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dgwright99 Jun 8, 2005 10:55 am


Originally Posted by Braswch
I've seen recent posts where people have gotten status match from United within 24 hours. I called and they say it could take up to 5 business days. It's now been 3 business days and no response. One rep suggested I refax it.......

UA matched my AA Plat in about a week after I faxed in my statement. It took about 2 months before I got the pack in the mail, but the new status was reflected on the website in a week.

Aisle Seat H Jun 16, 2005 12:51 pm


Originally Posted by ermdjdsj
Does anyone have a quick summary or link to various airline tier-dropping policies?

No, but the three airlines I have ever had status with (all non-US based ones) have an only-drop-one-level policy, even if you don't fly - SAA, BMI and Qantas. I.e. on all of them, if you are Gold you will drop no lower than Silver the next year, even if you don't step on a plane.

PAY_CLT Jun 17, 2005 9:13 am

[any status matches from Hyatt program?

kiam Jun 17, 2005 10:28 pm


Originally Posted by misbeehavin
Here's my situation:

I just flew on my 43rd SkyTeam flight for 2005. I've been collecting all the miles on Air France's Frequence Plus FFP.

I have requalified already for F+ Rouge (and for Flying Blue Platinum, when it is introduced).

Of the 43 flights, turns out, 3 were on AF, 4 on NW and 36 on DL.

I was wondering:

1. Would it be worth asking DL to match my F+ / FB status on Skymiles?
2. If so, would DL match my Platinum status?

I have read that DL won't match platinum status, but it's worth considering that I got the F+ / FB status by flying on DL in the first place!

You effort in trying this will not be worth cos DL won't match Af status and any other SkyTeam status since they are under one alliance. I am quite surpised it took you up to 36 segments on DL to realize you should have had DL Elite status.

bapilot2b Jun 19, 2005 9:38 am

Hi Guys,

Just got a quick question re status match. I have seen alot of status match opportunities between non-star alliance carriers to *A carriers, but not the other way round. Does anybody know any airline which will happily status match BD gold to their equivalent tier?

A majorty of my travel is in C, and mainly to the states with the odd few european trips in between. Any suggestions or info would be appreciated.

Aisle Seat H Jun 24, 2005 7:17 pm

North American *A
 
Hi guys.

Any idea if any of the North American *A carriers will comp./match me status (I am a QF Platinum [OW Emerald, top tier]) ?

Is the "Air Canada don't comp./match" rule still accurate ?

What about UA or US ?

best Jun 25, 2005 7:30 am

Probably:Hilton, Marriott, SPG and Priority.

Originally Posted by PAY_CLT
[any status matches from Hyatt program?


Karl Jun 30, 2005 5:01 am

SAA will become Star Alliance Member 2006
 

Originally Posted by Middleseat8
Anyone know if SAA will do a Status Match from Usairways?

Who would I contact?

Thanks

Next year 2006 SAA will become part of Star Alliance so you won't have a problem using your USAIR card on SAA. They were scheduled to join this year but United told me that they had to first get a new computer system which is used by Star Alliance members.
Karl Renz,
UA 1K......

milesm88 Jul 15, 2005 6:33 am

Help with VS & BD Gold
 
I am currently a VS and BD gold member, and would like to get a status match on UA and AA. Could you advise what they may match to, and how to go about applying for the match from start to finish? Any help is much appreciated. Thank you so much for taking the time to reply.

Miles

azepine00 Jul 19, 2005 12:34 am


Originally Posted by best
Isn' there a general practice that after 7/1 of the year the higher status goes not to the following year, but the year after( in this case 2007)?

Does anyone know if this is indeed the case?
I am particularly interested in UA matching my AA PLT.
Thanks!

GUWonder Jul 19, 2005 4:46 am


Originally Posted by azepine00
Does anyone know if this is indeed the case?
I am particularly interested in UA matching my AA PLT.
Thanks!

A UA status match (to AA status) done in September of 2003 was good through this past February (2005).

dillard8 Jul 19, 2005 6:55 am


Originally Posted by azepine00
Does anyone know if this is indeed the case?
I am particularly interested in UA matching my AA PLT.
Thanks!

I helped my dad get a match from NW to UA 2P earlier this month, and the confirmation email he received from UA on July 13 (five business days after faxing his NW statement) reads:

Dear Mr dillard8's dad,

Congratulations! You have been awarded
Premier status in the Mileage Plus Program!

This status recognizes your importance to United,
and will make your travel with us easier and more
rewarding than ever.

