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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
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#3526
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 48
#3527
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Sydney, Australia
Programs: QR/AC Gold, VA Silver, IHG Plat, Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 1,581
I also have a travel package Cat 8. At the moment, waiting for availability to open for Maui in December. Of course, the Marriott Maui is closed to award bookings. Decided that if it does not open, then the Westin would be a good option after August 1st merger and SPG properties coming to Marriott, as Peak and Off-Peak system does not start until 2019. One thing is for sure, after looking at this, I do want to use the Travel Package and be done with Marriott for a good while. It was a good run, with 4 Travel Packages (including two 5 night ones they gave me without being an MVC owner) redeemed in the last 3 years.
Ohh, and I forgot, 4 years of WN Companion Pass
Ohh, and I forgot, 4 years of WN Companion Pass
#3529
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: JRF
Programs: AA Gold, Marriott Platinum, Hilton Diamond, National Executive Elite
Posts: 1,784
Here's a question that seems somewhat unclear: Will old packages be useable at Starwood properties now (or be converted to new package equivalents)?
#3531
Join Date: Dec 2004
Programs: UA-1K, MM, Hilton-Diamond, Marriott-Titanium
Posts: 4,432
This thread has gotten soooooo long. So there are a bunch of Cat 6 going down to Cat 5 on August 1. Will the Cat 1-5 certificates be able to be used for them after 8/1. I guess it’s anybody’s guess.
#3532
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,324
No guessing needed. Definitely will not be able to use old Cat 1-5 with the point-based chart. The old certs will have to be converted to the new point-based certs after the new program begins.
#3533
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: JRF
Programs: AA Gold, Marriott Platinum, Hilton Diamond, National Executive Elite
Posts: 1,784
#3534
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 203
and the confirmation that travel packages will be devaluated....330 k for 100k airline miles and 7 nights for cat.1-4
https://lacek.hs.llnwd.net/e1/marrio...ges_Chart2.pdf
https://lacek.hs.llnwd.net/e1/marrio...ges_Chart2.pdf
#3535
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: The World!!!
Programs: Some of them not all ...
Posts: 1,532
Only thing is that today that I called, the person who answer said he does not know how to upgrade a TP, and that the people who know leave at 11:00PM CT and get there at 9AM CT, so will have to call them tomorrow and wait for at least 40 minutes until I can speak to someone
Last edited by carlitos; Jun 28, 2018 at 11:58 pm
#3536
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 736
New post from SPG Lurker on the conversion subject. No additional concrete info but some additional speculation. I think it's pretty clear at this point that nobody is getting refunded straight points.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29917515-post1810.html
How will existing Chase category-5 certificates be handled after the realignment of categories?
Most Chase certificates will convert to the equivalent "Up To" Points amount as they are today in Marriott Rewards. As an example, a Chase Category 1-5 certificate will convert to up to 25,000 points
Then, you can probably assume that the answer is similar to the one for travel certificates. "We are currently reviewing how to handle existing <snip> awards already in members' accounts and will have a definitive answer in the coming weeks. Members should make every effort to book and attach these certificates prior to our programs becoming one to to maximize their usage."
Most Chase certificates will convert to the equivalent "Up To" Points amount as they are today in Marriott Rewards. As an example, a Chase Category 1-5 certificate will convert to up to 25,000 points
Then, you can probably assume that the answer is similar to the one for travel certificates. "We are currently reviewing how to handle existing <snip> awards already in members' accounts and will have a definitive answer in the coming weeks. Members should make every effort to book and attach these certificates prior to our programs becoming one to to maximize their usage."
#3537
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: UK
Programs: BAEC Silver, VS Red, HH Gold, IHG Gold, Marriott Gold, SPG Basic, Alitalia Status Match
Posts: 1,173
Is "maximise" the key word there? This implies to me that they would generally be worth less post-merger
#3538
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Finland
Programs: Marriott Gold, IHG Plat AMB, HH Diamond, Delta Silver, Finnair Plat
Posts: 48
#3539
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,324
I am not sure what your strategy is? If you have a property in mind under the current chart then order that category. If you want to use it with the new chart there won't be any advantage to order the current certs and convert them later to the new chart. For the room component of the TP the only advantage in ordering now under the old chart is if the property you want is going up in points cost.
#3540
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Hold it down for The Bay, reppin' Oakland
Programs: Lowly UA silver, Marriott Ambassador/Tit4Lyf, IHG Plat
Posts: 1,763
and the confirmation that travel packages will be devaluated....330 k for 100k airline miles and 7 nights for cat.1-4
https://lacek.hs.llnwd.net/e1/marrio...ges_Chart2.pdf
https://lacek.hs.llnwd.net/e1/marrio...ges_Chart2.pdf
Time to redeem for a couple of Travel Packages before the new rate kicks in!