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Old Jun 2, 2016, 7:23 am
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AMM transit with two airlines

We will be making a transit in AMM. TLV-AMM On Royal Jordanian, a 16 hour Layover, then AMM-DXB on Emirates. I don't really want to pay $56 per person for a visa to go to Amman for a few hours, nor do I want to pay for a cab to the city or any of that. What options do I have for not paying it? Transit Visa or checking luggage through to DXB? (Luggage pick up is past where you have to buy the visa)
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Old Jun 2, 2016, 8:14 am
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16 hours in AMM just to save the 56$? Oh my, how many Sudoku can you solve?
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Since you didn't specify your nationality, here are the full list of visa options/requirements.

Otherwise you can always ask RJ to check your baggage through, there is always a chance they will say yes.

[KVS Tool 8.0.6/Diamond - TIMATIC: Country Information: Visa]
Code:
[Visa Information] Jordan (JO)

Visa required.

 Visa Exemptions:
- Nationals of Jordan.
- Nationals of Bahrain, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Qatar, Saudi
  Arabia, Turkey and United Arab Emirates for a maximum stay
  of 3 months. (SEE NOTE 66919) (SEE NOTE 66922) 
    NOTE 66919: This does not apply to passengers with an
   emergency passport. 
    NOTE 66922: This does not apply to passengers with a
   temporary passport. 
- Nationals of Egypt for a maximum stay of 1 month. (SEE NOTE
  66919) 
    NOTE 66919: This does not apply to passengers with an
   emergency passport. 
- Passengers with  The Palestinian Authority  passport for a
  maximum stay of 1 month. (SEE NOTE 60664) 
    NOTE 60664: Not applicable to passengers whose passport
   number starts with 00. They must obtain a visa prior to
   travel.
- Passengers with a diplomatic passport; 
 - This does not apply to nationals of Iraq and Myanmar.
- Passengers with a residence permit issued by Jordan if their
  stay outside Jordan does not exceed 6 months. (SEE NOTE
  55469) 
    NOTE 55469: This does not apply to nationals of Libya,
   Syria and Yemen. 
- Nationals of Libya, Syria and Yemen with a residence permit
  issued by Jordan. The residence permit must be valid for a
  minimum of 6 months from the arrival date. 
- Nationals of Libya, Syria and Yemen with a residence permit
  issued by GCC Member States [[TIRGL/GCC]]. The residence
  permit must be valid for a minimum of 6 months from the
  arrival date. 
- Nationals of Libya, Syria and Yemen with a residence permit
  issued by Switzerland or EEA Member States [[TIRGL/EEA]] .
  The residence permit must be valid for a minimum of 6 months
  from the arrival date. 
- Nationals of Libya, Syria and Yemen with a Permanent
  Resident or Resident Alien Card (Form I-551) issued by the
  USA. The residence permit must be valid for a minimum of 6
  months from the arrival date. 
- Nationals of Libya, Syria and Yemen with a residence permit
  issued by Australia, Canada and Japan. The residence permit
  must be valid for a minimum of 6 months from the arrival
  date. 
- Passengers with a "Laissez-Passer" issued by the United
  Nations and a prior approval issued by the Jordanian
  Ministry of Interior. 

 TWOV (Transit Without Visa):
- Holders of onward tickets for a max. transit [[TIRULES/R32]] 
  time of 48 hours. 

 Merchant Seamen:
- Merchant Seamen arriving by air in order to board a ship, or
  if arriving by ship in order to board an aircraft must
  travel on duty and hold a Letter of Employment or Letter of
  Guarantee of the shipping company. 
- Visa is not required for Merchant Seamen if their
  nationality is mentioned under visa exemptions applicable to
  normal passport holders.
- Merchant Seamen who can transit without a visa when the
  continuing journey is to a third country by same or first
  connecting aircraft within:
  - 6 hours without leaving the airport;
  - 6 to 24 hours: Merchant Seamen must leave the airport. 
  Seaman Book or passport must be left at the immigration
  desk. Ticket with reserved seat and documents for onward
  journey required. 

 Crew Members:
- Same regulations as for passengers apply.
 - Nationals of Iraq being crew members on duty are visa
   exempt.

 Military:
- Visa not required for US military members and Department of
  Defense (DoD) personnel if holding a US Military ID card
  (i.e.CAC card) and a travel order. 

