YX Schedule Changes
#2

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Atl-mke
As of Aug 2
ATL-MKE
6:48 flight is gone,
11:20 becomes 11:50
and they add a 5:00 pm flight.
MKE-ATL
8:20 flight becomes 7:45
Add a 1:30 pm flight
7:45 pm flight is gone.
ATL-MKE
6:48 flight is gone,
11:20 becomes 11:50
and they add a 5:00 pm flight.
MKE-ATL
8:20 flight becomes 7:45
Add a 1:30 pm flight
7:45 pm flight is gone.
#3
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: MSP
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Assuming the YX website now reflects any changes, all 4 of our paid itins (MSP-MKE-STL-MKE-MSP) are on flights still flying. All segments are morning flights on Midwest Connect (2820/2631/2541/2825) exc. one MKE-MSP afternoon on YX 4.
They made minor changes to flight times, shortened one recurring connection from 25 to 20 minutes. We're ok, I think.
Current prices of the itins are 2.64X what I paid.
They made minor changes to flight times, shortened one recurring connection from 25 to 20 minutes. We're ok, I think.
Current prices of the itins are 2.64X what I paid.
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These are just time changes, no reduction in frequency ... I think it's more accurate to say what everyone is really waiting for is the announcement of capacity changes, not just changes in schedule.
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#7
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#8
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okay, what am I missing...
As of Aug 2
ATL-MKE
6:48 flight is gone,
11:20 becomes 11:50
and they add a 5:00 pm flight.
MKE-ATL
8:20 flight becomes 7:45
Add a 1:30 pm flight
7:45 pm flight is gone.
ATL-MKE
6:48 flight is gone,
11:20 becomes 11:50
and they add a 5:00 pm flight.
MKE-ATL
8:20 flight becomes 7:45
Add a 1:30 pm flight
7:45 pm flight is gone.
#9
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: MKE
Posts: 2,161
WTMJ-TV is reporting FLL and AUS will be eliminated.
Complete schedule changes should be loaded Sunday.
http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local...?video=YHI&t=a
Complete schedule changes should be loaded Sunday.
http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local...?video=YHI&t=a
Last edited by RSVP; Jul 18, 2008 at 4:55 pm
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#13
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WTMJ-TV is reporting FLL and AUS will be eliminated.
Complete schedule changes should be loaded Sunday.
http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local...?video=YHI&t=a
Complete schedule changes should be loaded Sunday.
http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local...?video=YHI&t=a
AUS has been known for awhile now. FLL has been scheduled to end August 4th but return in the fall. We'll see if that still happens.
#14
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,653
No word...or shall I say no leak...yet.
However I think we can get a rather good clue from the website.
Schedule changes are not instant, and it often takes a couple of days for a new schedule to show up in third-party sales channels like Orbitz. But changing fare inventory shows up immediately. In a case like this, when you see all the fare buckets wiped out except full coach, that's usually a clear sign. It's an immediate way to for them to (essentially) halt the sale of tickets to a market being dropped. Even if the flights don't disappear on their website until Sunday, and perhaps the new schedule isn't on Orbitz until Tuesday or Wednesday, they have already in essence stopped selling tickets to dropped cities.
Book a week-long leisure trip for late this fall and you'll find lots of round trips in the $200-$400 range depending on city pair...except certain nonstop city pairs show a round trip of $900-$1500. A sure sign.
These eleven destinations appear to be the goners.
Mainline markets
Fort Myers
Fort Lauderdale
San Diego
CRJ markets
Hartford
Raleigh
Baltimore
San Antonio
St Louis
Louisville
Muskegon
Wausau
I've heard they were in negoatiations with Skywest not only for better rates but for fewer aircraft, and this would suggest they have gone that direction.
The biggest surprises for me at San Diego and Hartford. The Florida markets are no surprise. Raleigh and Baltimore are largely leisure traffic, and MCI-SAT seemed to be the same. St Louis and Louisville had good fares but just had a hard time filling the CRJ. Wausau didn't have the best yields for connections, and poor Muskegon just can't fill a CRJ.
What we don't know, of course, are the flight frequencies of the new schedule. But it looks very likely that these markets are going and the rest are staying.
However I think we can get a rather good clue from the website.
Schedule changes are not instant, and it often takes a couple of days for a new schedule to show up in third-party sales channels like Orbitz. But changing fare inventory shows up immediately. In a case like this, when you see all the fare buckets wiped out except full coach, that's usually a clear sign. It's an immediate way to for them to (essentially) halt the sale of tickets to a market being dropped. Even if the flights don't disappear on their website until Sunday, and perhaps the new schedule isn't on Orbitz until Tuesday or Wednesday, they have already in essence stopped selling tickets to dropped cities.
Book a week-long leisure trip for late this fall and you'll find lots of round trips in the $200-$400 range depending on city pair...except certain nonstop city pairs show a round trip of $900-$1500. A sure sign.
These eleven destinations appear to be the goners.
Mainline markets
Fort Myers
Fort Lauderdale
San Diego
CRJ markets
Hartford
Raleigh
Baltimore
San Antonio
St Louis
Louisville
Muskegon
Wausau
I've heard they were in negoatiations with Skywest not only for better rates but for fewer aircraft, and this would suggest they have gone that direction.
The biggest surprises for me at San Diego and Hartford. The Florida markets are no surprise. Raleigh and Baltimore are largely leisure traffic, and MCI-SAT seemed to be the same. St Louis and Louisville had good fares but just had a hard time filling the CRJ. Wausau didn't have the best yields for connections, and poor Muskegon just can't fill a CRJ.
What we don't know, of course, are the flight frequencies of the new schedule. But it looks very likely that these markets are going and the rest are staying.
#15
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,800
Oh well, I guess it's back to United for those flights
This comment has been made before, but Michael Brophy has done a horrible job managing the PR for Midwest in general. He's made specific comments ranging from "no destinations will be cut" to "leisure travelers won't be happy." It looks like he was off on both counts. I understand the bad position Midwest finds itself in but they should show Brophy the door.

