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wandering_fred Dec 12, 2015 7:10 am


Originally Posted by og (Post 25846706)
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I also asked if I could go to their office in person with the same Oz AX cc to pay for the ticket - and they said "no".

Will they take cash for an AA issued ticket?

Happy wandering

Fred

SNA_Flyer Dec 16, 2015 10:53 am

This probably has something to do with DCC which has been invading merchants in HKG... They are running your card and it's coming back as a AUD card so they are taking the position that it has to be charged in AUD and thus the AUD price.

Just call CX and book it. I have used them for years with no issue charging my US issued credit card. Sure the fuel fines may be slightly higher, but it's always been a good experience. You will have to call and give them the itinerary and a specialist will call you back to confirm and take payment.

anabolism Dec 16, 2015 7:15 pm


Originally Posted by SNA_Flyer (Post 25873814)
This probably has something to do with DCC which has been invading merchants in HKG...

What's DCC? Is it that box that offers to "helpfully" charge your card in your home currency?

moa999 Dec 16, 2015 8:15 pm


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 25876469)
What's DCC? Is it that box that offers to "helpfully" charge your card in your home currency?

Correct - very "helpfully" at up to a 10% surcharge.

Unfortunately also allows merchants to easily identify the home country of the card.

moa999 Dec 16, 2015 8:17 pm


Originally Posted by og (Post 25846706)
AA GSA in HKG recently refused to issue a carefully set up xCIRC29SA (by the AA RTW desk) with payment by an Oz billed AX card. I tried several times and each time they said they would be happy to issue the ticket but at the Oz price - because the CC is billed in Oz $. They said if I could quote a HKG billed card then they would issue the ticket at the HKG price.
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Very disturbing. Wonder if they would take a direct transfer - using one of the cheaper money transfer places - downside no points.

Gardyloo Jul 6, 2016 1:11 pm

2016-2018 Oneworld booking and pricing experiences
 
I'm starting this thread as a central point for people to share their recent experiences and outcomes in booking, or trying to book, Oneworld products including Oneworld Explorer, Global Explorer, various Circle tickets, etc.

This won't be a place-specific thread; feel free to record your experiences in booking or ticketing in any country for any Oneworld product.

Also be mindful that anyone can read these posts, including people within the industry, so use discretion when being overly specific, especially regarding the use of names, email contacts and the like. I won't hesitate to edit or remove posts that have the potential for negative consequences for FT members.

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ajnaro Jul 13, 2016 2:40 pm

If I understand correctly there's no need for this discussion anymore. Any oneworld product, in any currency, starting anywhere in the world can now be purchased from any oneworld carrier anywhere. The fare will simply be converted to the issuing location's currency and charged to any international credit card. It's as if the whole world became one big 'Canadian exception'. The restriction that the first segment segment carrier must issue the ticket (or vice versa) also seems to have disappeared. At least that seems to be the situation at the moment.

Gardyloo Jul 13, 2016 4:32 pm


Originally Posted by ajnaro (Post 26912421)
If I understand correctly there's no need for this discussion anymore. Any oneworld product, in any currency, starting anywhere in the world can now be purchased from any oneworld carrier anywhere. The fare will simply be converted to the issuing location's currency and charged to any international credit card. It's as if the whole world became one big 'Canadian exception'. The restriction that the first segment segment carrier must issue the ticket (or vice versa) also seems to have disappeared. At least that seems to be the situation at the moment.

I pulled up an old copy of the OWE rules (from late 2012 I believe) and it said this:

When travel originates in a country for which a specific local currency fares is published and the ticket is sold in another country, the fare will be that published for the country of origin converted to the currency of the country of sale at the bank selling rate. The resultant fare must not be lower than from the country of sale.
The current rule sheet says this:

When travel originates in a country for which a specific local currency fares is published and the ticket is sold in another country, the fare will be that published for the country of origin converted to the currency of the country of sale at the bank selling rate.
So yes, the "higher price" restriction has been removed.

The first-carrier-issuing-the-ticket "rule" has only applied to tickets bought using the online tool; it was never a rule enforced by the airlines when the ticket was booked manually.

ajnaro Jul 13, 2016 5:02 pm

OK, the rule sheet says: "When travel originates in a country for which a specific local currency fares is published and the ticket is sold in another country, the fare will be that published for the country of origin converted to the currency of the country of sale at the bank selling rate."

