Jul 30, 2016, 4:21 pm
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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Marriott Travel Packages
Aug 10, 2018, 12:31 pm
#4876
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Watchlisted by the prejudiced, en route to purgatory
Programs: Just Say No to Fleecing and Blacklisting
Posts: 102,095
I’m betting that a lot of the unused 7 night certs are going to be hard to use as desired and that the secondary market for these certs is going to provide some with a diamond in the rough and others with a lump of coal.
Aug 10, 2018, 12:31 pm
#4877
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: DFW
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium, HH Gold, AA Lifetime Gold, United Silver, BA Gold
Posts: 864
They WILL check after the fact. Marriott apparently is doing POST redemption AUDIT on 5 nights packages redeemed to verify eligibility. Whether they only check it randomly or on every one such redemption is anybody's guess. But They DO check and lock accounts once audit shows not eligible, pending further investigation.
If you are not eligible, your account will be audited even after you have been able to book one.
Just 3 days ago on a non-English site I read a fresh DP of account is locked under audit due to the account owner booked a 5 days package though not eligible to do so.
换小礼包帐户被audit
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Many pages before in this thread someone also reported his account being audited and one of the 5 night cert was cancelled, additional points taken from his account to switch it to a 7 nights cert. Poster went all the way to Exec Office only to be told the Truth - you are not eligible for 5 nights package hence that is what we do. Seems Marriott is actually quite lenient without impose more penalty.
There are some data points posted in Reddit several weeks ago about their 5 night certs were revoked and accounts audited.
Proceed at your own risk. Just remember even if you succeeded to redeem the 5 nights package, the coast is not clear. Pray you will be lucky and your account not being audited later on.
If you are not eligible, your account will be audited even after you have been able to book one.
Just 3 days ago on a non-English site I read a fresh DP of account is locked under audit due to the account owner booked a 5 days package though not eligible to do so.
换小礼包帐户被audit
»»Ð¡Àñ°üÕÊ»§±»audit - δÃû¿Õ¼ä(mitbbs.com)
Many pages before in this thread someone also reported his account being audited and one of the 5 night cert was cancelled, additional points taken from his account to switch it to a 7 nights cert. Poster went all the way to Exec Office only to be told the Truth - you are not eligible for 5 nights package hence that is what we do. Seems Marriott is actually quite lenient without impose more penalty.
There are some data points posted in Reddit several weeks ago about their 5 night certs were revoked and accounts audited.
Proceed at your own risk. Just remember even if you succeeded to redeem the 5 nights package, the coast is not clear. Pray you will be lucky and your account not being audited later on.
Once the Air Miles get posted, there is no way for Marriott to get them back and so how would Marriott convert that to a 7 night certificate.
Now if the member was lying, then that's on the member, but if a member asked the agent if he can book a 5 night package and the Agent does it, then that's on the Agent and there should be no penalty to the member.
Aug 10, 2018, 12:37 pm
#4878
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Kan@da
Programs: Anything with sweet spots
Posts: 1,790
I was finally able to pry/snatch one out of Marriott's stubborn hands thanks to an unsuspecting agent about a week ago (not an MVC member/owner). I felt like a thief when the agent started processing it on the phone 
. That is following many failed attempts in the past.
. That is following many failed attempts in the past.
Aug 10, 2018, 12:56 pm
#4879
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Programs: Marriott Titanium Elite (Lifetime Gold), United 1K
Posts: 128
Hard to keep track of everything on here... so a couple of quick questions:
- You can still call and book a Category 1-5 and 120,000 mile package? It looks like this is a yes? As a plat who should I call for this?
- Is there any risk of booking two of these and NOT applying to a reservation yet? Conversely, I'm still not clear on the upside?
Aug 10, 2018, 1:39 pm
#4880
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 600
Update based on OMAAT
When our loyalty programs unify on August 18, our new Travel Package award chart here, will go into effect and members will be able to book for packages at all 6,700 of our hotels.
However, if you currently have a Travel Package Certificate that’s not yet attached to a hotel reservation, you have the following options:
https://onemileatatime.com/marriott-...ckages-update/
When our loyalty programs unify on August 18, our new Travel Package award chart here, will go into effect and members will be able to book for packages at all 6,700 of our hotels.
However, if you currently have a Travel Package Certificate that’s not yet attached to a hotel reservation, you have the following options:
- If you know when you want to travel, make a new reservation or attach your certificate to an existing one prior to August 18, 2018.
- If you are still trying to plan that perfect trip, you can hold onto the certificate and will be able to add it to a reservation starting September 18, 2018.
https://onemileatatime.com/marriott-...ckages-update/
Aug 10, 2018, 1:51 pm
#4881
Company Representative, Marriott Rewards
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 25
How to Use Your Current Travel Package Certificate Prior to 8/18
On 8/18, our new Travel Package offering will launch along with our new loyalty program. After our loyalty programs become one, our new Travel Package award chart will go into effect and members will be able to book for packages at all 6,700 of our hotels.
If you currently have a Travel Package Certificate that’s not yet attached to a hotel reservation, you have the following options:
- If you know when you want to travel, make a new reservation or attach your certificate to an existing one prior to August 18, 2018.
- If you are still trying to plan that perfect trip, you can hold onto the certificate and will be able to add it to a reservation starting September 18, 2018.
Please note that you will not be able to modify your certificate for an existing reservation or attach it to a new one between August 18 and September 18, 2018. Please plan accordingly.
Do not hesitate to reach out with questions. We look forward to making this transition as smooth as possible.