 Visa Issuance:
- Nationals of Algeria, Japan and South Africa can obtain a
  visa on arrival for a max. stay of 30 days. Free of charge.
  Extension possible. (SEE NOTE 56126)
    NOTE 56126: Not applicable to holders of emergency or
   temporary passports, who must obtain a visa prior to
   travel.
- Passengers with a Hong Kong (SAR China) passport can obtain
  a visa on arrival for a max. stay of 30 days. Free of
  charge. Extension possible. 
- Nationals of Morocco can obtain a visa on arrival for a max.
  stay of 30 days. Free of charge. Extension possible. (SEE
  NOTE 56126)
 - Females between the age of 17 and 35 years of age require
   prior approval obtained from the Ministry of Interior,
   except if:
   - accompanied by their husband, father or brother; or 
   - being a member of an official delegation; or
   - being the daughter of high ranking personnel. 
    NOTE 56126: Not applicable to holders of emergency or
   temporary passports, who must obtain a visa prior to
   travel.
- Holders of normal passports issued to nationals of Sri Lanka
  traveling on business (or as an official delegate) can
  obtain visa on arrival, for a max. stay of 2 months,
  provided:
  - traveling on Royal Jordanian (RJ); and
  - holding hotel reservation in a 3 to 5 star hotel; and
  - holding official documents confirming business or official
  delegate status. 
  Fee: JOD 40.-. 
- Nationals of Iraq with a normal passport can obtain a visa
  on arrival if holding:
  - an official "Businessmen card" issued by Jordan; or 
  - an official letter for a delegate, confirming the
  attendance to a conference or workshop. 
- Nationals of Iraq with a normal passport can obtain a visa
  on arrival if holding permanent residence permit issued by a
  country whose nationals can obtain a visa on arrival other
  than Lebanon, Libya, Syria or Yemen.
- Nationals of Iraq with a diplomatic or service passport can
  obtain a visa on arrival. (SEE NOTE 54943)
    NOTE 54943: Visa on arrival fees:
   - JOD 40.- for stay of max. 2 months and single entry;
   - JOD 60.- valid for 3 months and two entries;
   - JOD 120.- valid for 6 months and multiple entries.
- Holders of normal passports issued to nationals of India
  traveling as tourist, can obtain a visa on arrival for a
  max. stay of 2 weeks, provided:
  - holding a return/onward ticket, pre-paid hotel reservation
  and at least USD 1000.-.  
  or
  - holding a return/onward ticket and at least USD 2000.-
  Fee: JOD 40.- applies. 
- Nationals of any country can obtain a single entry visa on
  arrival. (SEE NOTE 72424) (SEE NOTE 72427) (SEE NOTE 72430)
  (SEE NOTE 72433) (SEE NOTE 56126) 
    NOTE 56126: Not applicable to holders of emergency or
   temporary passports, who must obtain a visa prior to
   travel.
    NOTE 72424: This does not apply to nationals of
   Afghanistan, Albania, Angola, Bangladesh, Belize, Benin,
   Botswana, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon,
   Central African Rep., Chad, Colombia, Comoros, Congo, Congo
   (Dem. Rep.), Cote d'Ivoire, Cuba, Djibouti, Equatorial
   Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana,
   Guinea-Bissau, Guinea, Iran, Iraq, Kenya, Lao People's Dem.
   Rep., Liberia, Madagascar, Mali, Mauritania, Moldova
   (Rep.), Mongolia, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Nepal,
   Niger, Nigeria, Pakistan, Papua New Guinea, Philippines,
   Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Sudan, Sri Lanka,
   Sudan, Tanzania, Togo, Uganda, Viet Nam and Zambia. 
    NOTE 72427: This does not apply to passengers with "The
   Palestinian Authority  passport.
    NOTE 72430: This does not apply to passengers with a Hong
   Kong (SAR China) passport.
    NOTE 72433: This does not apply to passengers with a Macao
   (SAR China) passport.
- Holders of normal passports issued to nationals of India,
  can obtain a visa on arrival for a max. stay of 30 days,
  provided holding a residence permit issued by a third
  country, except: Afghanistan, Albania, Angola, Bangladesh,
  Belize, Benin, Botswana, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia,
  Cameroon, Central African Rep., Chad, Colombia, Comoros,
  Congo, Congo (Dem. Rep.), Cote d'Ivoire, Cuba, Djibouti,
  Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana,
  Guinea-Bissau, Guinea, Iran, Kenya, Lao People's Dem. Rep.,
  Lebanon, Liberia, Madagascar, Mali, Mauritania, Moldova
  (Rep.), Mongolia, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Nepal,
  Niger, Nigeria, Pakistan, Papua New Guinea, Philippines,
  Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Sudan, Sri Lanka,
  Sudan, Syria, Tanzania, Togo, Uganda, Viet Nam, Yemen or
  Zambia. 
- Nationals of any country can obtain a visa free of charge,
  provided 
  
