XONEx and UK stopovers
Sep 1, 2011 | 5:40 am
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XONEx and UK stopovers
I am booking an DONE4 starting in either AMM or CPT with 2/3 connections via London, hopefully ticketed with AA.
With the high charges for UK departures it makes a big difference whether this is ticketed as connections or stopovers. Can anyone advise what would happen if I ticket originally as connections then date change after ticket issue to be stopovers? Would AA need to take the extra tax/APD at time of date change?
With the high charges for UK departures it makes a big difference whether this is ticketed as connections or stopovers. Can anyone advise what would happen if I ticket originally as connections then date change after ticket issue to be stopovers? Would AA need to take the extra tax/APD at time of date change?
Sep 1, 2011 | 5:55 am
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Yes, also you pay the reissue fee as well as the APD making it more expensive than ticketing it originally. Gone are the days when agents overlook transit/stopover discrepancies on tickets.
Sep 1, 2011 | 9:13 pm
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APD is 0 for as journey such as CDG-xLHR-SYD in Business Class. Change that to CDG-oLHR-SYD and APD goes up to 170.
This would be collected from you. Also, as this is a re-issue (change of routing), on a DONEx another UD$125 is payable. Finally, the Airline that does the re-issue is entitled to charge a service fee.
This would be collected from you. Also, as this is a re-issue (change of routing), on a DONEx another UD$125 is payable. Finally, the Airline that does the re-issue is entitled to charge a service fee.
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Sep 2, 2011 | 12:25 am
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(1) Prior to departure
(a) Changes to date/time/oneworld carrier/inventory changes are permitted provided
ticketed points remain the same. If the first flight coupon is being changed, and the
fare level has increased since ticket issuance, the difference between the old and
new fare will be charged. If the fare level has decreased since ticket issuance, no
refund will apply.
Exception: For fares originating in TC1, changes to the first international flight and
preceeding flights are not permitted less than seven days prior to the date of the first
ticketed flight.
(b) Changes other than to Date/time/oneworld carrier/inventory permitted at a charge of
USD125.00 per transaction. If the fare level has increased since ticket issuance, the
difference between the old and new fare will also be charged. If the fare level has
decreased since ticket issuance, no refund will apply.
(2) After Departure
(a) Date/time/oneworld carrier/inventory changes are permitted provided ticketed points
remain the same.
(b) Changes other than to Date/time/oneworld carrier/inventory permitted at a charge of
USD125.00 per transaction.
(c) No Show requires rebooking at a charge of USD125
(d) If the rerouting results in an increase to the number of continents or extra flight
segments previously charged, the ticket shall be recalculated. Ticket may be
reissued to any applicable Explorer fare validating all rules of the new fare except for
restrictions on retroactive use. Rerouting fee applies when the resulting fare is less
than or equal to the original fare. No refund applies. See Upgrading provisions when
recalculation results in a new fare basis at a higher value.
(a) Changes to date/time/oneworld carrier/inventory changes are permitted provided
ticketed points remain the same. If the first flight coupon is being changed, and the
fare level has increased since ticket issuance, the difference between the old and
new fare will be charged. If the fare level has decreased since ticket issuance, no
refund will apply.
Exception: For fares originating in TC1, changes to the first international flight and
preceeding flights are not permitted less than seven days prior to the date of the first
ticketed flight.
(b) Changes other than to Date/time/oneworld carrier/inventory permitted at a charge of
USD125.00 per transaction. If the fare level has increased since ticket issuance, the
difference between the old and new fare will also be charged. If the fare level has
decreased since ticket issuance, no refund will apply.
(2) After Departure
(a) Date/time/oneworld carrier/inventory changes are permitted provided ticketed points
remain the same.
(b) Changes other than to Date/time/oneworld carrier/inventory permitted at a charge of
USD125.00 per transaction.
(c) No Show requires rebooking at a charge of USD125
(d) If the rerouting results in an increase to the number of continents or extra flight
segments previously charged, the ticket shall be recalculated. Ticket may be
reissued to any applicable Explorer fare validating all rules of the new fare except for
restrictions on retroactive use. Rerouting fee applies when the resulting fare is less
than or equal to the original fare. No refund applies. See Upgrading provisions when
recalculation results in a new fare basis at a higher value.
I've changed dates, times and carriers on xONEx's a number of times. I've never been charged anything for it.
Sep 2, 2011 | 3:11 pm
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I thought that changing a transfer (X) to a stopover (O) is considered re-routing. Is this not the case for xONEx?
Sep 2, 2011 | 5:31 pm
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http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...opover+reissue
Sep 4, 2011 | 10:03 pm
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Changing a transit (x) to a stopover (o) or vv is indeed a routing change.
As far as GDS's is concerned, the effective routing is changing from CDG-SYD to CDG-LHR-SYD; Transit ports are not part of the 'effective' route.
As far as GDS's is concerned, the effective routing is changing from CDG-SYD to CDG-LHR-SYD; Transit ports are not part of the 'effective' route.
Last edited by serfty; Sep 4, 2011 at 10:16 pm