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Originally Posted by Happy
(Post 30087362)
There is NEW DP, see the clarification by the poster - the cert is ATTACHED to the reservation. There is NO ADVANCE of Points.
Just add to your edit. I was able to attach my TP to a property which costs more than my TP. But the agent was able to attach the TP and told me that I would need to have the points ready before the cancellation deadline. Say, the TP is worth 50,000 MR/night and I attached it to a property costing 60,000 MR/night. |
Originally Posted by cruisr
(Post 30087080)
Starwood Lurkers have been very upfront. From the beginning they had advised attaching a certificate to a hotel before August 18 for maximum value. People didn’t want to follow that advise (of course if the dates are not open yet, if you want a former SPG property etc would be exceptions) and even though they know the hotel/dates they are not attaching. Agree, its been a mess but I think Starwood Lurkers have been great, given the circumstances. In any event some TP holders will be upset, some will not. For example, what would happen if the current Cat 6 properties will be the new Cat 4, how would I get the 30K extra payment back? No answer. There is no correspondent 30K/night either, now the pts jump from 25K to 35K to 50K versus the sequential 30K incremental increase. I have to say that by not letting members to up or down grade their certs once the information is finally available for members to make more intelligent decision versus now we are deliberately being kept in the dark, Marriott is hoping to get the biggest breakage from the hotel stay portion of the Travel Package. The real value in the Travel Package, at least in my situation, is the very cheap 7 nights stay. Marriott is playing the dirty game to generate as much breakage as possible. |
Originally Posted by RedSun
(Post 30087367)
You can say it is new. But I've seen this a couple of times before.... See my screenshot.
The poster's cert is NOT the correct cert to use for the property. His is a current Marriott Cat 8. The property is a RC tiers. That is the fundamental difference that you have missed. Since the system allows it to attach - it implies how the Cat 8 will be converted. That is why it is a new DP or a leaked DP. |
Originally Posted by RedSun
(Post 30087367)
You can say it is new. But I've seen this a couple of times before.... See my screenshot.
The poster has a cert that does NOT cover the booking and yet it too is attached. |
Originally Posted by Happy
(Post 30087407)
The poster's cert is NOT the correct cert to use for the property. His is a current Marriott Cat 8. The property is a RC tiers.
Since the system allows it to attach - it implies how the Cat 8 will be converted. That is why it is a new DP or a leaked DP. For my reservation, I had to talk to 3 agents. Only one of them was able to attach the TP. The stay costs more than my TP level. Here is the extended reservation with pending points required. Look the same to me. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...53b2d763a3.png |
Originally Posted by RedSun
(Post 30087420)
I do not think there is any leaked info. It is just the CSR who is very liberal. Or she does not know what she is doing.
For my reservation, I had to talk to 3 agents. Only one of them was able to attach the TP. The stay costs more than my TP level. Here is the extended reservation with pending points required. Look the same to me. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...53b2d763a3.png You were describing a Ritz free night, not a TP. |
Originally Posted by OssianBlue
(Post 30087455)
You were describing a Ritz free night, not a TP.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...3cff7934d2.png |
Originally Posted by RedSun
(Post 30087493)
This is the 7-night TP attached to a reservation early 2019. When I get enough points, I can just click the button to order certificates to complete the reservation. Or I can cancel it and re-attach or whatever it happens.
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As long as a certificate is attached to a reservation, doesn't that mean the reservation is confirmed with no additional points required, even if the category of the certificate is lower than the category of the property?
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Originally Posted by agjil
(Post 30087721)
As long as a certificate is attached to a reservation, doesn't that mean the reservation is confirmed with no additional points required, even if the category of the certificate is lower than the category of the property?
This is the discussions just above. I do not think this is standard, but case by case. |
I just spoke to AU call centre to try to attach a cert. They said their systems will be back online in 5hrs time (6pm AEST).
Take this with a grain of salt: - I asked if there was any new info about how my floating Cat 6 Travel Package cert would map over, the CSR said latest info is it will be refunded as points, but couldn't say how many. They didn't hesitate in saying it and sounded confident in their answer....but who knows. |
Originally Posted by icebox425
(Post 30087807)
I just spoke to AU call centre to try to attach a cert. They said their systems will be back online in 5hrs time (6pm AEST).
Take this with a grain of salt: - I asked if there was any new info about how my floating Cat 6 Travel Package cert would map over, the CSR said latest info is it will be refunded as points, but couldn't say how many. They didn't hesitate in saying it and sounded confident in their answer....but who knows. |
Originally Posted by RedSun
(Post 30087788)
No. With some cases, the agents allow you to attach TP to higher level booking. Then you need to forward the points or additional certificate before the cancellation deadline.
This is the discussions just above. I do not think this is standard, but case by case. |
I've got a 1-5 I want to use on a 6 so I am probably going to try this tomorrow.
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My take for the entire TP thing is that, the best value for the TPs are the Cat-8 and Cat-9. They are the best resorts where we should spend the consecutive 7 nights. It is harder to find the mid-tier properties to spend the 7 nights at the same place. There are some nice properties in foreign countries, but I do not see myself spending 7 nights in the same city.
So my wish is to get the face value of the TP back. Say, get 30,000/night for Cat-6. Then I can use the points to upgrade my Chase free nights etc. I know I could be dreaming.... |
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