You will receive your 2005 Premier card in 4-6 weeks. Until then,
simply present your Mileage Plus account number to enjoy all the
benefits of being a Premier member.
And for details about the Premier program, visit www.united.com .

This promotional status will be effective until
February 28, 2006
. To maintain the status, you have
to fly 25,000 paid flight miles or 30 paid flight
segments on United, United Express, United Shuttle
or our Star Alliance partners within a calendar year.

We hope you will travel with us often, and
experience the exceptional service and style
reserved for our Premier members around the world.

Thank you for choosing United Airlines. Enjoy your
Premier membership!

However, when he actually received his membership kit, it is clearly valid through 2/07, not 2/06.

ctownflyer Jul 24, 2005 1:42 pm

Anyone know of any airlines that would match airtran elite status?

kemputer26 Jul 27, 2005 2:30 pm

UA to AC Status Match Failed.
I figured I'd give it a try, but didn't get any satisfaction.
I am *A Gold, UA Premier Exec, w/numerous hotel and car-rental "gold and platinum" status holdings, and am a bona-fide relocation to Canada as of 2 weeks ago.
My response: a big fat "No" from Aeroplan.
I guess I'll earn AirMiles on WestJet within Canada, and continue to book tickets via UA for flights to the USA. Their loss.

The people I was speaking to at Aeroplan had never even heard of such a thing as allowing status to be given from another airline, and were not about to bend the rules for me regardless of how compelling an argument I made.
When I told them about other airlines' willingness to do this status-matching, they just didn't believe me.

Hope this saves somebody else some time.
Cheers

noah Jul 28, 2005 12:02 am

So here is one for you guys...

I'm a US GP and sitting at about 38K EQM so far this year flying mostly on UA. They make the most sense from SFO, and are our designated corporate carrier. Earlier this year I tried to get UA to comp me, but they declined due to the "no poaching *A partner elites" policy.

Today I met our UA account rep and she offered to match my status if I send her an e-mail. This sounds good, but I'm wondering what the timing of this might be. Will a comp today be good only through the end of THIS year (without flying 50K miles)? Or, does it not matter until I fly 50K next year and maintain status in 2007?

If I have the option to keep it through next year, I'd probably get it now so I can credit my upcoming UA flights there and my US flights to US. If I would need to earn 50K miles in the rest of this year, I'll probably wait until after that point to make the request.

Thanks in advance for the advice.

Nimish Jul 28, 2005 8:12 am

Will CO Onepass match my Aeroplan Elite status
 
I'm an Aeroplan Elite (*A Gold), and have a CO Onepass account with about 45K miles (earned many years ago). Will CO match my Aeroplan Elite status? I'm based in India (if that matters).

gleff Jul 28, 2005 8:17 am


Originally Posted by noah
Today I met our UA account rep and she offered to match my status if I send her an e-mail. This sounds good, but I'm wondering what the timing of this might be. Will a comp today be good only through the end of THIS year (without flying 50K miles)? Or, does it not matter until I fly 50K next year and maintain status in 2007?

Wait three months if possible -- almost certainly status granted now will expire in 2/06 while status granted November 1 will expire 02/07. (I'm uncertain the actual date of this switchover, at varies by carrier and may even vary by year.)

baby1234 Jul 28, 2005 10:17 am

Just out of curiosity, do you get the same kit as everyone else after you are status comp'ed as opposed to having earned it?

As well, I'm thinking of comping to US Prem. Exec. from AC Elite. Does anyone know what, if any, is in that kit?

Thanks

gleff Jul 28, 2005 10:21 am


Originally Posted by baby1234
Just out of curiosity, do you get the same kit as everyone else after you are status comp'ed as opposed to having earned it?

Varies by airline. IIRC HP used to include the ability to gift Silver status when someone made Platinum.. but that wasn't included in the kit when they comp'd someone Platinum. But in general carriers don't distinguish between those who have earned status and those who receive it as a comp.


As well, I'm thinking of comping to US Prem. Exec. from AC Elite.
Intro-Star Alliance comps are hard to obtain. Don't assume it'll sail through.

azepine00 Aug 1, 2005 11:31 pm


Originally Posted by dillard8
7/1 is not the cutoff on UA. I helped my dad get a match from NW to UA 2P earlier this month, and the confirmation email he received from UA on July 13 (five business days after faxing his NW statement) reads:

...

This promotional status will be effective until
February 28, 2006
.

