Bear, I think there's a bit of dissonance in what you're saying between the aknowledged activities of a large number of people and what you believe this community as a whole stands for. I'm curious what percentage of FT people you believe haven't violated a TOS or otherwise engaged in activities they know are against the rules of a program/offer? There's all kinds of shades of grey here, ethical and legal questions, in terms of the activities being promoted. And it's far more complicated than claiming the community is just about making the best of programs.