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Mr. Vker Jun 17, 2011 5:41 pm


Originally Posted by SF12345 (Post 16580615)
I take EVERYTHING I just said about USAirways customer support back! I just called back to check on one of the flight times and was told that the reservation that I have on hold.... that I have a confirmation # for.... that I can look up on THEIR system.... is not a valid reservation!!! I was now told that if they tried to book it, they would not be able to because it is invalid..... Now I'm pissed off!

I asked the lady what would have happened if I had booked it with the last person and her response was AND I QUOTE "well did you?" ... She wasn't budging so I told her I wanted to keep my invalid reservation on hold and I would call back later!

So to ask those FT'ers out there with experience....on a star alliance award flight are you allowed a stop-over of over 24 hours within the same region?!? The first CSR said she would have to check, came back and said she could do it and we put together this itinerary.... the 2nd time I called just to double check a time, told me you couldn't and that the reservation that I have a confirmation on hold for, is invalid....

Can anyone clarify?

The layover part was the part I was least familiar. Not sure about the rules on those. Could they route you from your stopover point to Thailand and back home? It would cost 2 one way tix to sfo. Could be a possible work around.

SF12345 Jun 17, 2011 5:46 pm


Originally Posted by Mr. Vker (Post 16580650)
The layover part was the part I was least familiar. Not sure about the rules on those. Could they route you from your stopover point to Thailand and back home? It would cost 2 one way tix to sfo. Could be a possible work around.

On hold with a 3rd CSR now with no mention YET of it being invalid... I'm on hold while she checks something out... The funny part is I can pull up the "held" reservation right now and everything looks copacetic to me.

Worst case scenario, we'll do the 2, 1 ways to the stopover point as you suggested if possible! If I had to, I could use Southwest Awards that I have sitting to get to my destination but I can't book that far out... I'll let you know... Thanks! :)

SF12345 Jun 17, 2011 6:11 pm


Originally Posted by SF12345 (Post 16580673)
On hold with a 3rd CSR now with no mention YET of it being invalid... I'm on hold while she checks something out... The funny part is I can pull up the "held" reservation right now and everything looks copacetic to me.

Worst case scenario, we'll do the 2, 1 ways to the stopover point as you suggested if possible! If I had to, I could use Southwest Awards that I have sitting to get to my destination but I can't book that far out... I'll let you know... Thanks! :)

I have clarification that people may be interesting in..... After the 3rd call my trip is valid!!!!!! With notes saying it's valid!!! With initialed notes saying it's valid!!

The reason being... SFO and LAX are considered gateway cities for international travel. Normally you are not allowed to "stopover" for more than 24hrs within any one region, however, in the case of SFO and LAX that is NOT the case!!!

I spoke with 2 supervisors (1 being a rate supervisor to confirm the amount of points) and both confirmed it with notes and initials... I even had them read back the exact note, on the exact line... each of them separately!

Just thought this may be important to others out there about SFO and LAX being gateway cities.... I hope all is legitimate!

Thanks! :D

star_world Jun 17, 2011 6:17 pm

What routing / airlines have you ended up on?

SF12345 Jun 17, 2011 6:26 pm


Originally Posted by star_world (Post 16580803)
What routing / airlines have you ended up on?

Depart
---------------------------------------
USAirways JFK > PHX > SFO

4 night stop over

Asiana Airlines SFO > ICN > HKT

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Return
----------------------------------------
Thai Airlines HKT > BKK > FRA

Lufthansa FRA > JFK

----------------------------------------


That's a lot of travel when I type it out.... At least it's all Business and First Class

PWMFlyer19 Jun 17, 2011 6:55 pm


Originally Posted by SF12345 (Post 16580842)
Depart
---------------------------------------
USAirways JFK > PHX > SFO
4 night stop over
Asiana Airlines SFO > ICN > HKT
----------------------------------------
Return
----------------------------------------
Thai Airlines HKT > BKK > FRA
Lufthansa FRA > JFK
----------------------------------------
That's a lot of travel when I type it out.... At least it's all Business and First Class

This is why people love buying US miles when they have the promos...and for crediting to the program. Glad it worked out. Nice itinerary and mix of airlines. Sometimes you get somebody who pulls the around the world card on something like this if you look at you itin.

But has you learned, it is all about agent roulette with US.

Cheers.