I called MP today. I was told that according to their rules status match made after July 1 is valid through the end of the following year. Perhaps you need to call back to sort it out.
I'll try to make this clear on the cover page.

gusti Aug 2, 2005 7:07 am

Does anyone know if Icelandair does a status match with a *G?

ExtraInRedShirt Aug 3, 2005 1:36 pm


Originally Posted by dillard8
7/1 is not the cutoff on UA. I helped my dad get a match from NW to UA 2P earlier this month, and the confirmation email he received from UA on July 13 (five business days after faxing his NW statement) reads:

snip...

Thank you for choosing United Airlines. Enjoy your
Premier membership!

I've seen 2 different numbers to fax the documents to, and 3 different sets of documents (just a platinum card, just miles summary, both card & miles summary). Do you mind giving info on which of these you used (or anyone else who's done this recently)?

Thanks,
Extra

dillard8 Aug 3, 2005 3:24 pm


Originally Posted by ExtraInRedShirt
I've seen 2 different numbers to fax the documents to, and 3 different sets of documents (just a platinum card, just miles summary, both card & miles summary). Do you mind giving info on which of these you used (or anyone else who's done this recently)?

Thanks,
Extra

Sure - I used (or rather, my dad used, since he's the one who actually faxed it) the 520-881-4458 number. He reported that he got a busy signal several times before it went through. He just sent a copy of his NWA 2004 year end statement, printed from the NWA website, which shows all of his 2004 activity and that he is currently Silver Elite based on that activity. It took 5 business days for the match to come through, and he got his welcome packet about 2 weeks after that.

ExtraInRedShirt Aug 3, 2005 9:20 pm

Thank you very much!

dillard8 Aug 4, 2005 7:19 am

Also, I stand corrected in the expiration date of the comped status - although the confirmation email my dad got said that he would receive premier status through Feb. 2006, when he received the membership kit it is clear that it is good through Feb. 2007.

best Aug 4, 2005 12:23 pm

At Delta's suggestion we faxed copy of UA's status card. Requested D to email results. After two weeks no email no letter, no phone call. Suggestions?----especially I do not have number for live Skymiles person-does anyone?

Gaz Aug 4, 2005 5:22 pm

oneworld status match?
 
Being mainly a Star Alliance flyer, I'm currently *G with AC (Elite), BMI (Gold) and *S with United.

However, I do occasionally have to fly oneworld, and unfortunately, despite heaping rather a lot of miles onto my Qantas card, they've all been lowly discount-economy tickets, meaning I've still got absolutely zero status.

Are there are oneworld airlines that might match my status from AC or BM? I have a fair bit of oneworld travel coming up towards the end of the year due to RTW routes that are best covered by oneworld airlines, and am really going to miss lounge access!

azepine00 Aug 5, 2005 12:00 am


Originally Posted by azepine00
I called MP today. I was told that according to their rules status match made after July 1 is valid through the end of the following year. Perhaps you need to call back to sort it out.
I'll try to make this clear on the cover page.

Update:
PremExec status within 48 hrs. Very impressed by UA MP. ^

Nimish Sep 8, 2005 2:33 am

FlyingBlue Status match offer in India
 
Just received an email from KLM.

Summary: If you have an elite status on any other airline, and fly 1 trip on AF/KL/NW before 28/Feb/06, you'll get a status match on flying blue.


<snip>
To celebrate this partnership, we wish to offer you the unique opportunity of becoming an Elite member in the Flying Blue programme. A whole new world of frequent flyer benefits awaits you by just taking a qualifying round-trip flight from India on board Air France/KLM/ Northwest before February 28, 2006.

In addition to being a distinguished Flying Blue Elite member, we will provide you with 3,000 Flying Blue Welcome Bonus Miles when you fly on-board Air France, KLM or Northwest within 6 months from your date of enrollment.
<snip>
For a limited period, Flying Blue will match your current tier status in your respective frequent flyer program. Just enroll as a Flying Blue member and fax to +91 11 23353279 your latest mileage statement from your current frequent flyer program that reflects an India to Europe / USA flight activity in the last 18 months together with a copy of your Flying Blue membership card printout before October 31, 2005. We will match your membership status and send you a new Flying Blue Elite membership card as soon as you take the qualifying round trip flight from India on board Air France/KLM/Northwest. You can take this qualifying flight anytime between now and February 28, 2006.
<snip>

Nimish Sep 8, 2005 2:41 am


Originally Posted by Nimish
Just received an email from KLM.

Summary: If you have an elite status on any other airline, and fly 1 trip on AF/KL/NW before 28/Feb/06, you'll get a status match on flying blue.

