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Old Aug 2, 2019, 5:03 pm
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Beware of non government 3rd party look-a-like web sites that charge more, often found with a browser web search. Only the New Zealand government web site (govt.nz) issues a visa/NZeTA. These other scam-deceptive web sites just send your data to the NZ Govt web site. Some of these sites may have a disclaimer in the fine print.

NZ Government link ---> Check if you need a visitor visa or an NZeTA
NZ Government link ---> Request an NZeTA {as at 05 Aug 2019} Please note that travellers from visa waiver or transit visa waiver countries who are in transit through New Zealand are required to hold an NZeTA.
  • From 1 October 2019, if you are from a visa waiver country you must request an NZeTA before you travel. It costs NZD$9 on our free app, or NZD$12 if completed online.
  • You must also pay an International Visitor Conservation and Tourism Levy (IVL). The IVL costs NZD $35 and is paid at the same time as the NZeTA.
NZ Government link --->NZ Traveller Declaration On line or phone app. An option to the paper arrival form.

NZ Government web sites. Note: Check for yourself. The requirements and links may change
Link---> https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-...a/visitor-visa
Link---> https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-...out-visa/nzeta
Link---> https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-...sa/visa-waiver
Link---> https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-...sit-passengers Transit passengers

Refer to post 23 below

Wikipedia --> Visa policy of New Zealand This may be accurate nor does it replace official NZ Government information

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Old Aug 9, 2019, 5:05 am
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Now tiny NZ wants to join the big boys club and require an ETA too ? If we allow this to continue then every country big or small will require a separate ETA making travel more complex and costly.
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Old Sep 12, 2019, 9:27 pm
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one question about transit ETA, how could NZ immigration know if you transit in NZ and don't go through immigration?

Does transit pax pay NZ$9 for nothing?
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Old Sep 12, 2019, 9:31 pm
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Originally Posted by freed0m
one question about transit ETA, how could NZ immigration know if you transit in NZ and don't go through immigration?

Does transit pax pay NZ$9 for nothing?
You won't be allowed to board without it
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Old Sep 12, 2019, 9:45 pm
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You won't be allowed to board without it
I understand this point. But just feel like a daylight robbery.
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Old Sep 12, 2019, 9:57 pm
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I understand this point. But just feel like a daylight robbery.
Vote with your feet and transit somewhere not New Zealand (nor Australia) next time

HK imposes HK$180 construction duty on transit pax too
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Old Sep 12, 2019, 10:41 pm
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Originally Posted by freed0m
one question about transit ETA, how could NZ immigration know if you transit in NZ and don't go through immigration?

Does transit pax pay NZ$9 for nothing?
Airlines send data on all passengers to the government/governments

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Vote with your feet and transit somewhere not New Zealand (nor Australia) next time

HK imposes HK$180 construction duty on transit pax too
USA also has a fee for the visa waver ESTA, so another country to exclude on transit. No international to international airside transit in USA

Airline tickets have many government fees/taxes, even in transit. Because they are not identified most pax know nothing about them.
Australia has Au$60 tax on all departing passengers. 99% do not know they are paying that. For my common Aust<--->NZ trips I pay (on average) Au$114 on Aust to NZ flights and NZ$54 in NZ to Aust flights in real government taxes, fees & levies (Au passport).

If NZ had increased the departure/arrival tax for all people by, say NZ$20, passengers would never have noticed (or cared).

It was a political decision to have a targeted international visitor levy. To do that they they put a NZeTA over the top, so to identify the targets. The costs to administer all this are very high. The IVL is for a Shane Jonesish type [-~Provincial Growth Fund] slush fund to spend this money (after costs) on infrastructure tourists may use. Instead of local governments spending local taxpayers money.
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Originally Posted by percysmith
Vote with your feet and transit somewhere not New Zealand (nor Australia) next time

HK imposes HK$180 construction duty on transit pax too
At least transit pax use airport facilities. They should bear some cost. Not for transit NZeTA, it is really money for nothing.