  - passenger travels as part of a tour arranged by a licensed
  Jordanian tourist or travel agency; and
  - group is not less than 5 persons; and
  - staying a minimum of 2 nights in Jordan; and
  - holding a return ticket. (SEE NOTE 72424) (SEE NOTE 72427)
  (SEE NOTE 72430) (SEE NOTE 72433) (SEE NOTE 56126) 
    NOTE 56126: Not applicable to holders of emergency or
   temporary passports, who must obtain a visa prior to
   travel.
    NOTE 72424: This does not apply to nationals of
   Afghanistan, Albania, Angola, Bangladesh, Belize, Benin,
   Botswana, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon,
   Central African Rep., Chad, Colombia, Comoros, Congo, Congo
   (Dem. Rep.), Cote d'Ivoire, Cuba, Djibouti, Equatorial
   Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana,
   Guinea-Bissau, Guinea, Iran, Iraq, Kenya, Lao People's Dem.
   Rep., Liberia, Madagascar, Mali, Mauritania, Moldova
   (Rep.), Mongolia, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Nepal,
   Niger, Nigeria, Pakistan, Papua New Guinea, Philippines,
   Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Sudan, Sri Lanka,
   Sudan, Tanzania, Togo, Uganda, Viet Nam and Zambia. 
    NOTE 72427: This does not apply to passengers with "The
   Palestinian Authority  passport.
    NOTE 72430: This does not apply to passengers with a Hong
   Kong (SAR China) passport.
    NOTE 72433: This does not apply to passengers with a Macao
   (SAR China) passport.
- Holders of official passports issued to nationals of
  Afghanistan, Albania, Angola, Bangladesh, Belize, Benin,
  Botswana, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Central
  African Rep., Chad, Colombia, Comoros, Congo, Congo (Dem.
  Rep.), Cote d'Ivoire, Cuba, Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea,
  Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea-Bissau,
  Guinea, India, Iran, Kenya, Lao People's Dem. Rep., Liberia,
  Madagascar, Mali, Mauritania, Moldova (Rep.), Mongolia,
  Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Niger, Nigeria, Pakistan, Papua
  New Guinea, Philippines, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somalia,
  South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Tanzania, Togo, Uganda, Viet
  Nam and Zambia can obtain a visa on arrival. (SEE NOTE
  54943)
    NOTE 54943: Visa on arrival fees:
   - JOD 40.- for stay of max. 2 months and single entry;
   - JOD 60.- valid for 3 months and two entries;
   - JOD 120.- valid for 6 months and multiple entries.
- Nationals of Angola, Benin, Botswana, Burkina Faso, Burundi,
  Cameroon, Central African Rep., Chad, Comoros, Congo, Congo
  (Dem. Rep.), Cote d'Ivoire, Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea,
  Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea-Bissau,
  Guinea, Kenya, Liberia, Madagascar, Mali, Mauritania,
  Mozambique, Namibia, Niger, Nigeria, Philippines, Senegal,
  Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Tanzania, Togo,
  Uganda and Zambia holding a valid Resident Permit and
  Re-entry permit issued by Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar,
  Saudi Arabia or the United Arab Emirates can obtain a single
  entry visa on arrival for a max. stay of 2 months. Fee: JOD
  40.-. (SEE NOTE 56126)
    NOTE 56126: Not applicable to holders of emergency or
   temporary passports, who must obtain a visa prior to
   travel.
- Holders of consular, diplomatic, official, service and
  special passports, issued to nationals of Myanmar can obtain
  a visa on arrival for a max. stay of 30 days.
- Accompanying staff (housemaids, drivers), traveling with
  their employer, can obtain a visa on arrival for a max. stay
  of 3 months. (SEE NOTE 42016) (SEE NOTE 55469) (SEE NOTE
  56126)
    NOTE 42016: Not applicable to nationals of Myanmar.
    NOTE 55469: This does not apply to nationals of Libya,
   Syria and Yemen. 
    NOTE 56126: Not applicable to holders of emergency or
   temporary passports, who must obtain a visa prior to
   travel.
- Passengers with a Macao (SAR China) passport can obtain a
  single entry visa on arrival. (SEE NOTE 56126) (SEE NOTE
  54943) 
    NOTE 54943: Visa on arrival fees:
   - JOD 40.- for stay of max. 2 months and single entry;
   - JOD 60.- valid for 3 months and two entries;
   - JOD 120.- valid for 6 months and multiple entries.
    NOTE 56126: Not applicable to holders of emergency or
   temporary passports, who must obtain a visa prior to
   travel.
- Holders of an Interpol passport can obtain a visa on
  arrival, provided traveling on duty and the Interpol office
  in Amman has been notified prior to arrival.

