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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 5:25 pm
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Originally Posted by serfty
I am not missing the point of the OP.

The crux of the matter is additional allowance over the standard. As per the OP:
Dave is right, I am talking about allowing elites to have an overage. If my first post was not clear, then I am clarifying it now.

I definitely believe that airlines should be able to have whatever baggage policy they want to have. However I also think that airline alliances should offer added benefits for elite members so that traveling on multi-carrier itineraries, which is the point of forming an alliance anyway, is simple and seamless.
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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 6:20 pm
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Originally Posted by SQPPS
I fly first class all the time but what happens if your first sector is an RJ business class sector and your next flight is a First Class sector on CX?

With Star Alliance, the problem is alleviated because the 30kg allowance you normally would receive on the first business class sector flights magically becomes 50kg, which is 10kg over your standard 40kg F class allowance.

The point is - ALLIANCES are there to make things seamless. Right?
How is it any less seamless as it is? If there was additional allowance there would still be an issue since the "standard" allowance would be 60Kg for 1st for someone with status but the 1st flight would still have the issue of there being only 50Kg and there would still be issues of not being able to check 60Kg in on the 1st flight.

Whether the allowance is 30Kg and then 40Kg vs 50 Kg and 60Kg there are no seams being removed by increasing the baggage allowance
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Old Dec 12, 2010 | 4:47 pm
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Originally Posted by SQPPS
Dave is right, I am talking about allowing elites to have an overage. If my first post was not clear, then I am clarifying it now.
If that is the case then your first post definitely does not represent your intention. You refer to having to pay additional for being overweight on CX even though you are BA Silver. If your travel had been on a *A carrier then you would have had the *G additional benefit in play:
Originally Posted by SQPPS
As I have been mulling splitting up my flying between *A and oneworld and achieving Emerald status this month, the thing that kills me is the lack of a oneworld baggage policy. I have several top tier *A gold cards and a oneworld sapphire card.

I usually take extended trips or pick up things along the way and having an extra 20kg or a guaranteed extra piece removes any hassle or worry at the airport. Furthermore, its is totally uniform, never argued and a real Star Gold benefit.

I recently flew MNL/HKG on CX and got tagged for being 10kg over the limit. My BA sapphire card did nothing to help. Had I been on a Star carrier, it wouldn't have even been noticed.

Why does oneworld fail to have some sort of baggage policy for elites? I think this is horribly uncompetitive with Star Alliance and the baggage policy has actually been the decisive factor for me on ALL of my HKG/PEK flying this year, some 40,000 bucks worth, which I have put on CA.

Does anyone in this forum think its about time OW got a baggage policy together?
The only *A specific policy for elites is the mentioned additional piece or weight for *G. That's it.

Moreover, *A does not have a uniform baggage policy; travel on differing *A airlines in differing classes can have various free/paid allocations. The *G benefit is additional to these varied policies.

Originally Posted by SQPPS
... I definitely believe that airlines should be able to have whatever baggage policy they want to have. However I also think that airline alliances should offer added benefits for elite members so that traveling on multi-carrier itineraries, which is the point of forming an alliance anyway, is simple and seamless.
Forgetting alliances, different airlines have varied policies for baggage. For example, one frequent facet is the ability to have the highest available allowance of the segment on the one ticket. Same refine this further and allow this for connecting flights only - but none of that is alliance related.

To summarise - *A allow *G to have additional free checked luggage over a individual segment/journey whenever travelling on *A carriers. The actual free allowance can still vary between the *A airlines.

*O have no such facility.

In all cases the basic free limit can vary with differing airline policies; this is not an Alliance issue.
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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 12:15 am
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Originally Posted by serfty
To summarise - *A allow *G to have additional free checked luggage over a individual segment/journey whenever travelling on *A carriers. The actual free allowance can still vary between the *A airlines.

*O have no such facility.

In all cases the basic free limit can vary with differing airline policies; this is not an Alliance issue.
Absolutely. That is what I was alluding to. The OP originally was wanting a "uniform baggage policy" and was also later talking about a "seamless and simple" situation with Star

There is nothing that makes the Star policy any more seamless or simple or any more uniform than One World. The reality to me is that the OP doesn't want simplicity , just to be able to take extra for free

I would be surprised to see OW offer a uniform allowance across all cariers and I would not like to see that since would likely lose the benefits such as being able to take 3x32 Kg on BA ; also I cannot see why OW would want to offer a benefit which has a direct money loss to the carriers ; other benefits generally have a low cost to provide whilst allowing 10Kg could be a loss of $400 of revenue to an airline

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Old Dec 13, 2010 | 12:56 am
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I'm going to agree with Dave Noble on this one.

Extra luggage is a perk I hardly ever use. Most serious travellers pack with what they need and don't take the kitchen sink with them. If you are doing a big presentation, it's usually better that you send the equipment separately anyhow via courier as it saves lugging things to the airport.

My biggest concern is that we would loose the benefits that we do have in OW in exchange for gaining an extra 10kg luggage allowance.
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