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Airlines send data on all passengers to the government/governments


USA also has a fee for the visa waver ESTA, so another country to exclude on transit. No international to international airside transit in USA

Airline tickets have many government fees/taxes, even in transit. Because they are not identified most pax know nothing about them.
Australia has Au$60 tax on all departing passengers. 99% do not know they are paying that. For my common Aust<--->NZ trips I pay (on average) Au$114 on Aust to NZ flights and NZ$54 in NZ to Aust flights in real government taxes, fees & levies (Au passport).

If NZ had increased the departure/arrival tax for all people by, say NZ$20, passengers would never have noticed (or cared).

It was a political decision to have a targeted international visitor levy. To do that they they put a NZeTA over the top, so to identify the targets. The costs to administer all this are very high. The IVL is for a Shane Jonesish type [-~Provincial Growth Fund] slush fund to spend this money (after costs) on infrastructure tourists may use. Instead of local governments spending local taxpayers money.
It is eaiser to swallow IVL, as you enter NZ.

If instead of ETA, it is departure/arrival tax, it applies to all, citizens or foreigners.

Transit ETA is really just levy to transit NZ, nothing else. You pay money for nothing.
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Old Sep 12, 2019, 11:13 pm
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Originally Posted by freed0m
Transit ETA is really just levy to transit NZ, nothing else. You pay money for nothing.
Australian & NZ passport holders will not pay extra to transit ^
Other countries, have taxes/fees/levies in transit. NZ does now. You just do not know they exist.
This is a very political tax with very high cost to administer.

Come 01 October I expect there will be many passengers having trouble boarding, as they have not applied for the NZeTA-IVL
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Old Sep 12, 2019, 11:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
Australian & NZ passport holders will not pay extra to transit ^
Other countries, have taxes/fees/levies in transit. NZ does now. You just do not know they exist.
This is a very political tax with very high cost to administer.

Come 01 October I expect there will be many passengers having trouble boarding, as they have not applied for the NZeTA-IVL
Other countries don't disguise taxes/fees/levies as eTA...

If you charge people for nothing, at least make it clear. Don't hide it under eTA. just call it transit levy...
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Originally Posted by freed0m
Other countries don't disguise taxes/fees/levies as eTA...
If you charge people for nothing, at least make it clear. Don't hide it under eTA. just call it transit levy...
No different from USA ESTA.
Other countries just hide taxes/fees/levies in airline tickets. These have a very low cost to administer.
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Old Sep 12, 2019, 11:47 pm
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Originally Posted by freed0m
Other countries don't disguise taxes/fees/levies as eTA...

If you charge people for nothing, at least make it clear. Don't hide it under eTA. just call it transit levy...
Even if they put the NZ$9 in the transit airfare like UK Passenger Services Charge, that doesn't relieve the passenger from having to obtain pre-clearance to transit NZ.
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Old Sep 12, 2019, 11:55 pm
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Even if they put the NZ$9 in the transit airfare like UK Passenger Services Charge, that doesn't relieve the passenger from having to obtain pre-clearance to transit NZ.
Actually what's the extra cost for NZ government so that it has to charge a fee for transit passengers?

I can understand eTA for entering NZ, but for transit?
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Old Sep 16, 2019, 9:31 pm
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Actually what's the extra cost for NZ government so that it has to charge a fee for transit passengers?

I can understand eTA for entering NZ, but for transit?

The Pacific has a major problem with drug and people trafficking, and a quickly growing problem with organised crime in general. Being able to screen before arrival *or transit* helps in efforts against that.
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Old Sep 16, 2019, 9:48 pm
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The Pacific has a major problem with drug and people trafficking, and a quickly growing problem with organised crime in general. Being able to screen before arrival *or transit* helps in efforts against that.
screen by who? for transit, there is no NZ immigration.
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Old Sep 16, 2019, 9:55 pm
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Originally Posted by freed0m
Screen by who? for transit, there is no NZ immigration.
NZ Immigration will screen.
Its also for people who may claim political asylum. Or have a poor history of border compliance. NZ immigration policies are a lot weaker than many other countries, partially Australia.
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