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Originally Posted by swag
(Post 29883205)
For those hoping for the chance at a bargain MR to mile conversion, do you take that risk? I'm undecided but tempted.
Originally Posted by craigthemif
(Post 29878309)
but worst case scenario I'd have converted 75K SPG into 120K Alaska or 132K United and I can easily live with that as well.
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Originally Posted by Happy
(Post 29883298)
They dont care if you are mad. The way that they choose to communicate this issue and remain so vague despite REPEATED questions from the members, should give you people enough hint to think about - all of the same certs / 150K pts conversion have slim to none chance to happen.
If the plan is the lower end value, what possible reason or advantage would they have to keep that conversion point rate a secret? |
Originally Posted by swag
(Post 29883333)
If the plan is the low end value (45K), then it would make sense for them to have announced that fact sooner rather than later. This would warn folks from making additional redemptions without attaching the cert to a reservation, and also give notice to those who already have floater certificates to attach them to a reservation before the cutover. In both cases, this would result in a lower number of disgruntled customers.
If the plan is the lower end value, what possible reason or advantage would they have to keep that conversion point rate a secret? |
If they wanted to eliminate any possibility of arbitrage, they'd just convert the floater certs directly to the equivalent points-per-night in the new system. For the categories that don't have an exact 1:1, convert them down a half-category and refund a small amount of points. Members can always call back later to upgrade a cert if they like.
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Originally Posted by pinniped
(Post 29883440)
If they wanted to eliminate any possibility of arbitrage, they'd just convert the floater certs directly to the equivalent points-per-night in the new system. For the categories that don't have an exact 1:1, convert them down a half-category and refund a small amount of points. Members can always call back later to upgrade a cert if they like.
How would that eliminate any arbitrage? Even the "worst-case" scenario descibed by [MENTION=432843]craigthemif[/MENTION] constitutes a decent enough arbitrage. |
Originally Posted by RafKa
(Post 29883734)
Do you mean converting them to 180K MR points (6 nights @ 30k pts for new Cat 4)? That would mean getting as much as 480k value out of a 270k Cat 1-5 + 120k miles package.
How would that eliminate any arbitrage? Even the "worst-case" scenario descibed by [MENTION=432843]craigthemif[/MENTION] constitutes a decent enough arbitrage. I'm suggesting that if you have a Cat 5 floater on Aug 1, it becomes a new Cat 4 certificate. Zero change to what you get. A 25,000 point per night hotel. If you have a current Cat 6 floater, then it also becomes a new Cat 4 and you get 30,000 points back in your account. Since the new program does not have a 30,000 point level, you effectively get bumped down to half a rung and you get the difference back in your account. Still no arbitrage. This is clearly a one-time thing, on August 1, 2018. If you call an extend the certificate into the future peak/off-peak model, then you could be on the hook for more points to get your desired hotel. If they did this, there would be no real way to exploit it. Of course, it sounds like Marriott *isn't* going to do this - I'm not really sure what they're going to do - so perhaps a moot point. |
If anyone here is thinking of redeeming points for a Travel Package I recommend you not wait and do it asap.
I just called and something has sure changed at Marriott Rewards. Takes a long time on hold ..... then transferred between reservations and customer service and rewards program back and forth. Finally get to rewards program rep and they have to research to find the codes for the specific travel package you want. Takes a long time to find. Then computer goes down then program goes down so have to continually input your info again and again. If there is an announcement and it is good there is no way the system can handle it. Good luck, do it now. |
Originally Posted by Duke5150
(Post 29884296)
they have to research to find the codes for the specific travel package you want.
. Description: 7 Night Travel Package Category 1-5 Hotels Reward code: 830T Valid through: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 Total points redeemed: 270,000 Confirmed on: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 |
I had a cat 1-5 travel pkg and upgraded to a cat 7. The code for that in case anyone wants to upgrade is P910 PARTIAL PKG-CAT 7 - 105,000 Points. We are rolling the dice and leaving 3 floaters in our accounts. 2 cat 7 certs and 1 cat 1-5. We are happy with the United miles we got so whatever happens we are ok with it. I am hoping for the best, but expecting the worst.
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Originally Posted by Duke5150
(Post 29884296)
If anyone here is thinking of redeeming points for a Travel Package I recommend you not wait and do it asap.
I just called and something has sure changed at Marriott Rewards. Takes a long time on hold ..... then transferred between reservations and customer service and rewards program back and forth. Finally get to rewards program rep and they have to research to find the codes for the specific travel package you want. Takes a long time to find. Then computer goes down then program goes down so have to continually input your info again and again. If there is an announcement and it is good there is no way the system can handle it. Good luck, do it now. The Marriott system has crashed many times during the past 2 months, literally every other day if not every day. All reported in multiple threads. Though I agree that if one wants to redeem, do not wait till last week of July to do so. |
New post from Greg on the subject. Summary: he's in the same place as most of us here.
https://frequentmiler.boardingarea.c...before-august/ |
Like a summary of this thread :)
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Originally Posted by AtlLhr
(Post 29884602)
We are happy with the United miles we got so whatever happens we are ok with it. I am hoping for the best, but expecting the worst.
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I have attached a 7-night cat 5 certificate to a cat 5 reservation next year, though we plan on only staying five nights. I’m now wondering if it’s better to call and cancel the reservation- so I have a floater certificate which may be converted to points in August. I can book our five night stay using AirBnB at about $100/ night. |
Originally Posted by theOtherHolmes
(Post 29887359)
I have attached a 7-night cat 5 certificate to a cat 5 reservation next year, though we plan on only staying five nights. I’m now wondering if it’s better to call and cancel the reservation- so I have a floater certificate which may be converted to points in August. I can book our five night stay using AirBnB at about $100/ night. |
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