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boomdog Mar 15, 2010 7:02 pm


Originally Posted by rebadc (Post 13582627)
No,

It's bigguyinpasadena:D

Wouldn't he start by promoting himself from gold?

hungarianhc Mar 16, 2010 12:41 am

You know... this is just my opinion, but i think your complaint stems around the fact that Marriott, in general, doesn't treat their elites well, when it comes to upgrades. I RARELY get upgraded to a very nice room, and i'm a 5-year platinum. You should get a better room than me, but in the end, we both get average rooms and that corner window room stays vacant! :mad:

I love Marriott rewards, but SPG definitely beats them when it comes to upgrades...

USirritated Mar 16, 2010 3:53 am

Hungarian, uh, you missed my point entirely!

I get upgraded all the time! I am bah humbuging the people who are always complaining! I was not bah humbuging Marriott at all! I get upgraded all the time, including at the hotel where I am now, and including to suites about half the time that I stay in full service hotels, also including the hotel where I am now. So, please, if you are complaining, maybe you are just not doing something right!

WillTravel4Food Mar 16, 2010 7:23 am

I'm really trying to understand what all the fuss is about. Over the past two years I've become Uber Travel Man (in my mind at least, but evidently still a novice compared to some). And even at my current level 60-80 nights a year in hotels, I've come to the point of not really caring about the over-amenitized properties. All I really want is a clean, quiet, comfortable room and my breakfast. I collect points like I once collected baseball cards. Other than that, I really don't use/want the other stuff. No need for a bigger and better room when I travel solo and too tired in the evening to enjoy.

Can somebody explain the benefit of PP here. No more points, which is what I really would like. Maybe an upgraded room, which is something I don't really need. How self absorbed do I need to become to expect anything beyond a "Welcome back Mr. WillTravel4Food. Thank you for visiting us again."

judolphin Mar 16, 2010 7:25 am


Originally Posted by WillTravel4Food (Post 13585359)
I'm really trying to understand what all the fuss is about. Over the past two years I've become Uber Travel Man (in my mind at least, but evidently still a novice compared to some). And even at my current level 60-80 nights a year in hotels, I've come to the point of not really caring about the over-amenitized properties. All I really want is a clean, quiet, comfortable room and my breakfast. I collect points like I once collected baseball cards. Other than that, I really don't use/want the other stuff. No need for a bigger and better room when I travel solo and too tired in the evening to enjoy.

Can somebody explain the benefit of PP here. No more points, which is what I really would like. Maybe an upgraded room, which is something I don't really need. How self absorbed do I need to become to expect anything beyond a "Welcome back Mr. WillTravel4Food. Thank you for visiting us again."

I think we'd be friends IRL.

nollag Mar 16, 2010 9:21 am

Thanks all for your input.

I am really struggling to see what the benefit with PP is: a dedicated reservations line is of little interest to me. Personally, I would much rather an enhanced number of reward points, as that would be of some value for vacation planning.

As for the Edinburgh Marriott, now that I’ve made Platinum – I may just move to the Hilton. At least they have an open bar in the Exec lounge there, and the points system is more generous.

BrightlyBob Mar 16, 2010 10:01 am


Originally Posted by nollag (Post 13586047)
Thanks all for your input.

I am really struggling to see what the benefit with PP is: a dedicated reservations line is of little interest to me. Personally, I would much rather an enhanced number of reward points, as that would be of some value for vacation planning.

As for the Edinburgh Marriott, now that I’ve made Platinum – I may just move to the Hilton. At least they have an open bar in the Exec lounge there, and the points system is more generous.

I absoloutely agree with your sentiments concerning PP, it seems to me to be sales puff, and nothing else.

Whilst I cant comment on the Edinburgh Marriott versus the Hilton, I don't think chasing high point accumulations are important, its what a point is worth that matters.

Of course the value you gain for your point varies considerably but with Marriott it is childishly easy to gain $0.008 per point, I personally always redeem at 1.5cents per point plus. I am also a member of the IHG program, not because of its huge point collecting posibilities, but beause here in the UK the IHG group is absoloutely everywhere. If there isnt a Marriott nearby there is ALWAYS a HI. IHG points are a doddle to collect in huge numbers due to the enormous amount of cross promotions, BUT they're not worth that much, only about $0.003 per point, although I personally always redeem at $0.005. On pointsbreak its perfectly possible to redeem these easy-to-earn points at a fabulous 2cents plus per point!!

