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Pseudo Nim Dec 2, 2013 5:58 am

That's good info - thanks. Just a comment on Amex: not only US residents eligible. Any Amex worldwide can transfer at least to Canada, and likely elsewhere, through Global Transfer. Did it from Japan to Canada some years back. Even the accumulated points transfer!!

B747-437B Dec 2, 2013 6:09 am


Originally Posted by gateguard0 (Post 21886634)
While I can't speak for that particular card, I have some information on this topic that may help others.

I am a Canadian resident on a work permit. My SIN starts with 9, and I am not considered a permanent resident. Acquiring Canadian credit cards under these circumstances varies bank by bank.

My primary banking relationship is with TD. With TD, I could initially acquire any of their cards (standard or premium) but only as a secured card.

After a year of holding a TD secured card, I was able to acquire AMEX Canada and Chase Canada cards on my own credit merit without requiring a secure line of credit. It's worth noting that AMEX Canada may be willing to issue a Canadian card based on US credit history if you have an existing relationship with AMEX USA (see: Global Transfer).

I have also attempted to acquire a CIBC card with no success. Their terms state that only permanent residents are eligible. They did say that non-permanent residents may be eligible for their cards with a secured line of credit, but the premium card for which I applied was not available as a secured card.

I have a similar story, except my banking relationship was with RBC - initially in Canada with a student permit and then a work permit. After 2 years, they offered me an RBC Student Visa and then another year later swapped it for an RBC Rewards Visa.

I no longer live in Canada, but have continue to maintain various RBC accounts with healthy balances for almost 15 years. They have absolutely no issue with allowing me to maintain my RBC Infinite Avion card as a result.

My Canadian credit history does not have my SIN linked to it and is now pretty lengthy. I am up front with the info that I am not permanently resident in Canada and while it takes a few days to process, it has been fine with American Express Canada and with MBNA (now TD). However, CIBC and Capital One have not been willing to consider any applications from non-PRs.

heta Dec 2, 2013 11:26 am

Thanks everyone for the info regarding the credit card application for non-PR.

I can add one info to this, at RBC they can issue a credit card with non secured 5k credit line to work permit holder without history if the income is above certain threshold. I did this (I opened bank accounts with them as well, I don't know if this is necessary) and also the Global transfer with Amex.

I will report back if I decide to try for the BMO card.

B747-437B Dec 2, 2013 12:23 pm


Originally Posted by heta (Post 21888369)
I can add one info to this, at RBC they can issue a credit card with non secured 5k credit line to work permit holder without history if the income is above certain threshold. I did this (I opened bank accounts with them as well, I don't know if this is necessary) and also the Global transfer with Amex.

Yep, same experience with RBC. They started me off with a 5k credit line but they have offered me increases regularly since then (and even authorised one-off charges above the credit limit - such as when I had to charge $40k in one transaction to buy fuel for a Boeing 757).

erik19283 Dec 2, 2013 5:21 pm

Anybody interested in going to China in spring 2014?

I don't know if it's a mistake or not, but it seems to be good from the beginning of February up until mid-May.

I searched for flights between Vancouver (YVR) and Beijin (PEK) and found them at $449.27, but it's not limited to Beijin. For example, going to Shanghai is only $399.69. Those are in economy and on Air China. Also, that's in US dollars, but it's more or less the same as Canadian dollars these days.

If you need to get to Vancouver in the first place, then you could get an award ticket for that. Aeroplan will fly you to Vancouver from almost anywhere in Canada and the U.S. for 25K Aeroplan miles, and if you don't have those miles yet, then Amex has generous sign-up bonus offers for its cards that will give you enough or more than enough miles for such a trip to Vancouver.

To get those tickets to China, first go to http://www.wideroe.no/en

Then, search from Vancouver to wherever you want to go in China. If it looks like nothing is happening, just be patient; the site is slow.

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...AirChina01.jpg

Then, click "View alternative dates" to get a calendar to choose the best price.

