Hotel programs or Priceline?
#16
Join Date: Jun 2003
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If you search the Hyatt site on Flyertalk, you will see that you can have your cake and eat it too. Hyatt has continuously allowed Priceline stays to qualify for their Faster Free Nights program, which is on yet again from October 15 – February 29. This gives you a free night for every two stays.
The Priceline stays also count towards your elite status in the program, and you are extended all elite benefits on the rate. Starwood will not extend elite benefits on Priceline rates beginning on Jan.1.
Of course you have to use Priceline effectively with the assistance of biddingfortravel.com. During the last FFN promotion at Hyatt. I accrued about 5 free nights on Priceline stays of about $30/night at SFO and other places. I used these nights at their resorts in Maui and Lake Las Vegas.
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The Priceline stays also count towards your elite status in the program, and you are extended all elite benefits on the rate. Starwood will not extend elite benefits on Priceline rates beginning on Jan.1.
Of course you have to use Priceline effectively with the assistance of biddingfortravel.com. During the last FFN promotion at Hyatt. I accrued about 5 free nights on Priceline stays of about $30/night at SFO and other places. I used these nights at their resorts in Maui and Lake Las Vegas.
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#17




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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by RustyC:
IThat said, though, there's one frequent destination where Priceline usually falls short: Las Vegas. I always try PL, but it might come through one time in 4 (For LAS I try to pay $15-20/night and top out around $30). Usually the third-party sites like tripreservations.com and Expedia and the websites of downtown casinos will have something PL just can't see to beat. </font>
IThat said, though, there's one frequent destination where Priceline usually falls short: Las Vegas. I always try PL, but it might come through one time in 4 (For LAS I try to pay $15-20/night and top out around $30). Usually the third-party sites like tripreservations.com and Expedia and the websites of downtown casinos will have something PL just can't see to beat. </font>
Where I find PL especially useful in LV is for big conventions and the week ahead of them; I am consistently able to get better rates than the Casino Guest rate, even at properties where I have rated play.
Eric
#18




Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Bonita Springs FL
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I've purchased hotel rooms mostly under 2 loyalty programs (SPG and HH) this year, but once I completed the requirements, I switched a lot of the business over to Hotwire and Wyndham ByRequest 72 hour sale rates. My hotel costs have dropped about 20% this year.
I'm probably going to drop SPG as I have tried and really don't care for any of their products; I prefer HH and will continue to book my 30-35 stays per year with them. More stays will also come through PL and Hotwire.
I'm probably going to drop SPG as I have tried and really don't care for any of their products; I prefer HH and will continue to book my 30-35 stays per year with them. More stays will also come through PL and Hotwire.
#19
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Butler, PA. USA
Posts: 245
I agree it is Priceline all the way-
With only one city so far I have refused to use it in- San Juan, Puerto Rico!
In any other larger city you have a choice of areas ( MG- last time I looked MSY had five areas to pick from).
But in SJU you could be stuck anywhere from the Caribe Hilton- Old San Juan, to basically next to a 737 at the airport (what six miles apart).
If location is no problem- go for it-
but if you're looking to spend most of your time in Old San Juan (pre-cruise maybe), or Condado, or Isla Verde- Don't count on being relatively close to what you want.
With only one city so far I have refused to use it in- San Juan, Puerto Rico!
In any other larger city you have a choice of areas ( MG- last time I looked MSY had five areas to pick from).
But in SJU you could be stuck anywhere from the Caribe Hilton- Old San Juan, to basically next to a 737 at the airport (what six miles apart).
If location is no problem- go for it-
but if you're looking to spend most of your time in Old San Juan (pre-cruise maybe), or Condado, or Isla Verde- Don't count on being relatively close to what you want.
#20
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Tino:
If it's the company's money, I'll go the hotel program route and try to keep it reasonable. When it's my money, it's Priceline all the way.
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Why would I pay 3-4 times as much when I receive the same benefits except points? There is no way a night at any of these properties yields $100 in frequent guest points...
I save up my points for when the Priceline deals are unavailable, which isn't very often.</font>
If it's the company's money, I'll go the hotel program route and try to keep it reasonable. When it's my money, it's Priceline all the way.
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Why would I pay 3-4 times as much when I receive the same benefits except points? There is no way a night at any of these properties yields $100 in frequent guest points...
I save up my points for when the Priceline deals are unavailable, which isn't very often.</font>
Priceline is my first choice for leisure travel, particularly for weekend nights in cities with Hyatt locations. Otherwise I will go with a discounted internet reservation service (e.g. londontown.com, travelworm etc.) depending on the location. I usually end up with a 3*-4* room in the $40-80 range, depending on the season and location.
In the last year, I have only booked 2 leisure stays at posted rates: (1) Bajamar Mexico (I had no choice for a friend's wedding) and (2) Fort Bragg, California. In both cases I was rather pissed off to pay $100+ (the rack in Mexico) for a mediocre sub-holiday inn room. Boy do we get spoiled on priceline.
I expect to have low level elite status by the end of the year in a couple of programs. Depending on the benes, I may re-direct some of my business travel to these programs. But I seriously doubt I will do any "hotel runs" at year end just to get status, with the exception of Hyatt, which still allows you to double-dip (or at least counts PCLN nights for status and provides status benefits on PCLN stays).
#21
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: 60601 AA/HH/SPG
Posts: 1,090
For stays <=3 days
1. If a pointstretcher is available, grab it. Best bang for the buck.
2. See if a good Priceline rate is available at a HH hotel that has a track record of honoring Elite status no matter what you pay.
3. If cent/point ratio is higher than 0.75c/point, got with the HH points redemption.
4. If there is no award availability with HH, encash your SPG points as the last resort. With a HH Diamond, capacity control is not an issue.
For stays >= 4 Days
1. HGVC points redemption.
P.S. I would rather stay at a Mid-level Hotel in an upgraded room with elite benefits than at a high-end hotel in the crappy section.
#22
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Long Island, NY AA-Plat, HH-Gold, SPG-Gold
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Granted, you can't beat Priceline. Still, I usually don't bother b/c for a regular trip I check the major booking engines and the hotel web sites, then book.
For Priceline I do the above, then I check the location maps (which are pretty good) against the hotels I've already targeted, then I check biddingfortravel.com, then I anxiously bid, wait for Priceline to tell me it's a ridiculously low bid, anxiously check to see whether it's accepted, and if it is, anxiously wonder whether I'll get status recognition and points.
Well, in reality there's very little anxiety, but there is time and uncertainty and sometimes it seems worth it (conventions where it's hard to get a decent rate) and sometimes it doesn't (overnighter at an airport hotel).
For Priceline I do the above, then I check the location maps (which are pretty good) against the hotels I've already targeted, then I check biddingfortravel.com, then I anxiously bid, wait for Priceline to tell me it's a ridiculously low bid, anxiously check to see whether it's accepted, and if it is, anxiously wonder whether I'll get status recognition and points.
Well, in reality there's very little anxiety, but there is time and uncertainty and sometimes it seems worth it (conventions where it's hard to get a decent rate) and sometimes it doesn't (overnighter at an airport hotel).
#23