So what happens in a country where there is a specific local fare, but it's in dollars or some other currency? I can't remember this possibility ever having come up, but it must exist. And is there any significance to the fact that the phrase 'a specific local currency fareS' is in the plural (despite the singular 'a')?

pandaperth Jul 14, 2016 12:48 am


Originally Posted by ajnaro (Post 26913016)
OK, the rule sheet says: "When travel originates in a country for which a specific local currency fares is published and the ticket is sold in another country, the fare will be that published for the country of origin converted to the currency of the country of sale at the bank selling rate."

So what happens in a country where there is a specific local fare, but it's in dollars or some other currency? I can't remember this possibility ever having come up, but it must exist. And is there any significance to the fact that the phrase 'a specific local currency fareS' is in the plural (despite the singular 'a')?

I think the plural "fares" is just another case of sloppy editing. Checking back through my old rules sheets, it was there back as far as 2007.

But thank you for pointing out that the wording of this rule has changed - significantly IMHO. I am going to make a post the correct thread to give this wider dissemination (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...ule-sheet.html)

As for those countries whose fare quoted in a currency other than its own currency - IMHO there is no significance. For example, fares from Tanzania are quoted in USD, so if someone in Australia purchases an ex-Tanzania ticket the fare will simply be converted from USD to AUD at the BSR.

Himeno Jul 14, 2016 5:40 am


Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 26912928)
The first-carrier-issuing-the-ticket "rule" has only applied to tickets bought using the online tool; it was never a rule enforced by the airlines when the ticket was booked manually.

It was never a rule, just a limitation on the online tool to make programming it easier. However, some agents think it is a rule and I've been told at least once to go talk to another airline.
I contacted CX about a quote for a DAS13 (CBR-SYD-NRT-ITM-NRT-HKG-SIN-MEL), CX had the flights that touched HKG, QF/JL had the rest. The agent told me to go talk to QF since they had the first flight. They relented and gave the quote when I started reading the fare rules to them.

pbd456 Jul 18, 2016 8:35 pm

what is the best currency to get a quote on ex mpm? at usd, i think the roe is 58.xx and the base fare is a few hundred more expensive than expeetflyer.

aaupgrade Jul 20, 2016 2:55 am


Originally Posted by skipaway (Post 26941263)
How far into your trip are you aa? Do you plan to switch where you put your miles at 75K, if you are using AA as your FF program?

I'm only 3 segments into my trip which started in HND. I'm crediting my post Aug 1 AA flights and BA flights to BA in order to get BAEC Silver (OW Sapphire) by December (my membership year with them runs March-March). That way I'll go into my next membership year with BAEC Silver (Avios bonuses on BA and AA coded flights and US domestic lounge access) and on my way to BAEC Gold in 2017. I'll split my 2017 earnings between AA and BA with 75K RDMs going to AA and about 82K Avios.

FWIW, I'm AA LT Plat and buy domestic F most of the time (or F award) unless it's a really short flight. So the SWUs and higher up on domestic upgrade list aren't big sellers so I do not feel the need to go for EXP. I travel only 1-3 US domestic flights, so can't justify $450 for lounge access, so BAEC Silver/Gold will provide me the lounge access which is more of a plus, especially at IAD where there is no Admirals club but there is a BA lounge; F Lounges worldwide when traveling in J will be nice too.

danger Jul 20, 2016 7:16 am

As I mentioned in post 265 here I've been working with three Mozambique travel agents to see if they can correctly price a DONE5. As that thread is more about ex-CPT, I think this discussion is better suited to this thread.

I sent this itinerary for pricing: MPM-xDOH-CMN-DOH-CPH-xDOH-GRU-SCL-BOG-LIM-EZE-JFK-CUN-PHX-DFW-SYD-JNB.

Putting this itinerary into the oneworld booking tool but starting, for example, CPT-JNB-xDOH . . . and dropping one of the South American segments (in order to, (i) get a price with BA being the first carrier and, (ii) stay within the 16 stops) produces a valid itinerary so I believe the above is also valid.

The first agent has bowed out, it seemingly being too difficult for him. The other two have been very eager to assist and have admitted it's their first foray into the xONEx field.

One has come back saying she has been in touch with QR and they have advised: "The itinerary as it stands does not qualify for RTW product, due to following reason. Only 1 intercontinental departure and 1 intercontinental arrival permitted in Africa". The agent then included this image:

http://imgur.com/a/jvSnu

I went back to her saying the itinerary does indeed have only one intercontinental departure and arrival in Africa. She replied saying she would relay that to QR and get back in touch when she had more.

danger Jul 20, 2016 7:21 am


Originally Posted by danger (Post 26885631)
The three agents I'm in contact with have said they will be in touch. The first of these, whom I contacted almost three weeks ago, I'm doubtful will produce anything. The other two sound more encouraging.

If and when I get something I'll post again.

I've posted an update in post eight, here.


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