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...AirChina02.jpg

The price you see on the screen includes everything except a $5 booking fee added at the end.

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...AirChina03.jpg



It might also work with other Canadian cities or even with American ones, I didn't check, so I don't know about that. Anyway, hopefully this will be useful to someone, and if so . . . Have a nice trip! :cool:

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Pseudo Nim Dec 2, 2013 5:23 pm

uhhh ... the wideroe thing is still on???? wow.

[edit] anyone who books this - can you confirm the booking class? wonder whether MR-worthy.

methodman Dec 2, 2013 5:48 pm


Originally Posted by erik19283 (Post 21890609)
Anybody interested in going to China in spring 2014?

I don't know if it's a mistake or not, but it seems to be good from the beginning of February up until mid-May.

I searched for flights between Vancouver (YVR) and Beijin (PEK) and found them at $449.27, but it's not limited to Beijin. For example, going to Shanghai is only $399.69. Those are in economy and on Air China. Also, that's in US dollars, but it's more or less the same as Canadian dollars these days.[/COLOR]


I'm getting similar pricing on Air Canada. Prices for flights to China fluctuate a lot; I flew AC from YWG to PEK in October for $950 all in. I'm seeing similar prices here now.

Departing from cities other than YVR is only a small amount higher.

yerffej201 Dec 2, 2013 8:34 pm


Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim (Post 21890614)
uhhh ... the wideroe thing is still on???? wow.

[edit] anyone who books this - can you confirm the booking class? wonder whether MR-worthy.

credits 25% to ap... no

teriyaki Dec 2, 2013 10:46 pm


Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim (Post 21890614)
uhhh ... the wideroe thing is still on???? wow.

[edit] anyone who books this - can you confirm the booking class? wonder whether MR-worthy.

If you get to the booking page, you can actually see the booking class. Hope that helps.

kiwimagic Dec 3, 2013 4:04 am

Just booked and ticketed YVR-KMG $399 ,booked into U class on Air China, 50% mileage on AC, UA ,A3

erik19283 Dec 3, 2013 8:21 am


Originally Posted by kiwimagic (Post 21892941)
Just booked and ticketed YVR-KMG $399 ,booked into U class on Air China, 50% mileage on AC, UA ,A3

Don't forget about the visa! ;)

why fly Dec 3, 2013 12:44 pm


Originally Posted by methodman (Post 21890744)
I'm getting similar pricing on Air Canada. Prices for flights to China fluctuate a lot; I flew AC from YWG to PEK in October for $950 all in. I'm seeing similar prices here now.

Departing from cities other than YVR is only a small amount higher.

How is $950 similar to $400? Also you get no miles on Air Canada?
You must be able to get an award ticket for less than $500 from YWG? or a sale?

methodman Dec 3, 2013 12:52 pm


Originally Posted by why fly (Post 21895969)
How is $950 similar to $400? Also you get no miles on Air Canada?
You must be able to get an award ticket for less than $500 from YWG? or a sale?

My bad.

When the original post was made, I tried to search for the original deal myself on wideroe. What I saw the $400-ish price, but it was for one-way flights, not round trip. And of course, AC had a comparable price. So I didn't see what the big deal was.

jerry305 Dec 5, 2013 8:01 am

650 Aeroplan miles for first UPS Store purchase
 
http://www3.aeroplan.com/earn_miles/...er=TheUPSStore

Get 150 Aeroplan miles with first purchase at UPS Store.
Also, you get 500 additional miles if you earn the miles with a Get More! small business card. There's no requirement for the small business card.
Limited time promo on now: Triple Aeroplan miles triples your bonus to 1,650 miles

So, you can get 1,650+ Aeroplan miles for the first purchase.





