Apr 16, 2018, 4:15 pm
Last edit by: dayone
This thread (post #5 from Marriott Rewards Insider) has the official announcement of changes effective later in 2018.
An earlier, speculative discussion appears in the following closed thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...tus-tiers.html
An earlier, speculative discussion appears in the following closed thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...tus-tiers.html
Official announcement – See how our three loyalty programs will become one in August
May 29, 2018, 1:50 pm
#826
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 6,385
does anyone know how the hotel and air 7night certs are going to map?
May 29, 2018, 3:12 pm
#827
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: GTA
Programs: AC E, HH Gold
Posts: 93
I'm curently Marriott Gold from AMEX, and my Plat challenge ends begining of July, if I do not complete the challenge my gold will be converted to Plat in Aug, and if challenge is completed I will be going from Plat to Plat primer correct?
May 29, 2018, 3:44 pm
#828
Join Date: Dec 2003
Programs: AA Plat Pro, United Silver, Marriott LTT, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, IHG Platinum
Posts: 1,120
Not sure why anyone would think this is complicated. Suppose before the new program starts someone has the following counters:
- MR: YTD: 51 LT: 333
- SPG: YTD: 12 LT: 100
- MR: YTD: 51 LT: 333
- SPG: YTD: 13 LT: 101
- NEW: YTD: 64 LT: 434
May 29, 2018, 4:36 pm
#829
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: BDU
Programs: DL:MM, Marriott:LTT
Posts: 8,779
One reason I question whether it will happen like this is that Marriott has said if you aren't LTPP under the legacy requirements by Aug 1, they won't recalculate it until Jan 1. (of course I can't find a link to it now, but I'm pretty sure that's how they stated it). If they were still operating the legacy system, couldn't/wouldn't they continue to offer LTPP to each member as the 750/2MM thresholds are reached, instead of waiting for an end-of-year sweep?
My totally uneducated guess was that the sites were programmed for the original rules where only MR LTP were going to be grandfathered to LTPP. When eligibility was (rightly) expanded it was too late to go back and tinker with the programming to allow automatic updates of the new criteria so they left it as is and are going to do a sweep in Jan. But that is just my guess.
What is stated:
In August, when members combine Rewards and SPG accounts, their lifetime nights across both programs count toward Lifetime Elite status in the new combined program. To be included in at previous thresholds for Rewards or SPG, members will have until December 31, 2018, to complete stays in order to achieve the Lifetime Elite status. <added by Starwood Lurker 18May18>
In August, members will be able to view their number of Elite level years to help track their eligibility towards Lifetime Statuses by visiting their My Account page on SPG.com, MarriottRewards.com or TheRitzCarltonRewards.com. <added by Starwood Lurker 25Apr18>
May 29, 2018, 5:58 pm
#830
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: SFO/YYZ
Programs: AC 25K, AS MVP Gold, BA Bronze, UA Silver, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,470
No. SPG golds who matched to MR gold stay at gold in the new program.
May 30, 2018, 5:35 am
#834
May 30, 2018, 11:12 am
#835
Join Date: May 2003
Location: LCY
Programs: SQ Krisflyer, QR Privilege Club, MB LT Plt (1K+ nights thx MB)
Posts: 1,038
Anybody have any insights if the Elite Nights earning rate for Marriott Executive Apartments of one Elite night credit for every three nights stayed will remain in the new program?
May 31, 2018, 6:10 pm
#836
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: SNA
Programs: Bonvoy LTTE/AMB, AmEx Plat, National EE, WN A-List, CLEAR+, Covid-19
Posts: 4,967
Got this in the mail today. Apologies if this (convoluted) thread has answered this definitively for sure now.
May 31, 2018, 11:53 pm
#837
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Danville, CA, USA;
Programs: UA 1MM, WN CP, Marriott LT Plat, Hilton Gold, IC Plat
Posts: 15,722
Email today has an * which in very tiny print states: "*Elite tier will be based on the status earned, not status granted via linking and status matching"
So the common sense reading is that those of us who are presently MR Gold via UA status will drop to nothing in August unless we have 10 EQN in the combined program. If that happens it will be Hasta La Vista to Marriott.