 Additional Information:
- Holders of travel documents issued stateless persons and
  refugees issued by Libya are also required to hold security
  approval, obtained prior to their arrival in Jordan.
- Holders of a "Laissez-Passer" must hold a prior approval
  issued by the Jordanian Ministry of Interior.
- Passengers transiting Amman (AMM) to Aqaba (AQJ) must
  complete their entry formalities upon arrival at AMM.
- Passengers with  The Palestinian Authority  passports may
  continue overland to the Palestinian Territory.

 Warning:
- Visitors not holding return/onward tickets could be refused
  entry.
 - Exempt are government workers continuing to Iraq.
- Nationals of Syria must hold return/onward tickets.
- Female nationals of Morocco and Tunisia must hold
  return/onward tickets.
- Holders of normal passports issued to nationals of
  Afghanistan, Albania, Angola, Bangladesh, Belize, Benin,
  Botswana, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Central
  African Rep., Chad, Colombia, Comoros, Congo, Congo (Dem.
  Rep.), Cote d'Ivoire, Cuba, Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea,
  Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea-Bissau,
  Guinea, Iran, Iraq, Kenya, Lao People's Dem. Rep., Liberia,
  Madagascar, Mali, Mauritania, Moldova (Rep.), Mongolia,
  Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Niger, Nigeria, Pakistan, Papua
  New Guinea, Philippines, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somalia,
  South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Tanzania, Togo, Uganda, Viet
  Nam and Zambia must hold security approval, obtained prior
  to arrival. 

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Old Jun 2, 2016, 1:55 pm
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American. And that doesn't answer transit visa questions at all. I was actually looking for experience rather than speculation
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Old Jun 2, 2016, 3:03 pm
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You can get a free transit visa on a connection under 24 hours....then get Uber to anywhere in town for 15JD each way.

Otherwise RJ lounge airside for 30JD,it's good,but not for 16 hours.

Re:checking baggage thru,generally RJ policy is not to interline bags to non RJ/OW flights on separate bookings,but the staff at TLV may apply discretion and entertain your request.
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Old Jun 2, 2016, 7:27 pm
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Originally Posted by kissthesky
American. And that doesn't answer transit visa questions at all. I was actually looking for experience rather than speculation
Keep your pants up, Ditto's post was anything but speculation! It's exactly the info available to airlines all over the world (Timatic). It does answer transit visa questions, and you should thank him/her instead of giving "nasty" replies. As for experience, if you hoped to find many Americans in FT who preferred to spend 16 hours at AMM instead of spending $56, well you should fly to Las Vegas instead. The chances for a jackpot are clearly higher.
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Old Jun 7, 2016, 10:03 am
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I transited AMM, though all on RJ... You can stay in the airport and simply go to the transfer desk to get your onward boarding pass. RJ should interline your bags to DXB upon request. However, I was in the airport for only 3 hours and it is INCREDIBLY boring. I was in business and the lounge is fine and serviceable, but 3 hours was more than enough to make me ready to leave. I'd suggest getting the visa and leaving the airport.
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Old Jun 7, 2016, 10:26 am
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Originally Posted by DrinkRaiderade
I transited AMM, though all on RJ... You can stay in the airport and simply go to the transfer desk to get your onward boarding pass. RJ should interline your bags to DXB upon request. However, I was in the airport for only 3 hours and it is INCREDIBLY boring. I was in business and the lounge is fine and serviceable, but 3 hours was more than enough to make me ready to leave. I'd suggest getting the visa and leaving the airport.
I am not sure the EK transit desk is open 24/7.
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Old Jun 12, 2016, 12:43 pm
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As you know from Ditto's post, you don't need a visa.

Yes, you can interline luggage between RJ & EK without problem.