Originally Posted by JJonahJ (Post 21872950)
For me, with 7 AP accounts to tend to, I went to the UPS store on 5 different trips, different locations. Each store I went to had different stock and different prices for the exact same items as displayed in other stores. Eventually, I got tired of looking for things that were just over a $1. So, one time I just grabbed a 75c eraser and asked the clerk to ring it up as $1+. No problem-oh. :D


JJonahJ Dec 5, 2013 10:43 am


Originally Posted by jerry305 (Post 21907845)
http://www3.aeroplan.com/earn_miles/...er=TheUPSStore

Get 150 Aeroplan miles with first purchase at UPS Store.
Also, you get 500 additional miles if you earn the miles with a Get More! small business card. There's no requirement for the small business card.

So, you can get 650 Aeroplan miles for the first purchase.

Promo on now: Triple Aeroplan miles


Umm, so are you bringing up the UPS promo again, side by side with the emphasis on the Triple Aero promo event?

So, on a $1+ first purchase, would you get 3x651=1953 point?

Or 650+(3x1)= 653 points?

Too late for me anyway, I've fufilled this promo for all my family's accounts already. :p

jerry305 Dec 5, 2013 10:48 am


Originally Posted by JJonahJ (Post 21908717)
Umm, so are you bringing up the UPS promo again, side by side with the emphasis on the Triple Aero promo event?

So, on a $1+ first purchase, would you get 3x651=1953 point?

Or 650+(3x1)= 653 points?

Too late for me anyway, I've fufilled this promo for all my family's accounts already. :p


Good point. The 500 points actually is tripled to 1500 points during this promo. So you can earn 1653 points on a $1 spend. Glad to see you've made the most of this promo. ^

keitherson Dec 5, 2013 12:05 pm


Originally Posted by methodman (Post 21896016)
My bad.

When the original post was made, I tried to search for the original deal myself on wideroe. What I saw the $400-ish price, but it was for one-way flights, not round trip. And of course, AC had a comparable price. So I didn't see what the big deal was.

The Wideroe deal is not a big deal, even for $400 roundtrip, in terms of miles. The Air China class is 50% accrual so it's basically paying for $800 on Air Canada which will give 100% accrual, for most mileage programs like MP and AP. Not to mention the elite bonus that can give up to another 100% on bonus RDM. 200% RDM miles vs 50% RDM miles is a no brainer for me.

Given that flying to China has been very cheap lately ($500-700) on both AC and UA, I would say the value proposition is even weaker.

This deal is only good for casual fliers who are just looking for a ticket that's about $100-200 off the normal price. For frequent fliers and those concerned about miles, there's very little value. The JFK-MXP deal was much better.

JJonahJ Dec 5, 2013 2:52 pm


Originally Posted by jerry305 (Post 21908748)
Good point. There's no tripling of the 650 bonus. It's still an easy 650 Aeroplan miles (one time), so I thought it was worth pointing out. Glad to see you've made the most of this promo. ^

True. Very easy.

And if anyone is chasing Distinction status and is slightly short, these are 650+ dEligible Aero points!

wpgpoints Dec 8, 2013 11:00 am


Originally Posted by jerry305 (Post 21908748)
Good point. There's no tripling of the 650 bonus. It's still an easy 650 Aeroplan miles (one time), so I thought it was worth pointing out. Glad to see you've made the most of this promo. ^

I got 1653 points for a $1.61 purchase:

150 pts -1st time UPS bonus
1 pt - Get more miles
500 pts - UPS get more 500 miles bonus
2 pts - UPS GET MORE TRIPLE MILE BONUS (posted 4 days later than the above three)
1000 pts - UPS GET MORE TRIPLE MILE BONUS (posted 4 days later than the 1st three above)

Pseudo Nim Dec 8, 2013 11:57 am


Originally Posted by wpgpoints (Post 21926538)
I got 1653 points for a $1.61 purchase:

150 pts -1st time UPS bonus
1 pt - Get more miles
500 pts - UPS get more 500 miles bonus
2 pts - UPS GET MORE TRIPLE MILE BONUS (posted 4 days later than the above three)
1000 pts - UPS GET MORE TRIPLE MILE BONUS (posted 4 days later than the 1st three above)

Nice!

