IMHO, the new bag match rules will add to the number of bags being carried on. I, and others I know, have often just checked our bags rather than hassle with them at security. Now, I know that I'll do whatever I can to get everything carried on.I assume others will do the same.

I don't think bag matching will have as large of an impact on carry on's as requiring them all to be checked. given the choice of standing in line waiting for somebody to search my bag item by item, or carrying it on, I think I may start packing to carry on stuff again, with a very small checked bag for the stuff that can't be carried on. Searching a small bag has to be faster then searching a large one by hand for checked bags. I can see it now, very tiny bags for razors, underwires, and nail clippers, the rest is carryon.

I'm debating the idea of a small checked bag also. I'm a determined carry-on person, but I don't want to be aggravated by security. I never travel with more than I can handle by myself.

I'm thinking of dragging an old Zero Haliburton metal suitcase out of the back of garage for check in purposes. Less likely to be crushed. Unfortunately, I don't have one with wheels.

I don't see how the bag matching rules will increase carry-ons since the FAA rules are limiting the number of bags that people can carry onto the plane with them. It will just add time to a trip. Luckily, I'm a very efficient packer so I don't see this impacting me.

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Well, seeing how you are limited to one carry on and a personal item, I don't see how there will be more carry ons.

I'll be doing a couple of trips in the next few weeks and I plan on only taking a rollaboard and a briefcase or a backpack.

Why would you bring more carry-ons as a result of bag match? I don't see the connection.

d

This is the connection between baggage checking and carry on bags.

Since September, I have checked the bag I would have carried on in the past. I usually board with a with a book and a few other items. If I was traveling with it, perhaps a laptop too. Previous to that I have carried on a regulation carry on with a couple of days worth of traveling in it, not wanting to check a bag if I could help it. It's been easier to check the bag, because there were things in it that were allowed before September that were no longer allowed (razors etc).

Now that the delay might be at the screening of the checked baggage, instead of checking a bag next trip, I am now more inclined to check the absolute minimum of stuff I can, which would be the things security if frowning upon now. I will carry on the rest, because x-raying a carry on is faster then hand searching each and every item in it.

For me, that is how the new rules will increase carry ons. I wouldn't have had one before Friday, after Friday I will.

Everybody who doesn't see the connection appears to be assuming that each person on the plane is already traveling with a full sized carry on, which isn't the case at all. I think that many of the people who were not will be after Friday though.

It seems they have eliminated the backpack from the list of things considered 'Personal Items'. I would stick with the briefcase.

Really? I just flew PIT-MCO and back (return yesterday) with a rollaway and a backpack, and had no problems.

(That's how I've pretty much ALWAYS packed, so the "new" rules have yet to impact me, actually).

Bag matching does not mean handsearching the bag. It merely means bags may not fly unless the person the bag belongs to boards the flight. This is what occurs on all international flights now and was implemented after the Lockerbie bombing when the suspected bag containing the bomb was checked and the person checking the bag did not board the plane. Bag matching is an alternative to x-raying, handsearching, sniffing, etc., each bag and is a measure all international carriers have been doing for several years. The only delay I have ever had because of bag matching was when someone who has checked bags does not board the plane then the checked bags must be located in the hold and removed. I have had this occur just once while on a SYD-HNL-YVR Qantas flight when a continuing passenger was arrested in HNL for smuggling and the flight was delayed for 30 minutes while his checked bags were located and removed.

Understood, which is why I said

I don't think bag matching will have as large of an impact on carry on's as requiring them all to be checked.

If all they did was bag matching then it's not a huge deal at all. If however they are searching the bags as is generally expected to happen starting Friday, and they don't have the equipment to x-ray or do it any other way then opening each bag then it will affect carry on's, there will be many more of them and they will be as big as the airlines allow.

But I completly agree with you, bag matching alone will have no effect on carry on's at all.

cordelli, I am in total agreement with you. Before 9/11, I carried on everything in one rollaboard. Post 9/11, with security delays for carry-ons, I simply brought a briefcase on board and checked my bag.

Now, on my flights next week, I will once again put everything in my rollaboard and go thru security. I'm figuring that the delay factor will be equal between checked and carry-on with these new FAA requirements.

I still don't understand why people will bring more carry-ons and less checked luggage because of checked baggage screening.

At most airports, the baggage screening will be done in between the ticket counter and the airplane. AA has been doing this at ORD all week, and I haven't heard any complaints. So, to the passenger, there really isn't any difference between before (no checked screening) and now (checked screening). It's not like they're going to ask you to get on the conveyor belt and follow your bags through the system.

However, bringing all of your stuff through the security checkpoint would seem to be more inconvienient. If you check "questionable" items, as some of you have mentioned, there's no need for explainations or hand searches. Checked baggage only gets x-rayed for bombs, not for nail clippers. But, if you try going through regular security with nail clippers, they're either going to get confiscated or you're going to have to explain them. This seems like a bigger inconvenience.

d

I guess I don't understand where everybody gets the idea that every checked bag will be searched starting friday. An airline can choose to hand search every piece of checked baggage. If they choose the hand searching option then they do not need to do anything else and bag matching will not be done (indeed if every piece of checked baggage is searched the reason for bag matching goes away). Bag matching, though, is an alternative form of security screening of checked bags that does not involve xraying, sniffing, or searching every bag. It happens daily on every international flight and has for 10 years now. Plus even if a particular airline decided that they did not want to do bag matching and wanted to do xraying or handsearching instead, they are not looking for knives, box cutters, etc, they are looking for explosive devices as Doppy noted (hence the reason explosive sniffing dogs are an alternative).

If every bag loaded on the plane is not accompanied by a passenger who has gotten on the plane then the unaccompanied bag must be offloaded - this is how most delays due to bag matching will occur when someone does not board the plane after checking their bags(maybe because they are stuck trying to get through security?).

Xraying of checked baggage sometimes can lead to handsearching of that baggage. For example when the xray shows sometimes that looks like a bomb. Then the bag must be opened and checked. This is what occurs in some european cities.

Not trying to argue with you Cordelli but I just don't understand why people think that bag matching means hand searching of checked luggage.
jerry

me too. unless u have to be present when the checked bag is either xrayed or hand searched...