Best regards,
Marriott Rewards Insider
If you currently have a Travel Package Certificate that’s not yet attached to a hotel reservation, you have the following options:
- If you know when you want to travel, make a new reservation or attach your certificate to an existing one prior to August 18, 2018.
- If you are still trying to plan that perfect trip, you can hold onto the certificate and will be able to add it to a reservation starting September 18, 2018.
Please note that you will not be able to modify your certificate for an existing reservation or attach it to a new one between August 18 and September 18, 2018. Please plan accordingly.
Do not hesitate to reach out with questions. We look forward to making this transition as smooth as possible.
Best regards,
Marriott Rewards Insider
Aug 10, 2018, 1:54 pm
#4882
Join Date: Jan 2008
Programs: AA Exec Platinum; Marriott Titanium Elite; Hertz President's Circle
Posts: 57
Update based on OMAAT
When our loyalty programs unify on August 18, our new Travel Package award chart here, will go into effect and members will be able to book for packages at all 6,700 of our hotels.
However, if you currently have a Travel Package Certificate that’s not yet attached to a hotel reservation, you have the following options:
https://onemileatatime.com/marriott-...ckages-update/
When our loyalty programs unify on August 18, our new Travel Package award chart here, will go into effect and members will be able to book for packages at all 6,700 of our hotels.
However, if you currently have a Travel Package Certificate that’s not yet attached to a hotel reservation, you have the following options:
- If you know when you want to travel, make a new reservation or attach your certificate to an existing one prior to August 18, 2018.
- If you are still trying to plan that perfect trip, you can hold onto the certificate and will be able to add it to a reservation starting September 18, 2018.
https://onemileatatime.com/marriott-...ckages-update/
Aug 10, 2018, 1:57 pm
#4883
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Kan@da
Programs: Anything with sweet spots
Posts: 1,790
So you won't be able to ATTACH LEGACY CERTIFICATES between Aug. 18 and Sept. 18 ?
Aug 10, 2018, 1:57 pm
#4884
Moderator, Marriott Bonvoy & FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: McKinney, TX, USA
Programs: United Silver; AA Plat/2MM; Marriott LT Titanium; Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,727
Since this is a actually a duplicate thread to one in the SPG forum, discussion can go on there or in the Marriott Travel Package thread in the Marriott forum.
Aug 10, 2018, 2:02 pm
#4885
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: USA
Programs: AS MVP; UA Gold; DL Gold; Marriott Titanium
Posts: 156
Update based on OMAAT
When our loyalty programs unify on August 18, our new Travel Package award chart here, will go into effect and members will be able to book for packages at all 6,700 of our hotels.
However, if you currently have a Travel Package Certificate that’s not yet attached to a hotel reservation, you have the following options:
https://onemileatatime.com/marriott-...ckages-update/
When our loyalty programs unify on August 18, our new Travel Package award chart here, will go into effect and members will be able to book for packages at all 6,700 of our hotels.
However, if you currently have a Travel Package Certificate that’s not yet attached to a hotel reservation, you have the following options:
- If you know when you want to travel, make a new reservation or attach your certificate to an existing one prior to August 18, 2018.
- If you are still trying to plan that perfect trip, you can hold onto the certificate and will be able to add it to a reservation starting September 18, 2018.
https://onemileatatime.com/marriott-...ckages-update/
Aug 10, 2018, 2:02 pm
#4886
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,166
So Marriott really doesn't want to tell us how they are going to handle floating certs from the old travel packages.
I guess if Marriott was going to give out points for floating certs then they would not need to freeze the certs for a month nor allow people to use them after a month.
Now I think it's fairly obvious that the old certs are NOT going to be returned in the form of points, and somehow old certs will be converted to new ones.
I guess if Marriott was going to give out points for floating certs then they would not need to freeze the certs for a month nor allow people to use them after a month.
Now I think it's fairly obvious that the old certs are NOT going to be returned in the form of points, and somehow old certs will be converted to new ones.
Aug 10, 2018, 2:06 pm
#4887
Join Date: Jan 2008
Programs: AA Exec Platinum; Marriott Titanium Elite; Hertz President's Circle
Posts: 57
All of these travel bloggers are falling over themselves to be the source of "breaking news!" or some irrelevant nugget of half-truth that will allow them to brag about how they were FIRST. It has gotten so many people here on FT and elsewhere worked up trying to imagine scenarios of TP-riches with once in a lifetime stays in a $1500/night over the water bungalows for a Cat 8 cert. The reality is most of these people are finding things out not much more quickly than the general public in most cases...
Aug 10, 2018, 2:09 pm
#4888
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Kan@da
Programs: Anything with sweet spots
Posts: 1,790
It sounds more likely Marriott will convert the certs at parity, that is old cat X will become new cat X (up to 8). They gave us advance notice of the category changes. Nobody will be justified to complain if certificates are converted at parity.
If they were going to convert at a scale other than parity, then they would have had to give us advance notice of the conversion as that would entail some devaluations in terms of redemptions
If they were going to convert at a scale other than parity, then they would have had to give us advance notice of the conversion as that would entail some devaluations in terms of redemptions
Aug 10, 2018, 2:17 pm
#4889
Join Date: Dec 2004
Programs: UA-1K, MM, Hilton-Diamond, Marriott-Titanium
Posts: 4,432
OMG, no resolution and now more theories and back and forth until 9/18. LOL, just when I thought I was seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.
Aug 10, 2018, 2:19 pm
#4890
Join Date: May 2012
Programs: Marriott Titanium; UA 1K; Hertz Presidents Club
Posts: 441
My understanding is that you will not be able to attach legacy certificates ONLY if they are part of a travel package. Other certificates, like the ones from the credit card, should be attachable during that time frame based on the fact we have not heard otherwise.