Jul 30, 2016, 4:21 pm
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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
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Aug 6, 2018, 7:41 pm
#4756
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: CLT
Programs: Marriott Plat, AA Gold
Posts: 1,076
Thanks for posting. Do you see a travel package as a benefit or reward? Or do you see it as something more tangible? We receive points for staying, but when we have actually made a purchase with those points, I see them as something more tangible which is now a product, no longer a benefit. My reading of it, anyway. I do not see Marriott changing hotel categories or how they award points the same as changing the rules to an already purchased product.
Aug 6, 2018, 8:33 pm
#4757
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Toronto (YYZ)
Posts: 6,279
Aug 6, 2018, 9:27 pm
#4758
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: CLT
Programs: Marriott Plat, AA Gold
Posts: 1,076
Aug 6, 2018, 9:28 pm
#4759
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: GVA (Greater Vancouver Area)
Programs: DREAD Gold; UA 1.035MM; Bonvoy Au-197; PCC Elite+; CCC Elite+; MSC C-12; CWC Au-197; WoH Dis
Posts: 52,140
Aug 6, 2018, 9:32 pm
#4760
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 746
Remember: "federal preemption under the Airline Deregulation Act"
I think the issue here is a fairly narrow one about the extent to which Marriott is bound to honor actual, awarded vouchers (as opposed to potential awards that may be acquired via points). Airlines wouldn't be able to abrogate either a booked ticket or a voucher issued for some dollar amount for use in future travel.
Edit: I'd also point out that the T&C do not explicitly call out awarded instruments and that in the absence of such precise language--and remember that Marriott as the drafter of the contract has the burden to show these would be included.
I think the issue here is a fairly narrow one about the extent to which Marriott is bound to honor actual, awarded vouchers (as opposed to potential awards that may be acquired via points). Airlines wouldn't be able to abrogate either a booked ticket or a voucher issued for some dollar amount for use in future travel.
Edit: I'd also point out that the T&C do not explicitly call out awarded instruments and that in the absence of such precise language--and remember that Marriott as the drafter of the contract has the burden to show these would be included.
Aug 6, 2018, 10:31 pm
#4761
Join Date: Nov 2015
Programs: DL, Marriott & IHG Platty; HH Diamonte
Posts: 861
Aug 6, 2018, 10:46 pm
#4763
Join Date: Nov 2015
Programs: DL, Marriott & IHG Platty; HH Diamonte
Posts: 861
Aug 6, 2018, 10:50 pm
#4764
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 432
Aug 6, 2018, 10:51 pm
#4765
Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: EWR/PHL/BWI
Posts: 4,412
It's there.
https://www.marriott.com/...mi
https://www.marriott.com/...mi
Aug 7, 2018, 2:40 am
#4766
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 67
Thanks for posting. Do you see a travel package as a benefit or reward? Or do you see it as something more tangible? We receive points for staying, but when we have actually made a purchase with those points, I see them as something more tangible which is now a product, no longer a benefit. My reading of it, anyway. I do not see Marriott changing hotel categories or how they award points the same as changing the rules to an already purchased product.
Aug 7, 2018, 5:57 am
#4767
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: CLT
Programs: Marriott Plat, AA Gold
Posts: 1,076
I see a travel package as a Reward. The terms do, too. Whether a member characterizes a travel package as "something more tangible which is now a product," a certificate is no more than one of "his or her rights, responsibilities, and status in the Rewards Program," defined to be "Rewards", or individually, a "Reward." In sum, any Rewards Program right is defined as a Reward. And "any Reward may be withdrawn, and restrictions on any Reward or reward redemption ("Reward Redemption") may be imposed at any time." Though unnecessary, https://www.marriott.com/rewards/ter...trms.mi#travel specifically identifies "Travel Packages" and states "All Rewards Program Rules apply." Based on the above, any Reward (i.e., any right in the Rewards Program) may be withdrawn at any time. Of course, I am commenting on posts about the terms and conditions governing how Marriott can act, which to me is entirely separate from how Marriott will act.
My prediction - they stay as certs rounded down to the nearest category if the old/new points required don’t match up, and only that difference in points is refunded
Last edited by GoPhils; Aug 7, 2018 at 6:03 am
Aug 7, 2018, 7:38 am
#4768
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Toronto (YYZ)
Posts: 6,279
How do I know this? Because I've taken one of the companies to court and that is what happened
Aug 7, 2018, 8:02 am
#4769
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: 718
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Platinum, IHG Diamond
Posts: 967
Am I able to attach the 7nt cert myself when booking online or do I have to call a rep to attach it?
Aug 7, 2018, 8:06 am
#4770
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: CLT
Programs: Marriott Plat, AA Gold
Posts: 1,076
Congrats to you for getting that, but of course just because they settled doesn't necessarily mean they wouldn't have won in court.