Rather than paying for a taxi, you can take the Royal Jordanian bus to their city ticket office on the 7th Circle. It only costs JOD 2.

http://www.rj.com/en/to_from_qaia.html

There are great places to eat in Amman, especially Lebanese fare.

If you don't want to spend time in Amman, shell out a few bucks and see the ruins at Jerresh or the old church at Madaba. For that matter, with 16 hours to spare you have enough time to get to Petra and back if you hire a taxi at AMM.

Taxis in Jordan are regulated, not very expensive, run by the meter, and are honest.
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Old Jun 12, 2016, 4:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Indelaware
As you know from Ditto's post, you don't need a visa.

Yes, you can interline luggage between RJ & EK without problem.

Rather than paying for a taxi, you can take the Royal Jordanian bus to their city ticket office on the 7th Circle. It only costs JOD 2.

http://www.rj.com/en/to_from_qaia.html

There are great places to eat in Amman, especially Lebanese fare.

If you don't want to spend time in Amman, shell out a few bucks and see the ruins at Jerresh or the old church at Madaba. For that matter, with 16 hours to spare you have enough time to get to Petra and back if you hire a taxi at AMM.

Taxis in Jordan are regulated, not very expensive, run by the meter, and are honest.
RJ buses only allow passengers from 7th circle city terminal to the airport and not from the airport.For the return journey you'd have to get Sariyah buses that go to Tabarbour station,but they stop on request anywhere enroute including all the circles from 7th to 1st. On 7th circle they stop on the other side of the highway from the RJ office and taxis wait for the passengers at that bus stop. These ones would not agree to go by the meter and quote a minimum fare of 5JD or so (this is in regards to the honesty comment ),but if you get off at say 6th circle you can get a normal taxi on the meter passing by.

The fare nowadays AFAIK is 3 or 3:50JD and RJ buses from 7th circle let OWE and J cl pax ride for free.

Personally I would suggest Uber,in Amman unlike most other cities all the card are owned by a single company and it's a brand new fleet and it also accepts cash.

Again,I would not be so certain that the baggage interline will 100% be possible,especially in the light of the latest restrictions on OW interline on separate tix. That said I heard a few anecdotes of RJ interlining to EY,but I would not count on that.
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Originally Posted by kissthesky
American. And that doesn't answer transit visa questions at all. I was actually looking for experience rather than speculation
Actually it does quite specifically answer Transit Visa questions. If you don't care to read through the text, try CTRL-F to search.
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At the beggining of the piece it seems to say that up to 48 hour transit visa is free - is this correct?
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Originally Posted by benberg2013
At the beggining of the piece it seems to say that up to 48 hour transit visa is free - is this correct?
Yes,I myself only recently found out that such visa exists.
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AMM, land sleep leave for DOH, then back help needed

Landing midnight at AMM on TK from IST. Turns out a good friend will be in Doha, so would like to go meet up for a day, then come back to AMM to start our trip through Jordan and Israel. These would be TWO separate tickets.
Questions:

(1) I see a 1:50am flight from AMM-DOH. Landing at midnight, maybe slight delay given it is TK, would that be enough time to transit, or should I book the 8am AMM-DOH flight?

(2) If staying until 8am, probably makes sense to get a room. The airport hotel seems to have a meet/greet+breakfast rate and it looks cheap and clean/safe. Anyone think otherwise?

(3) Visa... Should we do a transit visa, then after we spend a day/night in DOH and come back to AMM get a normal tourist visa? Or can we do some kind of multi-entry tourist visa? I understand there may be a difference between what is allowed and what will be straight forward when dealing with immigration. I'm wondering if having the meet/greet from the hotel might help me get things explained/sorted with immigration? I have plenty of time so could get a visa through the embassy in the USA if that helps.

So, to sum up:
  • Land midnight AMM on TK
  • Depart for DOH at 1:50am or 8am on RJ
  • Spend the day and overnight in DOH
  • Fly back to AMM noon on RJ and then dive into tourist time
  • Advice welcomed/needed

Thanks. Rami Tamimi, any chance you're seeing this? You seem like the expert on all things AMM.
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Originally Posted by abaheti
Landing midnight at AMM on TK from IST. Turns out a good friend will be in Doha, so would like to go meet up for a day, then come back to AMM to start our trip through Jordan and Israel. These would be TWO separate tickets.
Questions:

(1) I see a 1:50am flight from AMM-DOH. Landing at midnight, maybe slight delay given it is TK, would that be enough time to transit, or should I book the 8am AMM-DOH flight?