Further fine print at the end of the email makes it seem like the status match is only if you fly on the higher fare classes :mad:


This offer is valid on Air France, KLM and Northwest Airlines operated flights only. Qualifying flight activity for the Flying Blue Elite Offer should be completed no later than February 28, 2006. Booking classes eligible for the Flying Blue Elite Offer on Air France flights are P/F/J/C/D/Z/Y/B, for KLM flights: J/C/Z/S/B and for Northwest flights: J/C/Z/Y/B.

former230 Sep 8, 2005 9:30 am

Just got matched from AA plat to CO gold. Wrote letter to address stated in original post less than two weeks ago. Some quick TAT! ^

reikkonen Sep 17, 2005 1:44 am

I need your advice
 
Hi guys,

I need your advice.

I have an AA's PLT. I would like to have a status match with European based or Japanese based airline.

I could find out someone adviced to try to ANA. Anyone could succeed?

And I got PLT from Challenge. Is there any trouble to make a status match?

Thank you
reikkkonen

925 Sep 17, 2005 1:49 am


Originally Posted by reikkonen
I got PLT from Challenge. Is there any trouble to make a status match?

No other airline has the ability to know (or care) HOW you received your AA Plat status. Once Plat you are Plat to everyone.

3timesalady Sep 17, 2005 12:58 pm

I got status on NWA a couple of weeks ago by faxing a letter to the # in gleff's orginal post. it was a match to my UA, but didn't have the requisite materials. I sent a copy of my membership card and a print-out of every flight I took in the last year (which showed elite bonuses separately so NWA could verify that I have had status for awhile w/ UA). And it worked, I had status within a few days.

For what its worth, I also have also flown NWA a lot over the years. Everyone I know was getting a silver challenge (which is hard, since as someone pointed out, you have to go with the really expensive tickets), so I got lucky.

Still need to fly 25K miles to keep the status though! Oh well, better something than nothing. :)

volleyca Sep 17, 2005 8:01 pm

If I ask CO for a status match with AA (I am EXP), will I get the same status or the basic level?

FunnyScott Sep 18, 2005 12:18 pm


Originally Posted by gleff
As we approve the end of a benefits year, airlines are beginning to reveal changes to their frequent flyer programs for 2004. They want more revenue at a lower cost. Their static models probably predict that their changes will accomplish this. Some may, some may not.

But I believe it's important for us to remember that while they're doing their job, we don't have to be sympathetic. After all, we're customers. And we have every right to seek out the product that best fits our needs. If an airline program offers a better deal for our flying and buying patterns, by all means we should take advantage of that offer!

And many airlines make it easier for us to do so -- by matching our current status with elite privileges in their program.

One of the most frequently asked questions on Flyertalk, throughout the various forums, is "Will airline X match my titanium status in the Infinite Airways program?" or something to that effect. And since fellow flyers are beginning to think about their plans for 2004, I thought I'd take a stab at summarizing the "who will match what? and how do I do it?" conventional wisdom.

Of course, this is general advice. It doesn't work in every case. And my knowledge may be superceded by better and more recent information. But this is what I've collected over time. If you would like to correct me, please do so. It will only make for a better information summary. And thread links are welcome!

So here goes ---

Continental

Will match status, generally to equivalent level up to Platinum (top tier)

They seem concerned about fraud, so require a bunch of information:
  • A copy of your current elite status card.
  • A copy of your latest elite statement.
  • A copy of your current One Pass Membership Card.
  • A copy of your current One Pass statement.

Along with a note explaining you'd like to shift your busy to them if they'll match your current status.



United

Will match status, generally to equivalent level up to Premier Executive (mid-tier)

Send a copy of your current elite statement or elite card along with a note explaining you'd like to shift your busy to them if they'll match your current status to:



America West

Will match status, generally to equivalent level up to Platinum (top tier)

Send a copy of your current elite statement or elite card along with a note explaining you'd like to shift your busy to them if they'll match your current status to:

America West also offers a challenge program, awarding status based on substantial flying over a 90 day period. They may even offer Silver elite status just for the asking. See this thread on America West status challenges.

Delta

Will match status, generally to equivalent level up to Gold (mid-tier)

Send a copy of your current elite statement or elite card along with a note explaining you'd like to shift your busy to them if they'll match your current status to:



[Edit] There are recent reports of Delta offering "challenges" in response to status match requests -- that is, fly x segments in y days for status.

American

American will consistently match United status to equivalent level up to mid-tier (Platinum). They are quirkier about matching status from other carriers. Sometimes they'll offer Gold status. Sometimes they'll just ask you to complete a challenge (miles flown in 90 days). Sometimes they'll offer Gold status and a challenge for Platinum.

