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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 11:20 pm
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When nonstop SFO-MAD?

With the number of Spanish companies doing business in the US West Coast, how is it possible that AA or IB don't have a SFO-MAD nonstop?

Apart from that, given the saturation of some European hubs (LHR anyone?, AMS, CDG, ...) having an alternative through the new T4 at MAD will steal a number of European passengers from other routes.

Any ideas on how to convey this message to the airlines?

Many thanks,

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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 11:31 pm
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I dont even think that there is a LAX-MAD nonstop at the moment , so I would have thought the odds of SFO-MAD would not be good as most airlines tend to serve LAX ahead of SFO .
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MAD is Europe's busiest airport without US West Coast service. Fingers always crossed for future service!
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 3:28 am
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AA does not have a large operation at SFO, only goes to the hubs DFW, ORD, MIA, and JFK. The only point to point route they have is to HNL. They do have some direct service from LAX to places in Europe.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 8:19 am
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Iberia had a MAD-LAX route many years ago (I'm thinking ~20?) which was dropped. There have been rumors of its return from time to time (even last year) but with AA/BA/IB ATI pending I'd be surprised to hear any new route announcements from any of those carriers until ATI is granted, the AA/BA joint business venture is running, and the IB/BA merger is farther along.

I don't think anyone has a good idea how service to individual cities will be affected once ATI is done; since LHR on AA and BA is the only nonstop European destination from LAX offered by OW airlines (since EI exited with their DUB service) it's anybody's guess how access to Europe will change over the next year or two. Oneworld is getting smoked on west coast < > Europe service at present.
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Originally Posted by buckeyefanflyer
since LHR on AA and BA is the only nonstop European destination from LAX offered by OW airlines (since EI exited with their DUB service) it's anybody's guess how access to Europe will change over the next year or two. Oneworld is getting smoked on west coast < > Europe service at present.
It is more the other way round. There only is a LAX-LHR for OW but there are other point to point flights from SFO than just to HNL.

Now that Gardyloo has put it this way it is indeed very surprising. Not much of a footprint there. The onworld map shows a flight SFO-CDG but I couldn't find anything in the timetable.
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 9:37 am
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Originally Posted by buckeyefanflyer
AA does not have a large operation at SFO, only goes to the hubs DFW, ORD, MIA, and JFK. The only point to point route they have is to HNL. They do have some direct service from LAX to places in Europe.
you forgot SFO-BOS
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 5:26 pm
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Welcome to Flyer Talk paul malone

Since you are new here you may not have realised that cross-posting (posting the same thing to multiple forums) is not allowed.
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