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Im a new user Jun 18, 2021 4:27 pm


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 33339442)
They don’t usually search for pets in this way at those border crossings. When they come across pets there, there is an assumption that the pet probably has an EU pet passport of some sort somewhere, while when they flag someone for a search for weapons or drugs or other restricted objects there is an assumption that there isn’t a license/passport equivalent. And who and how they flag down is very much different than with regard to pets.

I wasn't thinking of normal people who bring their pets. I meant the situation where someone brings dozens of dogs hidden in secret places in a car. For example, here it says that there was one instance in 2016 where Tullverket confiscated dogs, and they confiscated 26 dogs during that year, so it looks as if someone was bringing in 26 dogs and had all of them confiscated.


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 33339442)
Automobiles and pleasure boats provide for more and bigger hiding spots for drugs and weapons and other stuff than train passengers and train passenger baggage.

Yes, of course. And boats can enter the country anywhere, so they are hard to check.

GUWonder Jun 18, 2021 4:53 pm

Commercial pet transport and some transport of individuals pets apart from owners — even when with an EU pet passport of sort — are something else; and if those come up to the attention of customs personnel, then it’s done a different way that doesn’t have them as a high priority like the searches and related resource assignments of the sort indicated in my post above.

vanillabean Jun 19, 2021 1:18 pm


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 33338287)
Sweden had no passport control for train arrivals from Denmark yesterday but they did have customs teams checking out the train and passengers.

We went to Malmö this morning and it was an uneventful affair. Occasionally a staffer went by quietly, but no one approached us, not for passports, not for vaccination or test, not even for train tickets. But we were told to have our passports ready at the end of the bridge.

The return was not much different. No statement in the loudspeaker, but we were checked for tickets, or almost that is, because his Swedish device didn’t work on my blue Danish Rejsekort, so he simply skipped us. That’s the kind of stuff that can make a criminal out of you!

But downtown was nice for a walk, not quite as hot as yesterday.

Im a new user Jun 19, 2021 3:38 pm


Originally Posted by vanillabean (Post 33341186)
We went to Malmö this morning and it was an uneventful affair. Occasionally a staffer went by quietly, but no one approached us, not for passports, not for vaccination or test, not even for train tickets. But we were told to have our passports ready at the end of the bridge.

Tickets are usually checked, but occasionally they are not. If there are several passengers who have to pay a penalty fare (tilläggsavgift/kontrolafgift), then the conductor sometimes doesn't make it all the way from one end of the train to the other. Since the 2014-15 refugee crisis, there is a passport control at Hyllie Station, but they don't check every train. Unless you are an asylum seeker, you only need to show your passport. There is a customs control whenever Swedish customs thinks that someone might be transporting illegal drugs or other illegal goods.


Originally Posted by vanillabean (Post 33341186)
The return was not much different. No statement in the loudspeaker, but we were checked for tickets, or almost that is, because his Swedish device didn’t work on my blue Danish Rejsekort, so he simply skipped us. That’s the kind of stuff that can make a criminal out of you!

This is so stupid. If it's a Swedish conductor, then they can only look at your Rejsekort without verifying if you have checked in, but Danish conductors check this. I don't think that Danish conductors can verify Skånetrafiken's app tickets (showing a photoshopped image probably works). In Sweden the counties can't decide on a common ticket system, so you often get this problem at the county borders, although some counties use a shared system.

pseudoswede Jun 20, 2021 2:49 pm

I think there were 3 dogs and 1 cat on our EWR-CPH flight.

GUWonder Jun 20, 2021 3:45 pm


Originally Posted by vanillabean (Post 33341186)
We went to Malmö this morning and it was an uneventful affair. Occasionally a staffer went by quietly, but no one approached us, not for passports, not for vaccination or test, not even for train tickets. But we were told to have our passports ready at the end of the bridge.

The return was not much different. No statement in the loudspeaker, but we were checked for tickets, or almost that is, because his Swedish device didn’t work on my blue Danish Rejsekort, so he simply skipped us. That’s the kind of stuff that can make a criminal out of you!

But downtown was nice for a walk, not quite as hot as yesterday.

That passport/ID announcement has been sort of standard for years now on these trains. Today afternoon, I got feed of two men being denied entry into Sweden at Hyllie and being escorted by two police officers from the arrival track to the departure track along with their substantial amount of luggage. It was a shorter than anticipated visit to Sweden for those two men well into their middle ages.

