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Access Ready Reckoner:
* A "North American* Itinerary" for AAdvantage elites is travel on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean. A "North American* Itinerary" for Alaska Mileage Plan elites is travel to destinations in the U.S.A., Canada and Mexico (unless they are connecting to or from an international long-haul flight in a premium cabin on the same day).
Connecting the same day or before 6am the following day.

Qantas First Class Lounge for OneWorld Emeralds and First Class Travelers - opened late 2014
Qantas press release
Airside connector open from terminals 4, 5, 6 and 7 to TBIT - Feb 2016
LAX AA T-4 - TBIT secure airside connector open 25 Feb 2016 (AA forum)
2016 LAX Connecting / Connection / Connections thread
Updated 7 Mar 2017 - JDiver
For access just one of the following needs to be true:
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- Non US based (not AAdvantage and not Mileage Plan) oneworld Emerald or Sapphire tier traveling on a oneworld Marketed and operated flight.
- An AAdvantage or Mileage Plan of Sapphire or Emerald tier traveling on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight NOT solely part of a "North American* Itinerary".
- First & Business Class passengers traveling on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight not solely part of a "North American* Itinerary".
- Passengers on an itinerary which includes First & Business Class travel on a oneworld marketed and operated flight longer than five hours connecting to/from a domestic oneworld Marketed and Operated flight or an international short haul (five hours or less) oneworld Marketed and Operated flight.
- *Recent Reports indicate the following access is being denied with Patrons being redirected to the Flagship Lounge in T4*: First and Business Class passengers traveling on an American Airlines Marketed and Operated flight between Los Angeles & New York on three class aircraft.
Connecting the same day or before 6am the following day.
LAX oneworld Business and Qantas First Lounges
LAX / Los Angeles International Airport - Tom Bradley International Terminal (TBIT)
LAX / Los Angeles International Airport - Tom Bradley International Terminal (TBIT)
Location: Go airside via the North security check. Continue past the SkyTeam marked elevator / lift past the Star Alliance lounge signage and escalators to the main shops area and take the elevator to the oneworld Lounge on floor 5. (LAX / LAWA now allows passengers with same day departing boarding passes multi-terminal access.)

oneworld Los Angeles (Business) Lounge
Opening hours: Daily: 06:30 - 23:30
Capacity: ~400
AMENITIES:
Notes: The stylish and spacious Business Class Lounge has a contemporary design reflecting Californian culture, combined with signature elements from each airline, built around a communal fireplace and central glass atrium providing natural light. In the lounge's dining area, customers can choose from menus, designed by renowned Qantas chef Neil Perry, based on signature Qantas Lounge favourites with influences of multicultural California, including Italian, Mexican, Japanese, Chinese, Korean and US West Coast street food. Californian food carts similar to the pop-up dining concept offer freshly prepared dishes. At the cocktail bar, customers can select signature cocktails or premium wines, or have the barista create the coffee of their choice. The lounge also offers an enhanced hot and cold buffet, faster WiFi, new workstations and sixteen shower suites with Aurora Spa amenities.
Opening hours: Daily: 06:30 - 23:30
Capacity: ~400
AMENITIES:
- Computer connected to Internet
- Neil Perry dining and buffet (hot, cold, food carts)
- Full staffed bar and made to order mixed drinks
- Barista and coffee selections
- Shower suites (16)
Notes: The stylish and spacious Business Class Lounge has a contemporary design reflecting Californian culture, combined with signature elements from each airline, built around a communal fireplace and central glass atrium providing natural light. In the lounge's dining area, customers can choose from menus, designed by renowned Qantas chef Neil Perry, based on signature Qantas Lounge favourites with influences of multicultural California, including Italian, Mexican, Japanese, Chinese, Korean and US West Coast street food. Californian food carts similar to the pop-up dining concept offer freshly prepared dishes. At the cocktail bar, customers can select signature cocktails or premium wines, or have the barista create the coffee of their choice. The lounge also offers an enhanced hot and cold buffet, faster WiFi, new workstations and sixteen shower suites with Aurora Spa amenities.
Qantas First Lounge
Opening hours: Daily: 06:30 - 23:30
Capacity: ~200
AMENITIES:
Notes: The Qantas Los Angeles First Lounge defines a new standard of luxury and sophistication for First and eligible premium customers travelling through LAX. The spacious, light and open plan lounge is three times the size of the previous First Lounge. The lounge features a 74-seat a la carte restaurant, Californian Knoll furniture selected by Marc Newson, including 12 Eero Saarinen Womb Chairs with matching ottomans, 2 private work suites that can open into one larger private meeting room, state of the art wi-fi, wireless printing capabilities, TVs equipped with cable television and 7 dedicated shower suites, complete with Aurora Spa products. The a la carte Rockpool menu has been designed by Neil Perry, featuring signature dishes from the Qantas flagship Sydney and Melbourne lounges, as well as locally inspired LA cuisine. Menus will change seasonally, every 3 months. Access to First Class Lounges is restricted to Emerald members or those travelling in First Class.
