Gate Agent Extorted $100 From Me!
#61
Join Date: Apr 2002
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IndustrialPatent...Here's another NW employee who recognizes the value of your continued presence on our planes. I was not in time to read your original post before you deleted it, but sincerely hope that you receive some sort of satisfaction from NW. Thanks also to VegasAgent, who posts informative and easy to understand explanations.
#62
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#63
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On Friday I received a response from NW... it's short and states that when Consumer Service has told you an issue is closed, NW considers it dead & theres no reason to follow-up on it
Fine. If a Consumer Service agent suggests Im a high-maintenance consumer and itd be mutually beneficial if I took my business elsewhere, then Ill follow his/her advice. Like I said, Ive had a string of positive flights with AA they recently upgraded my status from Gold to Platinum even though Ive only flown about 16,000 miles with them this year. AA wants my business; NW does not.
More than 10,000 excellent employees of NW have lost their jobs. Its a shame the Consumer Service agent I initially spoke with wasnt one of them.
Fine. If a Consumer Service agent suggests Im a high-maintenance consumer and itd be mutually beneficial if I took my business elsewhere, then Ill follow his/her advice. Like I said, Ive had a string of positive flights with AA they recently upgraded my status from Gold to Platinum even though Ive only flown about 16,000 miles with them this year. AA wants my business; NW does not.
More than 10,000 excellent employees of NW have lost their jobs. Its a shame the Consumer Service agent I initially spoke with wasnt one of them.
#64
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by IndustrialPatent:
On Friday I received a response from NW... it's short and states that when Consumer Service has told you an issue is closed, NW considers it dead & theres no reason to follow-up on it
Fine. If a Consumer Service agent suggests Im a high-maintenance consumer and itd be mutually beneficial if I took my business elsewhere, then Ill follow his/her advice. Like I said, Ive had a string of positive flights with AA they recently upgraded my status from Gold to Platinum even though Ive only flown about 16,000 miles with them this year. AA wants my business; NW does not.
More than 10,000 excellent employees of NW have lost their jobs. Its a shame the Consumer Service agent I initially spoke with wasnt one of them.</font>
On Friday I received a response from NW... it's short and states that when Consumer Service has told you an issue is closed, NW considers it dead & theres no reason to follow-up on it
Fine. If a Consumer Service agent suggests Im a high-maintenance consumer and itd be mutually beneficial if I took my business elsewhere, then Ill follow his/her advice. Like I said, Ive had a string of positive flights with AA they recently upgraded my status from Gold to Platinum even though Ive only flown about 16,000 miles with them this year. AA wants my business; NW does not.
More than 10,000 excellent employees of NW have lost their jobs. Its a shame the Consumer Service agent I initially spoke with wasnt one of them.</font>
The REALLY sad part is the total incompetence of marketing / IT that a little basic data mining did now show this change of a 10 year pattern and actually generate at least a form letter!
Trust me IP, you will feel much more love and respect from AA
#65
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Las Vegas, NV USA
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by IndustrialPatent:
On Friday I received a response from NW... it's short and states that when Consumer Service has told you an issue is closed, NW considers it dead & theres no reason to follow-up on it
Fine. If a Consumer Service agent suggests Im a high-maintenance consumer and itd be mutually beneficial if I took my business elsewhere, then Ill follow his/her advice. Like I said, Ive had a string of positive flights with AA they recently upgraded my status from Gold to Platinum even though Ive only flown about 16,000 miles with them this year. AA wants my business; NW does not.
More than 10,000 excellent employees of NW have lost their jobs. Its a shame the Consumer Service agent I initially spoke with wasnt one of them.</font>
On Friday I received a response from NW... it's short and states that when Consumer Service has told you an issue is closed, NW considers it dead & theres no reason to follow-up on it
Fine. If a Consumer Service agent suggests Im a high-maintenance consumer and itd be mutually beneficial if I took my business elsewhere, then Ill follow his/her advice. Like I said, Ive had a string of positive flights with AA they recently upgraded my status from Gold to Platinum even though Ive only flown about 16,000 miles with them this year. AA wants my business; NW does not.