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I'm 80% Priceline last three years, but always always always have the hotels's program card for any chain you expect to land at and offer it. Sometimes gets you stay credit, often an upgrade, even at chains that advertise they don't do anything for Priceline or consolidator rates. There seems to be a "hotel option" on both of those, and they might just choose to bless you. (Except right how Wyndham, which will tell you what you can do with your card on a Priceline rate).
The caution is Priceline in some markets has gone up and chain web rates have gone down, especially on low occupancy days. The spread some places isn't what it used to me and certainty and perks might be worth the difference. Make sure you don't outfox yourself, especially if the Bidding for Travel (Priceline bidding) thread warns of the rare turkey hotel on Priceline.
The caution is Priceline in some markets has gone up and chain web rates have gone down, especially on low occupancy days. The spread some places isn't what it used to me and certainty and perks might be worth the difference. Make sure you don't outfox yourself, especially if the Bidding for Travel (Priceline bidding) thread warns of the rare turkey hotel on Priceline.
#24
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Priceline and Hotwire 
Go to Hotwire first, see what they offer, offer $5-$10 less on Priceline, if it doesn't work, the go with HotWire.
I stayed at Sheratons, Hyatts and Embassy Suites for less than $40 using both services.
Even with the company money.
No reason to spend more
Go to Hotwire first, see what they offer, offer $5-$10 less on Priceline, if it doesn't work, the go with HotWire.
I stayed at Sheratons, Hyatts and Embassy Suites for less than $40 using both services.
Even with the company money.
No reason to spend more
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by fredmartens:
...I switched a lot of the business over to Hotwire and Wyndham ByRequest 72 hour sale rates.</font>
...I switched a lot of the business over to Hotwire and Wyndham ByRequest 72 hour sale rates.</font>
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by jayer:
(Except right how Wyndham, which will tell you what you can do with your card on a Priceline rate).</font>
(Except right how Wyndham, which will tell you what you can do with your card on a Priceline rate).</font>
#28
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Santa Fe, MA, USA
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I've used priceline with mostly lots of good experiences. The one problem I had was in Flagstaff AZ at the Holiday Inn. They put me in a single, smoking room. Even though PL says you will get NS, queen bed, it is really up to the hotel in the end. I would have moved and eaten the cost if they hadn't moved me first thing in the morning when a room opened up. It was really gross. I booked the room really early and called to confirm my late check in so I wasn't the last one to get a room... just the only one paying below the regular price... which they made a point of mentioning several times.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by kyrie:
I wasn't the last one to get a room... just the only one paying below the regular price... which they made a point of mentioning several times.</font>
I wasn't the last one to get a room... just the only one paying below the regular price... which they made a point of mentioning several times.</font>
Then they blame you for paying the rate that they and PL agreed upon in advance. Screw them!