Opening hours: Daily: 06:30 - 23:30
Capacity: ~200
AMENITIES:
- Computer connected to Internet
- Neil Perry restaurant (74 seats, a la carte dining)
- Full staffed bar and made to order mixed drinks
- Barista with coffee selections
- Shower suites (7)
- Business suites (2 - can be combined for conference room)
- Shirt pressing (First)
Notes: The Qantas Los Angeles First Lounge defines a new standard of luxury and sophistication for First and eligible premium customers travelling through LAX. The spacious, light and open plan lounge is three times the size of the previous First Lounge. The lounge features a 74-seat a la carte restaurant, Californian Knoll furniture selected by Marc Newson, including 12 Eero Saarinen Womb Chairs with matching ottomans, 2 private work suites that can open into one larger private meeting room, state of the art wi-fi, wireless printing capabilities, TVs equipped with cable television and 7 dedicated shower suites, complete with Aurora Spa products. The a la carte Rockpool menu has been designed by Neil Perry, featuring signature dishes from the Qantas flagship Sydney and Melbourne lounges, as well as locally inspired LA cuisine. Menus will change seasonally, every 3 months. Access to First Class Lounges is restricted to Emerald members or those travelling in First Class.
LAX TBIT oneworld lounges access rules: (v. Feb 25, 2016)
oneworld Business Lounge operated by Qantas
Please note this is not a Qantas Club and is not part of any recipripocity agreement with Admirals Clubs. Must be Sapphire or Business class passenger on a oneworld marketed and operated carrier ("qualifying flight") and
Qantas - oneworld First Lounge
Must be Emerald or First class passenger on a oneworld marketed and operated carrier ("qualifying flight") and
Link to one world lounge access rules and lounge locator
oneworld Business Lounge operated by Qantas
Please note this is not a Qantas Club and is not part of any recipripocity agreement with Admirals Clubs. Must be Sapphire or Business class passenger on a oneworld marketed and operated carrier ("qualifying flight") and
- Departing on a longhaul international flight, or
- Departing on a oneworld flight, having arrived on a qualifying longhaul international flight, or
- Departing in First or Business on AA to JFK on a 3 cabin A321T aircraft.
- A Qantas Club member (no AA Admirals Club reciprocity, however)
- "Some lounges may get busy at peak times, and access to them may be restricted as a result."
Qantas - oneworld First Lounge
Must be Emerald or First class passenger on a oneworld marketed and operated carrier ("qualifying flight") and
- Departing on a longhaul international flight, or
- Departing on a oneworld flight, having arrived on a qualifying longhaul international flight, or
- Departing in First on AA to JFK on a 3 cabin A321T.
Link to one world lounge access rules and lounge locator
Qantas press release
Airside connector open from terminals 4, 5, 6 and 7 to TBIT - Feb 2016
LAX AA T-4 - TBIT secure airside connector open 25 Feb 2016 (AA forum)
2016 LAX Connecting / Connection / Connections thread
Updated 7 Mar 2017 - JDiver
LAX - TBIT oneworld Lounge Access (Combined thread)
#301
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In my perspective, the Qantas First Lounge at LAX is like a cafeteria - my habit in recent years was to eat there before heading to the relative tranquillity of the Flagship Lounge to await my Qantas flight.
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I love a la carte dining so for me i really like it. I dont like buffets. I also dont think anything is good for the most part at any FL buffet. Hot stuff is never hot and temp is super important to me. Also, I think the LAX FL is by far the weakest of the FL's I love Miami. Its huge, its cold in one area if you want that but warmer in others if you like that. Has a better TV area that is more private. I love LA for the hot shower though. If FFD is included then I am onboard with what you said hands down.
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I'm in Y on LAX-MIA, One World Emerald via AA Platinum Pro. My wife is in J, but no status, so I don't think she can get me in with her, right?
So would our best or maybe only option be TBIT One World Business Lounge? Or is she not eligible because it's not international (or 3 class) on her own, but perhaps eligible as my guest if I can get in?
So would our best or maybe only option be TBIT One World Business Lounge? Or is she not eligible because it's not international (or 3 class) on her own, but perhaps eligible as my guest if I can get in?
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I'm in Y on LAX-MIA, One World Emerald via AA Platinum Pro. My wife is in J, but no status, so I don't think she can get me in with her, right?
So would our best or maybe only option be TBIT One World Business Lounge? Or is she not eligible because it's not international (or 3 class) on her own, but perhaps eligible as my guest if I can get in?
So would our best or maybe only option be TBIT One World Business Lounge? Or is she not eligible because it's not international (or 3 class) on her own, but perhaps eligible as my guest if I can get in?
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Agree. In this case, either you will both stay at the AC, or you and your wife will part ways after the entrance.
Currently, oneworld's website no longer specifically says North American "domestic" F and J pax are not allowed to enter the lounge, although I think they just forgot to put it there when they re-did the website. You can try your luck at the OW lounge, but I wouldn't count on being able to access.
Currently, oneworld's website no longer specifically says North American "domestic" F and J pax are not allowed to enter the lounge, although I think they just forgot to put it there when they re-did the website. You can try your luck at the OW lounge, but I wouldn't count on being able to access.
