Some programs stink. Which ones make you cringe?
#76
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How about this "winner"?
Does.anyone.here.remember.EPoll.with.their.absurd.sexual preferences survey and welshing on their awards of 500 UA miles?

E-Poll was a scam from beginning to end.

E-Poll was a scam from beginning to end.
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#77
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Join Date: Apr 2000
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The fine benefits of BW
Originally Posted by ANDREWCX
I agree with Best Western Golden Crown Club being the pits. Not so much for the annual expiration but more for the completely useless systems they use. Not once in the dozen or so stays in Australia I credited to my account did the points post automatically - every time I needed to send in copies of the bill, call, email etc and months later the points would post. The last time they just completely failed to post the points even though I sent in copies of the bill twice and called and emailed etc - they stopped replying to the emails.
As a result I avoid Best Western if at all possible. If you have to stay with them in the US get the miles instead and if you are overseas don't hold your breath for the points.
Hilton of course posts with no problem at all... as does Priority Club etc.
As a result I avoid Best Western if at all possible. If you have to stay with them in the US get the miles instead and if you are overseas don't hold your breath for the points.
Hilton of course posts with no problem at all... as does Priority Club etc.
You get to argue with them that the stay doesn't qualify after check out because of the rate plan
So no points and miles at all
#78




Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: TPA, IAH, IAD, ORD, GRU
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Talk About Worthless Programs
Originally Posted by 777 global mile hound
You left out one other major benefit with staying at Best Westerns
You get to argue with them that the stay doesn't qualify after check out because of the rate plan
So no points and miles at all
You get to argue with them that the stay doesn't qualify after check out because of the rate plan
So no points and miles at all
I agree with 777 there. I have the card and NEVER got any points. Come to hink of it, i filled an application, sent it in and NEVER got the card. I just checked my Frequent Leather Keeper (where I keep all my affinity program credentials). I quit staying at BW's mostly because there are very few in my destinations and frankly they're too cheap for my taste.
In the realm of worthless programs, my vote goes to CHOICE PRIVILEGES, from the folks at Choice Hotels International.
I signed up for their program on the Internet when I realized I was going to spend a LOT of time at a Quality resort in Brazil, during an installation of the equipment I sell. I spent over a month at the place. With subsequent 3 and 3 day stays over a 2 month period afterward. In fact, I am going there tomorrow (7/20).
I faxed all of the receipts to them when I was back in the U.S. in Aprl. To this day, NO POINTS. Then I read you only accrue points for stays in the U.S. but can use them for stays OUTSIDE the U.S. as well as in. How stupid is this? Then the card is made out of paper. Give me a break.
It's going in the fireplace.
#79
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The thing about BW that has always prevented me from staying there is that I don't really know what to expect of it. It's a very veeerrrryyy loose affiliation of properties without any strong brand. I've seen small towns where the BW appears to be a beautiful hotel with character and charm unmatched by any of the Hamptons and Fairfields of the world. But I've seen many more towns where the BW looks like it's falling apart and there's a nice, new Hampton next door where I know exactly what I will get.
Therefore, I'm never going to book a BW ahead. If I pull up late at night and the building has curb appeal, I might walk inside and ask for a room.
It doesn't surprise me that their frequent-guest program is less than stellar. It probably stems from the fact that their affiliates are so loosely organized with the corporate entity. It's not like a Hampton franchisee that has to "play ball" with Hilton in order to fly the Hampton flag.
Therefore, I'm never going to book a BW ahead. If I pull up late at night and the building has curb appeal, I might walk inside and ask for a room.
It doesn't surprise me that their frequent-guest program is less than stellar. It probably stems from the fact that their affiliates are so loosely organized with the corporate entity. It's not like a Hampton franchisee that has to "play ball" with Hilton in order to fly the Hampton flag.
#80
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, BC and Costa Rica
Posts: 13
Lots of CO bashing here but back when I was a frequent business traveler and had their elite status, I was getting upgraded almost every flight. No upgrade coupons, no limits on number of upgrades, etc. That ranked them pretty high for me.
As far as using points go, I'd still vote for Alaska as the easiest to use points since there are so many options.
As far as using points go, I'd still vote for Alaska as the easiest to use points since there are so many options.
#81
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: USA, Europe
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Perhaps you should know that CO (at least at one point) would target promos at elites to get people to vote for them on the freddies - onepass miles etc were all part of that -
#82
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Plano, Texas USA
Programs: AA EXP, 8 MM; Hilton Diamond
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I don't use Continental so I dont have a dog in this fight but I have been able to score European Business First seats (via AMEX and my Delta Medallion account) anytime I have needed them
#83
Join Date: Sep 2000
Posts: 243
how about milesource.
in jan. 2004, they got rid of referral pts for all pts earning opportunities except for purchases.
They raised the redemptions for a $50 gc from 5500 to 21000.
Now, if you just click and do the trivia for free pts, you have to do it solid for 23 months everyday just to succeed. Oh, if you miss days, your pts start expiring in the 24th month.
in jan. 2004, they got rid of referral pts for all pts earning opportunities except for purchases.
They raised the redemptions for a $50 gc from 5500 to 21000.
Now, if you just click and do the trivia for free pts, you have to do it solid for 23 months everyday just to succeed. Oh, if you miss days, your pts start expiring in the 24th month.
#84
Join Date: Dec 2004
Programs: DL Skymiles, Priority Club Plat AMB.,HHonors Gold,Amex
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I haven't been involved with a ton of loyalty programs but so far the only one that ticks me off is Idine, not because of their policies or rules but because of my piss poor hometown. There's plenty of potential with the program and getting points but the number of eateries are sooo limited.
#85
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Newport, NJ, USA
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Originally Posted by bbkenney
I don't use Continental so I dont have a dog in this fight but I have been able to score European Business First seats (via AMEX and my Delta Medallion account) anytime I have needed them
#86
Join Date: Aug 2004
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So anyone know why CO miles-in-seat only earn half MQM's on Delta's program, even in full Y?
#87
Join Date: Oct 2001
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My vote goes to Fiesta Rewards. This is the "rewards" program for the Fiesta Americana Hotel chain. They're primarily located in latin america. I guess shoddy ripoff service is tolerated there.
However, their program is absolutely horrible. My mom has been trying to get 30k points posted from last summer. She faxed receipts, sent emails, called their "customer support" line, and still nothing.
This year when in CUN we had the hotel staff working on the problem. They did a lot of faxing and photocopying. The final result was still zero points posted.
Hopefully my mom's experience will serve as a warning to anyone thinking of joining this worthless program. Their hotels are great, but the rewards program is just plain bad.
However, their program is absolutely horrible. My mom has been trying to get 30k points posted from last summer. She faxed receipts, sent emails, called their "customer support" line, and still nothing.
This year when in CUN we had the hotel staff working on the problem. They did a lot of faxing and photocopying. The final result was still zero points posted.
Hopefully my mom's experience will serve as a warning to anyone thinking of joining this worthless program. Their hotels are great, but the rewards program is just plain bad.
#88

Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Philippines
Posts: 218
Memolink.com
Memolink has to be the worst point-based redemption program out there because it can take you years before you can earn enough of their points to redeem them for anything worthwhile and i've heard that they take their good 'ol time sending you your reward once you have redeemed it.
Also, about OnePass, I feel that it depends on which route you want to take your award on. I redeemed my Worldperks miles on Continental Micronesia a few years ago for a MNL-YAP hop and had no problems.
Also, about OnePass, I feel that it depends on which route you want to take your award on. I redeemed my Worldperks miles on Continental Micronesia a few years ago for a MNL-YAP hop and had no problems.
#89
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 873
I was a avid MyPoints user when the earning potential was still good with frequent special offers (many of them found with the help of FT
). These days there is limited earning potential and although its free I don't like all the small amount offers they send out lately. I stopped using them.
Another program that has lost almost all of its appeal is OpinionPlace. Earning opportunities were OK but when they lowered the miles per survey they became unattractive to me especially condidering the small amount of surveys I would qualify for. Only good thing they have going is that you earn the miles unconditionally (unlike ERewards AA miles)
). These days there is limited earning potential and although its free I don't like all the small amount offers they send out lately. I stopped using them.Another program that has lost almost all of its appeal is OpinionPlace. Earning opportunities were OK but when they lowered the miles per survey they became unattractive to me especially condidering the small amount of surveys I would qualify for. Only good thing they have going is that you earn the miles unconditionally (unlike ERewards AA miles)
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#90
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Originally Posted by ql2112
I was a avid MyPoints user when the earning potential was still good with frequent special offers (many of them found with the help of FT
). These days there is limited earning potential and although its free I don't like all the small amount offers they send out lately. I stopped using them.
Another program that has lost almost all of its appeal is OpinionPlace. Earning opportunities were OK but when they lowered the miles per survey they became unattractive to me especially condidering the small amount of surveys I would qualify for. Only good thing they have going is that you earn the miles unconditionally (until ERewards AA miles)
). These days there is limited earning potential and although its free I don't like all the small amount offers they send out lately. I stopped using them.Another program that has lost almost all of its appeal is OpinionPlace. Earning opportunities were OK but when they lowered the miles per survey they became unattractive to me especially condidering the small amount of surveys I would qualify for. Only good thing they have going is that you earn the miles unconditionally (until ERewards AA miles)
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