I hate DTW
#16
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Originally Posted by kcnwa
I fly out of DTW and into DTW every week. I love it
I love the WC's. I love the layout. I love (usually) the people working there.
Don't blame weather issues on DTW. Try ORD if you don't like DTW
Sorry your times in DTW were differnet!
I love the WC's. I love the layout. I love (usually) the people working there. Don't blame weather issues on DTW. Try ORD if you don't like DTW

Sorry your times in DTW were differnet!
PS Hope I get out of ORD on time tonight...
#17


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Originally Posted by kcnwa
Try ORD if you don't like DTW 

#18

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Is there a better hub?
Given my nightmarish experiences at ORD and IAD, DTW has been incredible.
Now, I remember the dark days of the early 1990s, when MSP was the "modern" hub in the NW system, so maybe that is coloring my view.
But is there a better hub in the US today? Atlanta, Chicago, Dallas -- all stink. I've had pretty good luck with Denver, but it is easier to just take a transcon than connect to the east coast through DEN. Is there something better?
Now, I remember the dark days of the early 1990s, when MSP was the "modern" hub in the NW system, so maybe that is coloring my view.
But is there a better hub in the US today? Atlanta, Chicago, Dallas -- all stink. I've had pretty good luck with Denver, but it is easier to just take a transcon than connect to the east coast through DEN. Is there something better?
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DTW is an outstanding hub. The nearly brand new, spacious, clean, generally well climate controlled A concourse, the WorldClubs, the decent restaurants, the fountain (or watersculpture or whatever), the tram, the lack of delays, and, of course, the Oraoxygen spa all make DTW a great place to connect. The only time I had a problem there was getting stranded overnight by a blizzard - fortunately was able to secure a room at the Westin.
This thread made me think about all other major hubs, and I have to say that overall I think DTW is the best hub of any US carrier. I'm a CO flyer and really like our hubs. I like EWR in the sense that the C concourses are modern, the Presidents Clubs are nice, and the selection of international nonstops is great. But the delays are so bad it renders the airport largely useless to me for domestic travel (I live in DC). CLE is great because it has few delays and decent transcon offerings, but the terminal is small and it only has one transcontinental flight, that currently only operates seasonally (CLE-LGW). IAH, IMO, also is a great airport, but the only truly nice area is the new E concourse and adjacent areas.
What else is out there? ORD - puh-leeez. ATL and CVG are stuck in the late 80's/early 90's, with ATL generally being worse. DEN is ok, but I don't really fly UA much. DFW is a nightmare; PHL is no prize. CLT is ok. MSP is stuck in the late 80s.
DTW may not have as many international departures as other carriers' hubs, and the weather might get a bit dodgy in the winter. But all things considered, including the terminal, destinations served, frequencies, the restaurants, hotel, WorldClubs, stores, and Oraoxygen, I think DTW very well may be the best fortress hub in the US.
This thread made me think about all other major hubs, and I have to say that overall I think DTW is the best hub of any US carrier. I'm a CO flyer and really like our hubs. I like EWR in the sense that the C concourses are modern, the Presidents Clubs are nice, and the selection of international nonstops is great. But the delays are so bad it renders the airport largely useless to me for domestic travel (I live in DC). CLE is great because it has few delays and decent transcon offerings, but the terminal is small and it only has one transcontinental flight, that currently only operates seasonally (CLE-LGW). IAH, IMO, also is a great airport, but the only truly nice area is the new E concourse and adjacent areas.
What else is out there? ORD - puh-leeez. ATL and CVG are stuck in the late 80's/early 90's, with ATL generally being worse. DEN is ok, but I don't really fly UA much. DFW is a nightmare; PHL is no prize. CLT is ok. MSP is stuck in the late 80s.
DTW may not have as many international departures as other carriers' hubs, and the weather might get a bit dodgy in the winter. But all things considered, including the terminal, destinations served, frequencies, the restaurants, hotel, WorldClubs, stores, and Oraoxygen, I think DTW very well may be the best fortress hub in the US.
Last edited by CO 1E; Jun 8, 2006 at 7:13 pm Reason: spelling
#20
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: PBI
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Originally Posted by pickinp
We pulled away from the gate only to sit on the tarmac for 25 minutes, waiting for our turn to take off, and for an issue with cargo to be hammered out by lawyers.
And like umguy said, you should have been in the old craphole terminal...
heck, you should have worked there, in the old F concourse with 3 full widebodies in F9, F12 and F14, two of them with a mechanical delay during a thunderstorm when nobody is allowed on the tarmac to either fix or load the airplanes...now that was FUN!
sorry about your troubles at the airport though and better luck next time.
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It does seem weather is your issue. I always try to book my connections through dtw versus mem or msp because it is such a great airport! From the world clubs to huge tvs at the gates to tons of restaurants - it is my airport of choice.
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Originally Posted by kcnwa
I fly out of DTW and into DTW every week. I love it
I love the WC's. I love the layout. I love (usually) the people working there.
Don't blame weather issues on DTW. Try ORD if you don't like DTW
Sorry your times in DTW were differnet!
I love the WC's. I love the layout. I love (usually) the people working there. Don't blame weather issues on DTW. Try ORD if you don't like DTW

Sorry your times in DTW were differnet!
#23
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DTW is by far my favorite NW hub. However, I wish they would scatter some high-speed internet terminals throughout the terminal just like they have in MSP. I enjoy being able to get ahead on my e-mail while I'm waiting for a flight. The only option for that at DTW is the Online Cafe (I think that's right).
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Originally Posted by umguy
WOW you must have never had went to the OLD DTW. Now that was bad.
#25




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After so many years of customer complaints and dealing with the poor condition of the old Davey terminal, I bet some civic leaders around here would love to read this thread!
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Wow, very surprising to see a thread like this.
DTW has to be one of the nicest major airports in the country where one can connect.
DTW has to be one of the nicest major airports in the country where one can connect.
#27
Join Date: May 2000
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DTW is one of the best airports....
I fly NWA BECAUSE of DTW airport. It doesn't have the food selection of MSP (but I still get there regularly too), but it CLEARLY is better than ORD. In fact, I joke that DTW has become my home away from home.
My favorite moment was when a late flight was delayed two hours and about six of us were the only non-workers in either terminal. Very surreal, but fun to walk around (though security doesn't allow people into the north half of Terminal A after hours.
TD
My favorite moment was when a late flight was delayed two hours and about six of us were the only non-workers in either terminal. Very surreal, but fun to walk around (though security doesn't allow people into the north half of Terminal A after hours.
TD
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I love DTW....It's Detroit that I can't stand.
#29
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Originally Posted by rrz518
I love DTW....It's Detroit that I can't stand.
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beats BOS...

