Does a Million Mile Filer Exisit
Sep 11, 2003 | 10:12 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by divaof travel:
Please provide details as to how you did this, and the 1MM/year flyer myth may seem more plausible.
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Please provide details as to how you did this, and the 1MM/year flyer myth may seem more plausible.
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Sep 11, 2003 | 11:12 am
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ozzie - I see you couldn't restrain yourself, and had to get in the last word, even after I conceded to you!
P.S. - Keep you eyes open for the Great Pumpkin. It is almost time!
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P.S. - Keep you eyes open for the Great Pumpkin. It is almost time!
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Sep 11, 2003 | 12:22 pm
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Can we keep it constructive and not get personal?
Or has everything substantive that's going to get said been said? (Please, a rhetorical question only.)
The subject is quite clearly Does a Million Mile Flyer Exist? and is not about any Flyertalk poster.
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Or has everything substantive that's going to get said been said? (Please, a rhetorical question only.)
The subject is quite clearly Does a Million Mile Flyer Exist? and is not about any Flyertalk poster.
Thank you.
Gary
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Sep 12, 2003 | 8:51 pm
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Pay for my flights and I will prove it to you. 
I'm sure it can be done. Nobody says you have to spend that much time on the ground. Many people need to be somewhere in person for only a very short time like an hour. Then they get back on a plane and go home or to the next place. Doesn't seem so hard to believe if you figure in some seriously long-haul flights.
I'm sure it can be done. Nobody says you have to spend that much time on the ground. Many people need to be somewhere in person for only a very short time like an hour. Then they get back on a plane and go home or to the next place. Doesn't seem so hard to believe if you figure in some seriously long-haul flights.
Sep 12, 2003 | 10:36 pm
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On the topic of pilots flying one millions miles a year...
US licensed pilots can only be at the controls 1000 hrs a year max. Assuming these are freighter pilots flying for Polar, Atlas, or Evergreen they would cover at most 500000 miles a year. A 747 flys at about 500 MPH (Including taxi, takeoff, climb, desent, land, taxi, on a 10 hr trip) and if you added dead heading to JFK, LAX, or ANC to start these trips maybe they would cover at most 600000 miles.
Other pilots fly less...
US licensed pilots can only be at the controls 1000 hrs a year max. Assuming these are freighter pilots flying for Polar, Atlas, or Evergreen they would cover at most 500000 miles a year. A 747 flys at about 500 MPH (Including taxi, takeoff, climb, desent, land, taxi, on a 10 hr trip) and if you added dead heading to JFK, LAX, or ANC to start these trips maybe they would cover at most 600000 miles.
Other pilots fly less...
Sep 12, 2003 | 11:13 pm
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Reading this forum brings right now the fondest memories of home and the small kids at our barn fighting over who gets to sit on what side of the bench....
Besides this, why is it that some people (and some of the belong to the smart percentage of this world) cannot accept simple mathematical or scientific facts?
Besides this, why is it that some people (and some of the belong to the smart percentage of this world) cannot accept simple mathematical or scientific facts?
Sep 14, 2003 | 5:37 am
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Out of interest I was reading BA's own website Concorde link today.
Some people fly at lot more than some here think. British Airways themselves state (but I agree they too might be plain lying):
"The most frequent Concorde passenger, an oil company executive, has clocked up almost 70 round trip transatlantic crossings a year."
The mind boggles at what other flying that guy undoubtedly slotted in. Nearly 500,000 miles a year flown just on Concorde - and "hours in the air" not as great as the 'scientists' might figger on the Abacus Mark III. That flying runs to considerably less than 10 hours a week.
Anyone care to do the math on what 70 Concorde RT's would COST.
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Some people fly at lot more than some here think. British Airways themselves state (but I agree they too might be plain lying):
"The most frequent Concorde passenger, an oil company executive, has clocked up almost 70 round trip transatlantic crossings a year."
The mind boggles at what other flying that guy undoubtedly slotted in. Nearly 500,000 miles a year flown just on Concorde - and "hours in the air" not as great as the 'scientists' might figger on the Abacus Mark III. That flying runs to considerably less than 10 hours a week.
Anyone care to do the math on what 70 Concorde RT's would COST.
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Sep 14, 2003 | 9:19 am
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Yes, but even if it is true, it is still far less than 1M miles. This persons time is clearly more valuable than the money it costs for the airfare. It is highly unlikely that such a traveler is accruing even 100 Kmiles in a subsonic fashion, much less more than 500K.
I certainly would not envy this travel regimen anyway. The airports served by Concorde are not easy to deal with, and the seats on the aircraft are not very roomy. But, it is still a much more sensible way to get 485 Kmiles than anything else I have heard about.
Also, ozstamps, as the moderator requested, please refrain from the personal remarks.
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I certainly would not envy this travel regimen anyway. The airports served by Concorde are not easy to deal with, and the seats on the aircraft are not very roomy. But, it is still a much more sensible way to get 485 Kmiles than anything else I have heard about.
Also, ozstamps, as the moderator requested, please refrain from the personal remarks.
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ozstamps:
Nearly 500,000 miles a year flown just on Concorde - and "hours in the air" not as great as the 'scientists' might figger on the Abacus Mark III. .
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Nearly 500,000 miles a year flown just on Concorde - and "hours in the air" not as great as the 'scientists' might figger on the Abacus Mark III. .
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Sep 14, 2003 | 9:25 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by divaof travel:
It is highly unlikely that such a traveler is accruing even 100 Kmiles in a subsonic fashion, much less more than 500K.
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It is highly unlikely that such a traveler is accruing even 100 Kmiles in a subsonic fashion, much less more than 500K.
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Sep 14, 2003 | 9:32 am
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The burden of proof would be with anybody claiming that even a single person is flying 1 Mmiles. Otherwise, one would have to prove that each of over 6 billion people do not fly 1 Mmiles.
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Sep 15, 2003 | 8:41 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by gleff:
Or has everything substantive that's going to get said been said? </font>
Or has everything substantive that's going to get said been said? </font>
Sep 15, 2003 | 11:27 am
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CrazyOne and I are both still volunteering to do this if anyone wants to pay for the cost of the plane tickets. I'll even volunteer for the arduous task of flying every single Concorde flight left.
And then I get to take all those miles and do something fun. :-)
And then I get to take all those miles and do something fun. :-)
Sep 15, 2003 | 12:15 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by StSebastian:
CrazyOne and I are both still volunteering to do this if anyone wants to pay for the cost of the plane tickets. I'll even volunteer for the arduous task of flying every single Concorde flight left.
And then I get to take all those miles and do something fun. :-)</font>
CrazyOne and I are both still volunteering to do this if anyone wants to pay for the cost of the plane tickets. I'll even volunteer for the arduous task of flying every single Concorde flight left.
And then I get to take all those miles and do something fun. :-)</font>
I just need funding to cover the airfare, hotels, and a little stipend. And I trust I can keep the miles. Maybe Randy should sponsor a FT race/contest to see how much flying one can do in a year?
Sep 15, 2003 | 12:51 pm
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I wholeheartedly believe that not only is it possible to do 1MM, but has been and is being done.
Now, if I could win the lottery....I'd be more than happy doing a weekly long-haul on in F on CX, SQ, QG or BA. Having no bills or anything else to worry about, it would make for one fantastic year and probably get me my 15 minutes of fame (if winning the lotto didn't)
Here's hoping...
Now, if I could win the lottery....I'd be more than happy doing a weekly long-haul on in F on CX, SQ, QG or BA. Having no bills or anything else to worry about, it would make for one fantastic year and probably get me my 15 minutes of fame (if winning the lotto didn't)
Here's hoping...