Maybe some additional incentive to hold a few Rewarding Meetings now.
So the common sense reading is that those of us who are presently MR Gold via UA status will drop to nothing in August unless we have 10 EQN in the combined program. If that happens it will be Hasta La Vista to Marriott.
Maybe some additional incentive to hold a few Rewarding Meetings now.
Jun 1, 2018, 5:24 am
#838
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Potomac Falls, VA
Programs: AA Plat 2MM, MR Gold, Avis Pref
Posts: 41,109
One reason I question whether it will happen like this is that Marriott has said if you aren't LTPP under the legacy requirements by Aug 1, they won't recalculate it until Jan 1. (of course I can't find a link to it now, but I'm pretty sure that's how they stated it). If they were still operating the legacy system, couldn't/wouldn't they continue to offer LTPP to each member as the 750/2MM thresholds are reached, instead of waiting for an end-of-year sweep?
As of this moment, I have <2M MR points there fore I am not LTP [current]/LTPP[post August]. I do have >750 nights in MR alone and >10 Years at Plat Elite status in MR alone. However that gets me MR LT Gold [current program] yet the new criteria will allow me to become MR LTPP [new combined program].
I see all the notifications that I will be "notified" in Jan 2019 that I'll have the new program LTPP status.
My question is - as far as status goes from the changeover date [August XX, 2018] thru the notification date [Jan XX, 2019] will my stays reflect my current LT Gold status OR the new LTPP status during this transition window period of Aug - Jan?
It actually makes a difference as to what chains [& even MR hotels] I stay at during this transition period. If I am not going to be LTPP, then I don't have any incentive [barring unknown promo's] to stay at MR unless it is a property that provides good MR Gold [current]/MR Plat [post august] benefits.
Jun 1, 2018, 5:50 am
#839
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: BDU
Programs: DL:MM, Marriott:LTT
Posts: 8,779
It actually makes a difference as to what chains [& even MR hotels] I stay at during this transition period. If I am not going to be LTPP, then I don't have any incentive [barring unknown promo's] to stay at MR unless it is a property that provides good MR Gold [current]/MR Plat [post august] benefits.
Jun 1, 2018, 7:11 am
#840
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,324
With multiple threads covering the same topic its difficult at best to know if this has been answered but since this question sort of refers to what I'm going to ask, I'll post this right here
As of this moment, I have <2M MR points there fore I am not LTP [current]/LTPP[post August]. I do have >750 nights in MR alone and >10 Years at Plat Elite status in MR alone. However that gets me MR LT Gold [current program] yet the new criteria will allow me to become MR LTPP [new combined program].
I see all the notifications that I will be "notified" in Jan 2019 that I'll have the new program LTPP status.
My question is - as far as status goes from the changeover date [August XX, 2018] thru the notification date [Jan XX, 2019] will my stays reflect my current LT Gold status OR the new LTPP status during this transition window period of Aug - Jan?
It actually makes a difference as to what chains [& even MR hotels] I stay at during this transition period. If I am not going to be LTPP, then I don't have any incentive [barring unknown promo's] to stay at MR unless it is a property that provides good MR Gold [current]/MR Plat [post august] benefits.
As of this moment, I have <2M MR points there fore I am not LTP [current]/LTPP[post August]. I do have >750 nights in MR alone and >10 Years at Plat Elite status in MR alone. However that gets me MR LT Gold [current program] yet the new criteria will allow me to become MR LTPP [new combined program].
I see all the notifications that I will be "notified" in Jan 2019 that I'll have the new program LTPP status.
My question is - as far as status goes from the changeover date [August XX, 2018] thru the notification date [Jan XX, 2019] will my stays reflect my current LT Gold status OR the new LTPP status during this transition window period of Aug - Jan?
It actually makes a difference as to what chains [& even MR hotels] I stay at during this transition period. If I am not going to be LTPP, then I don't have any incentive [barring unknown promo's] to stay at MR unless it is a property that provides good MR Gold [current]/MR Plat [post august] benefits.