More than 10,000 excellent employees of NW have lost their jobs. Its a shame the Consumer Service agent I initially spoke with wasnt one of them.</font>
#66




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IP,
I'm sorry to hear that things didn't work out with NW. I think I can understand how you feel. When we are dealing with businesses as a customer, few things are worse than feeling that we've been treated in bad faith and have been deliberately cheated. The ill will generated by such treatment stays with us for a long, long time. I had an experience with ANA several years ago in which I was essentially cheated out of $20, far less than the $100 you lost to NW, but it was the way I was treated that has stayed with me. I had purchased some tickets after having scoured all the published rules and having confirmed with an ANA check-in agent that the tickets were fully refundable. When I later tried to cancel and get my refund, the agent I spoke with at that time had a different interpretation of the rules and insisted that I should pay a fee of $20. She would not budge, and I was a hapless college student and exhausted after a day of travel and did not feel like arguing in Japanese (it was a domestic flight, with non-English speaking agents), so I grudgingly paid the $20. But the experience left such a bad taste in my mouth (after having made strenuous efforts to confirm that the tickets were 100% refundable), that I now scrupulously avoid ANA on my international and domestic Japanese flights (and have had many flights on JAL and JAS).
Isn't it amazing how businesses will p*ss off a customer for a few bucks today, even at the cost of thousands of dollars of future revenue?
I'm sorry to hear that things didn't work out with NW. I think I can understand how you feel. When we are dealing with businesses as a customer, few things are worse than feeling that we've been treated in bad faith and have been deliberately cheated. The ill will generated by such treatment stays with us for a long, long time. I had an experience with ANA several years ago in which I was essentially cheated out of $20, far less than the $100 you lost to NW, but it was the way I was treated that has stayed with me. I had purchased some tickets after having scoured all the published rules and having confirmed with an ANA check-in agent that the tickets were fully refundable. When I later tried to cancel and get my refund, the agent I spoke with at that time had a different interpretation of the rules and insisted that I should pay a fee of $20. She would not budge, and I was a hapless college student and exhausted after a day of travel and did not feel like arguing in Japanese (it was a domestic flight, with non-English speaking agents), so I grudgingly paid the $20. But the experience left such a bad taste in my mouth (after having made strenuous efforts to confirm that the tickets were 100% refundable), that I now scrupulously avoid ANA on my international and domestic Japanese flights (and have had many flights on JAL and JAS).
Isn't it amazing how businesses will p*ss off a customer for a few bucks today, even at the cost of thousands of dollars of future revenue?
#67
Join Date: Jan 2002
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IP, good luck on AA. They would be my second choice for a primary program after NW, with their international upgrades and MRTC everywhere. However, "NW has been beddy beddy good to me," to borrow from Garrett Morris, so here I am.
Here's hoping you stick around on the NW forum - your incisive humor is much appreciated! Not to mention your vast knowledge of NW history, schedules, etc.....are you really going to give it up? Say it ain't so? I fully understand your decision, but if it were me, I'd go up the ladder....if the facts are as you say, and I echo Vegas Agent's take that we have no reason to doubt it, clearly NW has a big customer service problem that they must address before they bleed too many Platinums like you and B. Watson. Somebody there has to listen to you! Find a supervisor somewhere.... Even if it costs them $100 and some condolence miles to you, somebody there must understand the ticket revenue loss? We hope!!!
Here's hoping you stick around on the NW forum - your incisive humor is much appreciated! Not to mention your vast knowledge of NW history, schedules, etc.....are you really going to give it up? Say it ain't so? I fully understand your decision, but if it were me, I'd go up the ladder....if the facts are as you say, and I echo Vegas Agent's take that we have no reason to doubt it, clearly NW has a big customer service problem that they must address before they bleed too many Platinums like you and B. Watson. Somebody there has to listen to you! Find a supervisor somewhere.... Even if it costs them $100 and some condolence miles to you, somebody there must understand the ticket revenue loss? We hope!!!
#68


Join Date: Sep 1999
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What about a letter to the Conde Nast magazine Ombudsman column? They might decline to deal with your issue because they usually deal with problems that involve bigger losses, but they are a powerful media outlet for frustrating experience like the one you've had...

