New name for what we do
#16
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 539
Bear, of course the point is to subvert the intended purposes of these programs, offers, databases, etc. YQ tricks, taking advantage of obvious price errors, using promo codes that are targetted and obviously aren't intended for them, doing BPGs and then cancelling, using cash back codes/promos in ways that violate the terms of service because a glitch lets it go through, applying for 2 CC's simultaneously on different browers etc. I'm all for it, but come on. Even if you're not enaged in any of it you've got to realize folks doing these things comprise a significant portion of this community.
#20
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: ORD/MDW
Programs: BA/AA/AS/B6/WN/ UA/HH/MR and more like 'em but most felicitously & importantly MUCCI
Posts: 19,719
Bear, of course the point is to subvert the intended purposes of these programs, offers, databases, etc. YQ tricks, taking advantage of obvious price errors, using promo codes that are targetted and obviously aren't intended for them, doing BPGs and then cancelling, using cash back codes/promos in ways that violate the terms of service because a glitch lets it go through, applying for 2 CC's simultaneously on different browers etc. I'm all for it, but come on. Even if you're not enaged in any of it you've got to realize folks doing these things comprise a significant portion of this community.
Since FT has grown well-known we get a steady stream of newbies here who start by wanting to know how to fly in F all the time without status, miles or payment... how to achieve Platinum or Plutonium Tier or whatever without any effort... etc. They are invariably disappointed, even angry, to know the community is about making the best of these programs... not short-circuiting the system completely.
#21
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 539
Bear, I think there's a bit of dissonance in what you're saying between the aknowledged activities of a large number of people and what you believe this community as a whole stands for. I'm curious what percentage of FT people you believe haven't violated a TOS or otherwise engaged in activities they know are against the rules of a program/offer? There's all kinds of shades of grey here, ethical and legal questions, in terms of the activities being promoted. And it's far more complicated than claiming the community is just about making the best of programs.
#26
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: PDX
Programs: DL, UA, AA, BA, AS, SPG, MR, IHG, PC
Posts: 862
Bear, of course the point is to subvert the intended purposes of these programs, offers, databases, etc. YQ tricks, taking advantage of obvious price errors, using promo codes that are targetted and obviously aren't intended for them, doing BPGs and then cancelling, using cash back codes/promos in ways that violate the terms of service because a glitch lets it go through, applying for 2 CC's simultaneously on different browers etc. I'm all for it, but come on. Even if you're not enaged in any of it you've got to realize folks doing these things comprise a significant portion of this community.
#27
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: ORD/MDW
Programs: BA/AA/AS/B6/WN/ UA/HH/MR and more like 'em but most felicitously & importantly MUCCI
Posts: 19,719
I'm going to presume sarcasm here... yeah, between this and the extreme anti-TSA vocalists in TS&S declaring, with dead seriousness, they want TSA employees to commit suicide en masse, it's been a rough few days for FT's image. Aargh.