Time to open some more accounts. Lol

crimsona Dec 8, 2013 12:22 pm

Chase Canada Marriott Visa cardholders check your mail - may be targeted offer of 15k bonus points when you add an Authorized User before Dec 31 (supposedly started after Nov 19)

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/marri.../#post17934084

sailingman22 Dec 9, 2013 1:37 am

Added my wife as an authorized user Friday.

methodman Dec 9, 2013 8:20 am


Originally Posted by wpgpoints (Post 21926538)
I got 1653 points for a $1.61 purchase:

150 pts -1st time UPS bonus
1 pt - Get more miles
500 pts - UPS get more 500 miles bonus
2 pts - UPS GET MORE TRIPLE MILE BONUS (posted 4 days later than the above three)
1000 pts - UPS GET MORE TRIPLE MILE BONUS (posted 4 days later than the 1st three above)

Whoa. That's fantastic!

crimsona Dec 9, 2013 5:15 pm

I guess the rep screwed up my purchase?

Only got the 2 miles for $2 purchase and 150 first purchase, no sign of the 500 bonus

EDIT: Went back and made another purchase, this time making sure they inputted both the Get More number and Aeroplan number (the clerk was about to do only the Get More number this time).

Transaction at 9:50 am, posted onto my Aeroplan account when I checked at 10:05 am

heraclitus Dec 11, 2013 8:45 am

Which location did you go to, wpgpoints? The two locations I've tried seem to have an incredibly hard time figuring out the process of punching in my Get More number... not exactly an awesome first experience with the UPS Store

wpgpoints Dec 11, 2013 9:42 am


Originally Posted by heraclitus (Post 21946387)
Which location did you go to, wpgpoints? The two locations I've tried seem to have an incredibly hard time figuring out the process of punching in my Get More number... not exactly an awesome first experience with the UPS Store

The one in the underground shops downtown (Winnipeg Square) at Portage and Main in Winnipeg.

http://theupsstore.ca/322/

jerry305 Dec 11, 2013 1:20 pm

At the latest UPS store I visited, this seemed to be a 2 step process for them.

The Get More! card got me 10% off.
Then they asked if I also had an Aeroplan number, so I could get points.
They typed in both numbers.

Get More! and Aeroplan appears to be two different steps.

I sense that clerk is seeing many people come into make tiny purchases to get the points.

jerry305 Dec 13, 2013 7:50 pm

30 bonus Air Miles: December 14
 
https://www.airmiles.ca/arrow/IssuanceMilesOffers

Dec 14, Staples:
30 bonus Air Miles on a $100 purchase.

Dec 12-24, RONA:
10x Air Miles on minimum $60 purchase.

Other offers available. Not bad.

Thanks to Rewards Canada blog for pointing these out.

britishcanuck Dec 13, 2013 9:23 pm

I've only just got into churning recently, I'm a Canadian citizen living and working in America. Is there anything stopping me applying for a Canadian Marriott card with my Canadian SIN? (Already have the Chase Marriott card in the US)

The extra 50k points and the 15 stay credits would be pretty sweet..

jerry305 Dec 13, 2013 9:57 pm


Originally Posted by britishcanuck (Post 21963267)
I've only just got into churning recently, I'm a Canadian citizen living and working in America. Is there anything stopping me applying for a Canadian Marriott card with my Canadian SIN? (Already have the Chase Marriott card in the US)

The extra 50k points and the 15 stay credits would be pretty sweet..

Your SIN number should not be a factor. Do you still have at least one other active Canadian credit card, a good payment history and a Canadian address? Would a credit report show activity for creditcards or a mortgage or other loan?

britishcanuck Dec 14, 2013 2:25 pm


Originally Posted by jerry305 (Post 21963355)
Your SIN number should not be a factor. Do you still have at least one other active Canadian credit card, a good payment history and a Canadian address? Would a credit report show activity for creditcards or a mortgage or other loan?