Friday train border control was uneventful indeed. Sunday not so much. :eek:


Originally Posted by Im a new user (Post 33341412)
Tickets are usually checked, but occasionally they are not. If there are several passengers who have to pay a penalty fare (tilläggsavgift/kontrolafgift), then the conductor sometimes doesn't make it all the way from one end of the train to the other.

That penalty fare thing doesn’t seem to me to be the primary reason why they rather frequently don’t get around to checking for the bridge crossing tickets during the CPH-Hyllie stretch and the Hyllie-CPH stretch. Tickets are often checked on that stretch, but often enough they are not. Even when there have barely been any passengers on board and no fare cheats caught for the border-crossing section, they are far from always checking most, all or even any tickets during this pandemic. But now they are checking more than a few months ago.


Originally Posted by Some Person
Since the 2014-15 refugee crisis, there is a passport control at Hyllie Station, but they don't check every train. Unless you are an asylum seeker, you only need to show your passport. There is a customs control whenever Swedish customs thinks that someone might be transporting illegal drugs or other illegal goods.

Since the fall of 2015 there is some passport control there at times; and at other times (since then), there is none.

Showing only a passport doesn’t work for all always. I’ve seen US and Canadian passport users asked to show more than those passports even as the mentioned checks for those US and Canadian passport users had nothing to do with asylum-seeking. At times, they flip through the passports and look for the Schengen entry and exit stamps to see if there is a Schengen area overstay.

There is a customs control there at times even when Customs doesn’t know that someone might be transporting illegal drugs or other illegal goods. They are there at times to put on a show of force for deterrence purpose rather than for targeted interdiction.


This is so stupid. If it's a Swedish conductor, then they can only look at your Rejsekort without verifying if you have checked in, but Danish conductors check this. I don't think that Danish conductors can verify Skånetrafiken's app tickets (showing a photoshopped image probably works). In Sweden the counties can't decide on a common ticket system, so you often get this problem at the county borders, although some counties use a shared system.
Some Swedish conductors last year and even earlier this year couldn’t scan even some Swedish tickets. There has been a lot of system dysfunction even with Skanetrafiken employees being able to scan Skanetrafiken tickets last year and earlier this year; but maybe some more of that dysfunction has dissipated in recent months with conductors doing a double scanning approach that seems to work better now than previously.

Skanetrafiken app tickets have a shifting image, and it seems to me that they often know it in Denmark too. But the static printed Skanetrafiken tickets get a visual look (of a static ticket) from DSB and other Danish conductors in Denmark, in much the same way as they do in Sweden.

GUWonder Jun 20, 2021 3:49 pm


Originally Posted by pseudoswede (Post 33343385)
I think there were 3 dogs and 1 cat on our EWR-CPH flight.

I have been on a few SAS flights during this pandemic where people were flying their pets one at a time from the US to CPH. Sort of amusing to hear of a pet run, as in one cat a time. :D

Passmethesickbag Jun 20, 2021 4:50 pm

HELP! I'm a Swedish citizen resident in the UK who needs to travel back from South-East England to Southern Sweden in order to spend some time with a relative who won't be with us for much longer. I am fully vaccinated, as evidenced both by an NHS vaccination card and a record in the NHS app, and have been nowhere near the Bedford/Blackburn/Bolton areas. I first interpreted the regulations to mean that I am exempt from a test if transiting via Denmark, but now I am no longer so sure. The rules as listed here https://en.coronasmitte.dk/rules-and...n-of-countries are as clear as mud:

In relation to the COVID-19 entry restrictions, the United Kingdom is categorized as an orange country. The red regions in the United Kingdom determine which rules apply in relation to requirements on testing and isolation upon entry into Denmark.

What does that even mean? It doesn't make more sense to me in Danish either (https://coronasmitte.dk/raad-og-regl...ing-af-lande):

I relation til COVID-19 indrejserestriktionerne (krav om anerkendelsesværdigt formål og testkrav forud for indrejse) er Storbritannien kategoriseret som et orange land. De røde regioner i Storbritannien har således indflydelse på, hvilke regler, der gælder i relation til krav om test før ombordstigning på fly mod Danmark samt krav om test og isolation efter indrejse i Danmark.

If anybody can explain whether than means that I'm still good with my vaccination, or either need to get a PCR test or rebook via Stockholm (a nightmare, train-wise, with midsummer coming up), I would be most grateful.