For the best consolidated discussion of challenges, see this summary by FewMiles.

Alaska

Will match status, generally to equivalent level -- with midtier on most carriers being equivalent to Alaska's MVP Gold (top tier)

Fax a copy of your current elite statement or membership card to:


Northwest

Northwest will match status, but they're quirky.

Sometimes they'll match to equivalent level up to Gold (midtier). Other times they reject status match requests outright. I'm not an expert as to why.

Send:
Your WorldPerks account number
Copies of your most recent (2) elite mileage statements

They will not accept:
Travel agency reports
Letters of elite status
Membership cards indicating elite status with another airline
Travel itineraries.

Mail information to:


USAirways

Will match status, generally to equivalent level up to Chairman's Preferred (top tier)

Send a copy of your current elite statement or elite card along with a note explaining you'd like to shift your busy to them if they'll match your current status to:



Mexicana

Will match status, generally to equivalent level up to Gold (top tier)

You can make your request by emailing &lt;[email protected]&gt; and saying that you'd like to move your business to Mexicana if they'll match your status.

You will be requested to provide proof of your current elite status by forwarding a copy of your current airline elite card or elite statement. A scan attached to an email reply will suffice.

If you don't hear back in a few days, email again. Mexicana is just like that. But Enrique is a nice guy. [Edited to say that per kempis, Enrique is no longer at MX. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif )


Airtran -- Updated 11/27/03

From December 1 to December 31, 2003 Airtran is offering a formal elite status match program.

Just print their elite status match form, provide your Airtran account information and your competitor elite status information, include a frequent flyer statement (July 1 2003 or more recent) and fax it all to 1-912-966-6378, attention: Elite Matching Program. You should receive an elite card in 3-4 weeks.


Frontier -- Updated 11/27/03

Send your name, EarlyReturns number, and most recent airline elite statement to [email protected] or fax to (720) 374-4375 (attn: Quick Ascent).

Accounts with matched status also earn 5000 bonus miles for each flight (up to 15,000 bonus miles) for flights taken by January 31, 2004.


British Midland

I have no personal experience with this, but my sense is that British Midland will happily comp British Airways Gold members but little else. See this discussion.


Airlines that will not generally match status:
  • Air Canada
  • Lufthansa
  • British Airways - with some exceptions for very significant revenue (per ScottC)
  • Air France (per dctorres)

There are exceptions to every rule, as I'm reminded by this thread which reports that Lufthansa is easy to get a comp from if you're in Turkey or China. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Bear in mind that status matches are generally one-time only affairs -- so only request the match if you plan to use the status and requalify. Otherwise it's a future opportunity wasted.

[Edit] Per suggestions below, let me also note that getting comped from one airline in an alliance to another airline in an alliance is usually much harder. Airlines often have "no poaching" rules, so that United is usually unwilling to match Lufthansa status, and Continental and Northwest are generally unwilling to match each others' status. There are documented exceptions, of course, and the closeness of the alliance is often a factor here. But showing elite status outside of an alliance often produces better results.

It would be great if folks would help keep this up to date. Then, when posters ask about comping procedures, we could just link a single thread...

Best regards,
Gary

------------------
View from the Wing: A blog about Free Miles and Free Markets

[This message has been edited by gleff (edited Nov 27, 2003).]

Very helpful. Thanks much. Any idea on Singapore Airlines?

ExtraInRedShirt Sep 18, 2005 11:28 pm

Anyone with recent history getting a match on NWA? I've heard a couple of times that the match is only good for the remainder of this year - so you'd have to fly 25k miles to keep status. Yuck...

GUWonder Sep 19, 2005 1:11 am

BMI/British Midlands will give a status match up to their top-tier of Gold for UK-based accounts supplying a letter and a copy of their BA, IB or AA card. (BA Golds and AA Plats and ExPlats have been getting BMI Gold in my experience.)

jjjohnnny2003 Sep 19, 2005 9:26 pm

Match CO
 
I am an AA Plat member and want to match with CO. I was wondering people who were successful in matching AA with CO, what exactly did you guys write?

Thanks

reikkonen Sep 20, 2005 12:15 am


Originally Posted by 925
No other airline has the ability to know (or care) HOW you received your AA Plat status. Once Plat you are Plat to everyone.

Thank you!

Anyway, I want to keep asking all you guys that, anyone could succeed to make a status match to ANA?

reikkonen


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