I currently have an active Canadian credit card, perfect payment history and an address. I have activity on my cards, and a line of credit, yes.

jerry305 Dec 14, 2013 3:31 pm


Originally Posted by britishcanuck (Post 21966143)
Quote:





Originally Posted by jerry305


Your SIN number should not be a factor. Do you still have at least one other active Canadian credit card, a good payment history and a Canadian address? Would a credit report show activity for creditcards or a mortgage or other loan?




I currently have an active Canadian credit card, perfect payment history and an address. I have activity on my cards, and a line of credit, yes.

Sounds good to me. Those are the factors they're looking for.

Finkface Dec 14, 2013 4:30 pm


Originally Posted by crimsona (Post 21926967)
Chase Canada Marriott Visa cardholders check your mail - may be targeted offer of 15k bonus points when you add an Authorized User before Dec 31 (supposedly started after Nov 19)

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/marri.../#post17934084

Thanks for this. I added Mr. Fink and he added me for a nice 15K for each of us. And as a side note, I don't think it's targeted as I never received the mailing and just called in and asked for it. No problem at all.

crimsona Dec 14, 2013 4:36 pm

Did your points post immediately? at the moment I'm still at the "you should be eligible for the promotion but wait for the points to post 8 weeks after authorized user uses the card" stage

Finkface Dec 14, 2013 4:49 pm


Originally Posted by crimsona (Post 21966663)
Did your points post immediately? at the moment I'm still at the "you should be eligible for the promotion but wait for the points to post 8 weeks after authorized user uses the card" stage

We each have to make one purchase once we get the cards but she said the bonus would post with the first statement following the first purchase. But she confirmed the bonus. Did you do it online? Is that where you saw the 'you should be eligible for the promotion...'? I looked for a way on the Chase site but couldn't find the promo so I called in. She said the cards would arrive this week (I am also in YVR).

crimsona Dec 14, 2013 5:26 pm

I actually applied for an authorized user about a week before learning about the targeted letter.

Applied Nov 26 or so
Got the mailing Dec 2 or so
Received the AU card Dec 7 or so

First rep wouldn't budge at all saying it was for people with AUs
Second rep said I should be OK as the promo started Nov 19 and ends Dec 31
Third rep thinks in her opinion I should get the bonus as the postcards were mailed out on November 18 (at least the timing is right!) and that I applied for an AU in that timeframe, even if just by luck.

I had the AU charge something and the charge posted before the statement closed on Dec 11, so just waiting for the bonus points to post. I hope. At the very least I have the actual postcard so I have better backup to say I'm 100% targeted/eligible for the bonus.

Finkface Dec 14, 2013 5:53 pm


Originally Posted by crimsona (Post 21966850)
I actually applied for an authorized user about a week before learning about the targeted letter.

Applied Nov 26 or so
Got the mailing Dec 2 or so
Received the AU card Dec 7 or so

First rep wouldn't budge at all saying it was for people with AUs
Second rep said I should be OK as the promo started Nov 19 and ends Dec 31
Third rep thinks in her opinion I should get the bonus as the postcards were mailed out on November 18 (at least the timing is right!) and that I applied for an AU in that timeframe, even if just by luck.

I had the AU charge something and the charge posted before the statement closed on Dec 11, so just waiting for the bonus points to post. I hope. At the very least I have the actual postcard so I have better backup to say I'm 100% targeted/eligible for the bonus.

I can't see why you wouldn't get it. They didn't hesitate when I phoned in and I never received the mailing at all. Keep us posted if/when your bonus appears.

jerry305 Dec 15, 2013 12:15 pm

UPS Store: 1650 points until December 24
 
wpgpoints pointed out earlier that the triple bonus promo really did apply to the 500 points (until December 24). Great find!
The triple points bonus promo is over. You can still get 650 points, though.

http://www4.aeroplan.com/static/gfx/...heUPSStore.jpg
If you haven't yet done this promo, here are the steps...

Step 1. Go get a Get More! small business card from The UPS Store. Print out the temporary card with your 9-digit number.