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I'm in Y on LAX-MIA, One World Emerald via AA Platinum Pro. My wife is in J, but no status, so I don't think she can get me in with her, right?
So would our best or maybe only option be TBIT One World Business Lounge? Or is she not eligible because it's not international (or 3 class) on her own, but perhaps eligible as my guest if I can get in?
So would our best or maybe only option be TBIT One World Business Lounge? Or is she not eligible because it's not international (or 3 class) on her own, but perhaps eligible as my guest if I can get in?
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I was wondering last week when I was flying to MIA if the premium transcon would get me in to the OW J lounge but I completely forgot to go try. I dont believe it would have. I even had to walk all the way to Bradley b/c the MIA red eye is now the same plane as the arriving London flight so its parked at Bradley. Totally forgot to go try at OW J lounge.
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Tried both the AA Flagship Lounge and the QF biz lounge last week at LAX. Not really a fan of either. Agree with Happiest_at_40000 that the LA lounge is definitely behind Miami (and New York), though I wasn't too wild about Dallas either. Or Chicago.
Anyway, really can't wait for the QF First lounge to reopen since without that or FFD, there really isn't any oneworld lounge in LAX that seems compelling. Actually my favorite meal last week was in the AC with BBQ chicken sliders (with coleslaw and pickles) and also the fresh guacamole they make in the afternoons. To my mind, those two items were better than any food available in the other two lounges.
Anyway, really can't wait for the QF First lounge to reopen since without that or FFD, there really isn't any oneworld lounge in LAX that seems compelling. Actually my favorite meal last week was in the AC with BBQ chicken sliders (with coleslaw and pickles) and also the fresh guacamole they make in the afternoons. To my mind, those two items were better than any food available in the other two lounges.
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Tried both the AA Flagship Lounge and the QF biz lounge last week at LAX. Not really a fan of either. Agree with Happiest_at_40000 that the LA lounge is definitely behind Miami (and New York), though I wasn't too wild about Dallas either. Or Chicago.
Anyway, really can't wait for the QF First lounge to reopen since without that or FFD, there really isn't any oneworld lounge in LAX that seems compelling. Actually my favorite meal last week was in the AC with BBQ chicken sliders (with coleslaw and pickles) and also the fresh guacamole they make in the afternoons. To my mind, those two items were better than any food available in the other two lounges.
Anyway, really can't wait for the QF First lounge to reopen since without that or FFD, there really isn't any oneworld lounge in LAX that seems compelling. Actually my favorite meal last week was in the AC with BBQ chicken sliders (with coleslaw and pickles) and also the fresh guacamole they make in the afternoons. To my mind, those two items were better than any food available in the other two lounges.
Dallas FL isnt much either I agree. Just one long rectangle. And they close the showers early which really stinks. They tried to tell me last month I couldnt shower at 920pm. I had to flight for 10 min and get a supervisor to be given a key. The water temp there is same with JFK & MIA though meaning not hot like LAX.
Outside of the shower not being hot (though its only hot at LA) I would take MIA FL as the best. Never been to Chicago FL
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For example, this morning I got an email to call in to change my flight due to severe thunderstorms in Charlotte, but my flight used an SWU, so its bucket C; two agents I spoke to indicated that theyd need C inventory to rebook me, which is also pretty stupid (and even wrong, I think, but Im not an expert). Anyway, there isnt going to be any C availability the day-of, and they couldnt even put me in coach, despite plenty of fares still being sold. I asked whether they could have revenue management work some magic behind the scenes (there was an award seat available, and I asked them to put it into C to solve this made-up problem), but the agent wasnt even willing to call over.
Its justwhy am I EP when I never get help when I need it? Lately, the primary benefit is that they answer the phone within two minutesto tell me to bend over.
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Two data points:
Denied entry at the J lounge with a LAX-JFK boarding pass in J. Agent had a binder ready with AA lounge rules that conveniently omitted the transcon carve-out. When I pulled up the current transcon lounge access rules on oneworld.com, the agent refused to engage on the basis that AA/OW had changed the rules.
According to the same agent, the F side is reopening in two weeks.
Denied entry at the J lounge with a LAX-JFK boarding pass in J. Agent had a binder ready with AA lounge rules that conveniently omitted the transcon carve-out. When I pulled up the current transcon lounge access rules on oneworld.com, the agent refused to engage on the basis that AA/OW had changed the rules.
According to the same agent, the F side is reopening in two weeks.
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Two data points:
Denied entry at the J lounge with a LAX-JFK boarding pass in J. Agent had a binder ready with AA lounge rules that conveniently omitted the transcon carve-out. When I pulled up the current transcon lounge access rules on oneworld.com, the agent refused to engage on the basis that AA/OW had changed the rules.
According to the same agent, the F side is reopening in two weeks.
Denied entry at the J lounge with a LAX-JFK boarding pass in J. Agent had a binder ready with AA lounge rules that conveniently omitted the transcon carve-out. When I pulled up the current transcon lounge access rules on oneworld.com, the agent refused to engage on the basis that AA/OW had changed the rules.
According to the same agent, the F side is reopening in two weeks.