SF12345 Jun 17, 2011 6:59 pm

In case anyone was still having this question... Since this thread was old, I called the PP number and the CSR literally said "that's the strangest question I've ever been asked.... I don't know". He was very nice and proceeded to call Marriott Rewards (which I realized I should have done in the first place). He put me on hold, came back and said "you've got us stumped... give us a few minutes and I'll get right back to you". Two minutes later he came back and said no problem.

So while it still sounds a bit dicey, it also sounds like it can, and should, always been done pretty easily... for now

SF12345 Jun 17, 2011 7:01 pm


Originally Posted by PWMFlyer19 (Post 16580952)
This is why people love buying US miles when they have the promos...and for crediting to the program. Glad it worked out. Nice itinerary and mix of airlines. Sometimes you get somebody who pulls the around the world card on something like this if you look at you itin.

But has you learned, it is all about agent roulette with US.

Cheers.

You nailed it!!! The only problem... I missed the US miles promo by 17 days :mad:

Lesson learned!

By the way, what do you mean by "pulls the around the world card"?

Mr. Vker Jun 17, 2011 7:11 pm


Originally Posted by SF12345 (Post 16580842)
Depart
---------------------------------------
USAirways JFK > PHX > SFO

4 night stop over

Asiana Airlines SFO > ICN > HKT

----------------------------------------
Return
----------------------------------------
Thai Airlines HKT > BKK > FRA

Lufthansa FRA > JFK

----------------------------------------


That's a lot of travel when I type it out.... At least it's all Business and First Class

Nice ^

And a nice mix of airlines/expereriences. Enjoy the lounges on your trip around the world.

Mr. Vker Jun 17, 2011 7:13 pm


Originally Posted by SF12345 (Post 16580974)
You nailed it!!! The only problem... I missed the US miles promo by 17 days :mad:

Lesson learned!

By the way, what do you mean by "pulls the around the world card"?

You are flying around the world!

PWMFlyer19 Jun 17, 2011 7:18 pm


Originally Posted by SF12345 (Post 16580974)
By the way, what do you mean by "pulls the around the world card"?

You fly west young man and you keep going west, all away around the pacific and then the atlantic....

It's legal in this case because you never backtrack on your itin, but based on your experience people make up rules.

Glad to be of help. Cheers.

SF12345 Jun 17, 2011 7:19 pm


Originally Posted by Mr. Vker (Post 16581018)
You are flying around the world!

Oh Wow!! I have zero experience flying this much lol....

I should just be happy, but that little nag inside my brain is pissed I missed the promo... Would be First Class the entire way with the bonus miles instead of Business/First mixed.

But I'm very happy! Thank you for all of the help everyone!

Mr. Vker Jun 17, 2011 8:14 pm


Originally Posted by SF12345 (Post 16580968)
In case anyone was still having this question... Since this thread was old, I called the PP number and the CSR literally said "that's the strangest question I've ever been asked.... I don't know". He was very nice and proceeded to call Marriott Rewards (which I realized I should have done in the first place). He put me on hold, came back and said "you've got us stumped... give us a few minutes and I'll get right back to you". Two minutes later he came back and said no problem.

So while it still sounds a bit dicey, it also sounds like it can, and should, always been done pretty easily... for now

We did this. When I told you about my two Cat 7 certs I used in Italy, one was a Cat 6. They let me upgrade for the point difference. I totally forgot we did it. Very easy. I think Marriott works to meet any need it can for you in the program.

NJUPINTHEAIR Jun 18, 2011 9:30 am


Originally Posted by Mr. Vker (Post 16581296)
We did this. When I told you about my two Cat 7 certs I used in Italy, one was a Cat 6. They let me upgrade for the point difference. I totally forgot we did it. Very easy. I think Marriott works to meet any need it can for you in the program.

Mr. Vker, thanks for resurrecting and adding to the old thread.

Here's my question -- one can upgrade the cert for the points difference, but now is one gets a Cat 7 or Cat 8 cert, and if one holds the Marriott Visa, one is to get a points refund -- has anyone tried this and accomplished the refund?

Marriott Concierge??

Mr. Vker Jun 18, 2011 10:33 am


Originally Posted by NJUPINTHEAIR (Post 16583469)
Mr. Vker, thanks for resurrecting and adding to the old thread.

Here's my question -- one can upgrade the cert for the points difference, but now is one gets a Cat 7 or Cat 8 cert, and if one holds the Marriott Visa, one is to get a points refund -- has anyone tried this and accomplished the refund?

Marriott Concierge??

Not quite sure what you are asking. Do you want to go from a Cat 8 to a Cat 7? Or do you want to refund the 7 night stay portion of the travel package?


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