Step 2. Visit a UPS Store in Canada. Buy some kind of office supply in-store, or make some copies instore. Spend at least $1.

Step 3. Present your Get More! discount card. Also recommended: ask to give your Aeroplan number. There are have been differing accounts as to whether the clerk has to enter this number manually.

Step 4. You will get 150 Aeroplan miles with first purchase at UPS Store, plus 500 miles for your purchase with the Get More! card. You'll see these miles probably within a day.

Also, these Aeroplan miles are Distinction-eligible.



Originally Posted by wpgpoints (Post 21926538)
I got 1653 points for a $1.61 purchase:

150 pts -1st time UPS bonus
1 pt - Get more miles
500 pts - UPS get more 500 miles bonus
2 pts - UPS GET MORE TRIPLE MILE BONUS (posted 4 days later than the above three)
1000 pts - UPS GET MORE TRIPLE MILE BONUS (posted 4 days later than the 1st three above)


alc Dec 15, 2013 11:56 pm


Originally Posted by jerry305 (Post 21970122)
If you haven't yet done this promo, here are the steps...

Step 1. Go get a Get More! small business card from The UPS Store. Print out the temporary card with your 9-digit number.

Step 2. Visit a UPS Store in Canada. Buy some kind of office supply (or send a package, or make some copies instore). Spend at least $1.

Step 3. Present your Get More! discount card. Also recommended: ask to give your Aeroplan number. There are have been differing accounts as to whether the clerk has to enter this number manually.

Step 4. You will get 150 Aeroplan miles with first purchase at UPS Store, plus 500 miles for your purchase with the Get More! card. You'll see these miles probably within a day. About a week later, you'll see the 1000 more miles, representing a tripling of the 500 miles bonus. So on a $2 spend, you will see 1,656 Aeroplan miles.

Thanks jerry305 for posting on the AC Forums about this UPS promo. So I just signed up the Get More! Small Business Card for my wife and myself and will follow your above steps to go to a UPS store tomorrow.

My questions to those who did this for your family as well, did you even apply one for your child/children? I admit that I do have account created for my daughter for a number of programs, but this one does make me wonder if I should go ahead as well. Mainly because it does state "Small Business" in it. All the others programs "technically speaking" can be owned by a 6yr old.. but definitely not Small Business IMO.

Please let me know what your thoughts.

Thanks.

jerry305 Dec 16, 2013 12:04 am


Originally Posted by alc (Post 21972812)
Quote:





Originally Posted by jerry305


If you haven't yet done this promo, here are the steps...

Step 1. Go get a Get More! small business card from The UPS Store. Print out the temporary card with your 9-digit number.

Step 2. Visit a UPS Store in Canada. Buy some kind of office supply (or send a package, or make some copies instore). Spend at least $1.

Step 3. Present your Get More! discount card. Also recommended: ask to give your Aeroplan number. There are have been differing accounts as to whether the clerk has to enter this number manually.

Step 4. You will get 150 Aeroplan miles with first purchase at UPS Store, plus 500 miles for your purchase with the Get More! card. You'll see these miles probably within a day. About a week later, you'll see the 1000 more miles, representing a tripling of the 500 miles bonus. So on a $2 spend, you will see 1,656 Aeroplan miles.




Thanks jerry305 for posting on the AC Forums about this UPS promo. So I just signed up the Get More! Small Business Card for my wife and myself and will follow your above steps to go to a UPS store tomorrow.

My questions to those who did this for your family as well, did you even apply one for your child/children? I admit that I do have account created for my daughter for a number of programs, but this one does make me wonder if I should go ahead as well. Mainly because it does state "Small Business" in it. All the others programs "technically speaking" can be owned by a 6yr old.. but definitely not Small Business IMO.

Please let me know what your thoughts.

Thanks.

Fair point.

There's no burden of proof for what is or is not a small business. Many people have some kind of activity that they do to try to generate income. So I legitimately have a small business. I'm compliant with the T&C if it ever came to that.


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