(2) If staying until 8am, probably makes sense to get a room. The airport hotel seems to have a meet/greet+breakfast rate and it looks cheap and clean/safe. Anyone think otherwise?

(3) Visa... Should we do a transit visa, then after we spend a day/night in DOH and come back to AMM get a normal tourist visa? Or can we do some kind of multi-entry tourist visa? I understand there may be a difference between what is allowed and what will be straight forward when dealing with immigration. I'm wondering if having the meet/greet from the hotel might help me get things explained/sorted with immigration? I have plenty of time so could get a visa through the embassy in the USA if that helps.

So, to sum up:
  • Land midnight AMM on TK
  • Depart for DOH at 1:50am or 8am on RJ
  • Spend the day and overnight in DOH
  • Fly back to AMM noon on RJ and then dive into tourist time
  • Advice welcomed/needed

Thanks. Rami Tamimi, any chance you're seeing this? You seem like the expert on all things AMM.
Originally Posted by abaheti
Landing midnight at AMM on TK from IST. Turns out a good friend will be in Doha, so would like to go meet up for a day, then come back to AMM to start our trip through Jordan and Israel. These would be TWO separate tickets.
Questions:

(1) I see a 1:50am flight from AMM-DOH. Landing at midnight, maybe slight delay given it is TK, would that be enough time to transit, or should I book the 8am AMM-DOH flight?

(2) If staying until 8am, probably makes sense to get a room. The airport hotel seems to have a meet/greet+breakfast rate and it looks cheap and clean/safe. Anyone think otherwise?

(3) Visa... Should we do a transit visa, then after we spend a day/night in DOH and come back to AMM get a normal tourist visa? Or can we do some kind of multi-entry tourist visa? I understand there may be a difference between what is allowed and what will be straight forward when dealing with immigration. I'm wondering if having the meet/greet from the hotel might help me get things explained/sorted with immigration? I have plenty of time so could get a visa through the embassy in the USA if that helps.

So, to sum up:
  • Land midnight AMM on TK
  • Depart for DOH at 1:50am or 8am on RJ
  • Spend the day and overnight in DOH
  • Fly back to AMM noon on RJ and then dive into tourist time
  • Advice welcomed/needed

Thanks. Rami Tamimi, any chance you're seeing this? You seem like the expert on all things AMM.
1)Airport wise 1:50 is plenty of time. RJ closes the gate at T-15 min, so you have 1:30 to get to your gate if everything is on time. You will probably be at the gate 15 minutes after stepping off your TK flight.

-It helps that you are departing on RJ, because there is transit desk there and if you were slightly delayed they can fast track you thru security to make sure you get on.
-What does not help is that midnight is a very busy time in AMM because you have RJ111 arriving from LHR, which means that there is a possibility that you will be behind 150-200 pax transferring to BKK and Gulf flights. That said, the RJ transit desk rep can help you and inform the gate reps that you are coming and fast track you (it's normal in AMM).

AMM is really small and compact, I actually always manage to get out landside, meet a friend, go back in and chill in the lounge on those 2 hours connection....but the difference is that I am always on a single ticket issued by RJ, whereas in your case you 've got 2 tickets on two different airlines, so they don't have to offer you any protection if your TK flight is late (say by 1 hour).

What I would do in your situation is to get the ticket for the 1:50 am departure and if you find that your IST flight is delayed by over an hour to call RJ and to cancel the reservation (not the ticket itself). This way you would avoid paying the no show fee and would pay the penalty (should be around 40EUR even on the lowest fares, but check the conditions before purchasing+ potential fare difference). You may even get lucky and get the penalty and/or fare difference waived if you get a sympathetic agent....they absolutely don't have to do that, but they may. It helps if you are an OW elite of course.

2) Have not checked their rates recently, what are they quoting? It's not a great hotel, just your average 4 star airport hotel. I would not pay over 100$ for it (150$ maximum, if meet and greet and breakfast are included).

3)Get the transit visa on your first arrival and a single visa on the second one. It only makes sense to get the visa in the embassy if you want to save some time in the airport on arrival. If you decide to do that ,then perhaps it's better to get the double visa for 98$ (single is 68$) just to get out of the airport faster.

To sum up, it really depends on your personality. Are you willing to take a small risk,or do you prefer to play it safe? Are you willing to pay 30$ to avoid quing up for visa on arrival (you'd have to que up for a visa first and then another time for immigration clearance).

That's all I can think of for now,but feel free to ask any other questions.
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