. If transit, put /X. If open-jaw, put [city code before open-jaw]/-[city code after open-jaw], e. g., ... LAX/AAA11FEB/CDMIA/-ORD/AAA21FEB/CDMEX ...
Can you ticket or only price?
#1106
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
Programs: CX GO (=SPH), IHG Diamond Amb, Hertz 5*, Accor, Hilton, National
Posts: 6,441
One such quirk that I've run into is with intra-Australia segments. Autoprice chokes if there are transcons within Australia, and sometimes even without transcons. (The rules permit at least one transcon, possibly more than one if the routes are carefully chosen based on the rules and the person interpreting the rules allows it.)
I'm sorry to hear you may be losing Sabre access.
I'm sorry to hear you may be losing Sabre access.
My agency may be able to arrange ticketing, but it will be more expensive (1%~7% more, and even then that's if I do free service) than ticketing with the airline directly, and things need to be set up in a very convoluted way. FTers interested may PM me. Though I would rather not have to handle a case, I can and if someone really has no other way to get it done, we can try it.
#1107
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: SFOSJCOAK
Programs: AA-EXP & 1MM+, AS, MR-LTT, HH Gold
Posts: 7,609
#1108
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Melbourne
Programs: QF WP
Posts: 188
I’ve got a sort of interesting dilemma…booked and paid for a DONE4 ticketed by AA and after the latest ticket exchange I have eticket numbers from AA that don’t match online when I check for the eticket receipts on Finnair,Royal Jordanian and Qatar…..the one world alliance partners show the previous eticket numbers but not the current and yes, the itineraries are perfectly correct….On calling AA and requesting a call to the OneWorld help ticket i’ve had it confirmed that the alliance partners do in fact see the new eticket numbers….I’m concerned that I might had an issue on checkin on with the non AA flights….can anyone shed any light as to whether we will have any issues at checkin….many thanks
#1109
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
Programs: CX GO (=SPH), IHG Diamond Amb, Hertz 5*, Accor, Hilton, National
Posts: 6,441
I’ve got a sort of interesting dilemma…booked and paid for a DONE4 ticketed by AA and after the latest ticket exchange I have eticket numbers from AA that don’t match online when I check for the eticket receipts on Finnair,Royal Jordanian and Qatar…..the one world alliance partners show the previous eticket numbers but not the current and yes, the itineraries are perfectly correct….On calling AA and requesting a call to the OneWorld help ticket i’ve had it confirmed that the alliance partners do in fact see the new eticket numbers….I’m concerned that I might had an issue on checkin on with the non AA flights….can anyone shed any light as to whether we will have any issues at checkin….many thanks
#1110
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Melbourne
Programs: QF WP
Posts: 188
Ok so I rang BA who said they couldn’t see the newly issued eticket…I know that’s bull as previously had confirmation of one sector of the new eticket confirmed by BA….then called AA back and they contacted the Oneworld desk who confirmed that all Oneworld members using Amadeus could see the new eticket….so even though when requesting eticket confirmations from those members of the alliance that show you the eticket there is no reference to the newly exchanged ticket….AA confirm that in the event of an issue at checkin the agent can see the latest eticket….hope that’s correct 🙏