Bear, of course the point is to subvert the intended purposes of these programs, offers, databases, etc. YQ tricks, taking advantage of obvious price errors, using promo codes that are targetted and obviously aren't intended for them, doing BPGs and then cancelling, using cash back codes/promos in ways that violate the terms of service because a glitch lets it go through, applying for 2 CC's simultaneously on different browers etc. I'm all for it, but come on. Even if you're not enaged in any of it you've got to realize folks doing these things comprise a significant portion of this community.