Passmethesickbag Jun 21, 2021 1:20 am

To answer my own question, I just phoned the hotline, and they assured me that a test is *not* necessary so long as my vaccination documentation is in order.

GUWonder Jun 21, 2021 3:18 am


Originally Posted by Passmethesickbag (Post 33344434)
To answer my own question, I just phoned the hotline, and they assured me that a test is *not* necessary so long as my vaccination documentation is in order.

For arrival into CPH when coming from a non-red area, that is correct — acceptable proof of vaccination regimen completed at least 14 days prior to entry is more than sufficient to enter Denmark as a Swedish citizen transiting to Sweden even when the onward travel from Denmark to Sweden is not on a ticketed PNR. It’s even enough when using a US passport to enter the Schengen area at CPH and then taking a train or car or boat to Skane.

Denmark is open to the vaccinated with Danish-accepted proof of vaccination, even without a test in advance of travel.

Im a new user Jun 21, 2021 3:38 am


Originally Posted by Passmethesickbag (Post 33343655)
I am fully vaccinated, as evidenced both by an NHS vaccination card and a record in the NHS app, and have been nowhere near the Bedford/Blackburn/Bolton areas.

I suggest that you bring evidence from the UK authorities showing that you do not live in one of the red areas. That and evidence of vaccination seems to be enough for transiting Denmark.

In addition to those three, note that Rossendale also is a red area.

Passmethesickbag Jun 21, 2021 11:19 am


Originally Posted by Im a new user (Post 33344592)
I suggest that you bring evidence from the UK authorities showing that you do not live in one of the red areas. That and evidence of vaccination seems to be enough for transiting Denmark.

Thank you, that is a very good idea. Will bring my recent HMRC tax code notice letter and have also printed the official interactive Covid map with a pin over where I live. And I discovered that I could get the NHS app to e-mail me a copy of my vaccination certificate with the QR code so I don't need to fiddle with my phone.

18wheeler_vanrekt Jun 21, 2021 10:23 pm

So I also have a arriving-from-UK travel dilemma to present:

- I'm flying from LAX to London Heathrow
- I'm planning to do a same-day Airside transit at Heathrow to an SAS flight (separate ticket from my first one) into Copenhagen (so never actually entering the UK).
- My residence is a "yellow" country (USA), and my arrival I'm assuming will be from an orange country (UK), so it looks like I can enter without a "essential" reason, but will be subject to testing and/or isolation requirements at the Danish border? https://en.coronasmitte.dk/rules-and...n-of-countries
- If isolation is required, my stay in Denmark is a 1-day "layover", does that just mean I have to go straight from the airport to my lodging and then back for my flight the next day?
- And should I be prepared to present a COVID test no more than 48 hours old for boarding my SAS flight from London Heathrow, even tho I've been vaccinated?

Thanks all in advance!

Passmethesickbag Jun 22, 2021 1:02 am


Originally Posted by 18wheeler_vanrekt (Post 33347027)
So I also have a arriving-from-UK travel dilemma to present:

- I'm flying from LAX to London Heathrow
- I'm planning to do a same-day Airside transit at Heathrow to an SAS flight (separate ticket from my first one) into Copenhagen (so never actually entering the UK).
- My residence is a "yellow" country (USA), and my arrival I'm assuming will be from an orange country (UK), so it looks like I can enter without a "essential" reason, but will be subject to testing and/or isolation requirements at the Danish border? https://en.coronasmitte.dk/rules-and...n-of-countries
- If isolation is required, my stay in Denmark is a 1-day "layover", does that just mean I have to go straight from the airport to my lodging and then back for my flight the next day?
- And should I be prepared to present a COVID test no more than 48 hours old for boarding my SAS flight from London Heathrow, even tho I've been vaccinated?

Thanks all in advance!

You should be fine, so long as it's at lest two weeks since you received your second jab and you have evidence of your vaccination.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...86448ae2b2.png

GUWonder Jun 22, 2021 5:41 am

For whatever reason, it seems like the presumption at CPH is that vaccinated UK passport users arriving in CPH from abroad are generally from wherever they verbally state they are from or London. Wouldn’t expect it to be generally different on arrival if using a Swedish passport to come in on the same LHR-CPH flights — other than perhaps it meaning not being stuck using the “All Passports” counters if you don’t want to use them.


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