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moa999 Feb 27, 2012 1:16 am


Originally Posted by Awesom Andy (Post 18088293)
Can't see a budget airline being based in countries with such high labour/operating costs.

Like say Australia

Blackcloud Feb 27, 2012 5:31 pm


Originally Posted by Awesom Andy (Post 18088293)
Can't see a budget airline being based in countries with such high labour/operating costs.

Probably would try to wrangle an arrangement using lower cost Eatern European (there are some left) labour!:eek:

razMJ Feb 28, 2012 2:51 pm


Originally Posted by Blackcloud (Post 18093060)
Probably would try to wrangle an arrangement using lower cost Eatern European (there are some left) labour!:eek:

Like Ryanair eh?

Blackcloud Feb 28, 2012 8:51 pm


Originally Posted by razMJ (Post 18098953)
Like Ryanair eh?

Well I had to model my answer after a factual airline.;)
Pilots of course will come from low houred pilots with shiny jet syndrome that will be a pilot on a graduates starting wage just to fly in the silver jets.:p

Yaatri Mar 2, 2012 4:21 pm


Originally Posted by Catweazle (Post 18067329)
What I've always wondered about is how QFFs can earn points on China Eastern, when MU is with SkyTeam. No SCs, but not a bad start, millsdale!


Originally Posted by 123dd (Post 18071947)
MU and QF worked together long before MU joined ST.... It was more Chinese politics than airline decision.. Maybe MU want to be in the same alliance as CZ to compete with CA ad its subsidiaries...


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 18072010)
Or perhaps the CEO's personal preference...

As 123dd stated, agreements signed before an airline jojns an alliance do not suddenly disappear. There are many many examples of this. SKymiles flyers could redeem award on SQ even after SQ decided to join *Alliance. Delta flyers can still redeem their miles on Jet and Kingfisher.

Awesom Andy Mar 3, 2012 6:29 am


Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 18120918)
As 123dd stated, agreements signed before an airline jojns an alliance do not suddenly disappear.

MH seems to be going the other direction though, with their agreements with other airlines like Virgin Australia disappearing even before being admitted to the alliance.

Himeno Mar 3, 2012 9:41 am


Originally Posted by Awesom Andy (Post 18124031)
MH seems to be going the other direction though, with their agreements with other airlines like Virgin Australia disappearing even before being admitted to the alliance.

Which agreements? I doubt they are dropping all agreements with non oneworld members, just those that would conflict with another oneworld member (such as NH vs JL and DJ/VA vs QF).

ernestnywang Mar 3, 2012 11:02 am


Originally Posted by Awesom Andy (Post 18124031)
MH seems to be going the other direction though, with their agreements with other airlines like Virgin Australia disappearing even before being admitted to the alliance.

With QF being MH's sponsor, this should come quickly.

worldtraveller73 Mar 5, 2012 10:40 am

From a Star Alliance customer perspective, One World does seem to have lost their competitive advantage - there are just so many more partners in Star.

From a leisure traveller perspective, there is little incentive to want to switch or ride One World metal when Star will take you there, and get points.

Perhaps if I was in SYD or HKG or LHR, and One World was my only choice, then it would make more sense to be a part of their program, but it seems that the amount of metal available from Vancouver doesn't really suit my needs.

marcusnugg Mar 8, 2012 1:32 am


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 18054328)
Again, why would CX want to leave Oneworld?

I don't think CX is going to leave oneworld. CX is very committed to the alliance. Maybe because it doesn't make sense to ditch something they helped to create!

rurouni212 Mar 9, 2012 3:08 pm


Originally Posted by marcusnugg (Post 18158334)
I don't think CX is going to leave oneworld. CX is very committed to the alliance. Maybe because it doesn't make sense to ditch something they helped to create!

Agreed. Although the Air China joint ownership thing certainly makes things interesting, the only way I could see CX leaving oneworld is if the alliance was on the verge of collapse (which it is not).

moa999 Mar 9, 2012 10:30 pm


Originally Posted by worldtraveller73 (Post 18138386)
From a Star Alliance customer perspective, One World does seem to have lost their competitive advantage - there are just so many more partners in Star.

oneworld always suffered from less partners.
Would they had was general strength of quality airlines with good lounges

dimmedlights Mar 11, 2012 6:03 pm

OW 2 Thumbs down!

onobond Mar 12, 2012 10:03 am


Originally Posted by moa999 (Post 18171294)
oneworld always suffered from less partners.
Would they had was general strength of quality airlines with good lounges

The span in quality is higher in *A than in OW, IMO

Blackcloud Mar 12, 2012 2:33 pm


Originally Posted by onobond (Post 18184400)
The span in quality is higher in *A than in OW, IMO

I would agree with this now but not 10 years ago.
*A is becoming the alliance, if not already is. Of course it helps when you have hundereds of airlines:p Yes that is an exageration but I remember some *A liveries where the fuselage was painted in colours of member airlines....an A340-600 would struggle to have this scheme now.


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