An HH point has never had the same value as a Marriott point, but with double dipping you did get more, either airline miles or extra points. Before their devaluation I reckoned HH provided about the same value as Marriott, namely their points were worth about 1/3 less, but you got 1/3 more of them per $ (if you double dipped points+points). Since HH has now devalued by 20% it is difficult to see the value in Hiltons scheme, but on the other hand there certainly is no point in my view pursuing more Marriott status, since PP really isnt worth it...

FWIW, if you only are bothered about earn and burn, then IHG comes out on top, the points may be worth compatively little but they accumulate at a startling rate... So far this year I've accumulated over 15,000 priority points having spent only 2 nights (£150) at Holiday Inns. At Marriott I'd be spending £600 to do the same...

But I still favour Marriotts as I prefer the hotels and the other bennies attached to plat status...

hungarianhc Mar 16, 2010 10:41 am


Originally Posted by USirritated (Post 13584722)
Hungarian, uh, you missed my point entirely!

I get upgraded all the time! I am bah humbuging the people who are always complaining! I was not bah humbuging Marriott at all! I get upgraded all the time, including at the hotel where I am now, and including to suites about half the time that I stay in full service hotels, also including the hotel where I am now. So, please, if you are complaining, maybe you are just not doing something right!

Whoops sorry for not being clear! I wasn't responding to you... I was responding to the OP!

SkiAdcock Mar 16, 2010 11:47 am


Originally Posted by USirritated (Post 13582355)
Bah, humbug! Some people are just too negative!

I am just a LOWLY Platinum member, not a PP! However, please read on dear traveling collegues.....

I just checked in to the Renaissance Tulsa Hotel & Convention Center about one hour ago. I have a reservation for ONE NIGHT. I MIGHT need to stay for one more night, but I am not sure yet, I will know in about three hours.

While driving over to Tulsa from Missouri, I called Plat rez to ask for the telephone number of the hotel so I could inquire about the possibility of another night's stay here. I did not want necessarily to confirm a second night, because for some reason, this hotel has a 24 hour advance cancellation policy, and I did not want to get pinched for one night's room and tax if I ended up not needing the extra night. Instead, the rez agent offered to call the hotel for me and arrange for what I wanted. I told him that I was also planning on asking for a suite upgrade, so that it would be ready upon my arrival too. He asked me to hold on, he would ask for that too. No more than 90 seconds later he came back on the line with confirmation that the front desk manager confirmed both that the room would be available for me for an additional day at the same rate if I wanted it, and that I would be upgraded to a King, corner, 2 room suite upon arrival.

When I arrived, the same front desk manager checked me in, recalled the telephone conversation with the rez agent, and cheerfully offered late checkout for tomorrow at 3 PM, if that would help me to avoid another night's stay, or anything else she could offer me to make my stay more convenient as a long standing Plat member.

So, again, I say BAH! HUMBUG! to those of you who do not think that there is enough recognition or upgrades or good service to Plat or PP members at Marriott. I think that the recognition and quality of service at Marriott is generally quite good! Personally, I do not care about how some people are treated at Starwood or Westin or Hyatt! Add all of those hotel companies together and they are not even 2/3 the size of Marriott! There is no comparison, sorry! If you think that those hotel chains are so great, then stay there, but please, do not burden the rest of us with your negativity!

With all due respect, you've posted many times that you contact the property in advance or frequently have the Plat line do it to request upgrades/suite stays. My guess is that because of the extra calls you make to your upgrade ratio is a bit higher than others. Good for you that you're willing to take time out of your day etc. BTW - I would expect someone at the hotel to remember a conversation they had merely an hour before, especially when it was the Plat line requesting the upgrade for you ;)

The fact remains that if someone is Plat Premier (or Plat for that matter) they shouldn't have to make multiple calls to obtain some bennies they might reasonably expect simply by being PP status.

Even the OP finally got some satisfaction by doing so, but again it took the OP going the extra step to get the hotel to go to the extra step.

The black card getting 20% off food (see post # 28) is now a documented PP bennie over other levels, so that is a differentiator. Perhaps Marriott marketing sending emails to PPs actually noting they're PPs vs just reg Plats would be one too - if they ever did it. ;)

And while you don't care to hear about how the other chains treat their elites, a # of folk who think that Marriott lags probably are interested in how green the other grass is. For some it might not be green enough to switch; for others it will. To each their own. But them listing what they do get w/ the others that they don't get w/ Marriott is valid.

I'm not leaving Marriott. They've been very good to me. But I'm not drinking any kool-aid either.

Cheers.

hungarianhc Mar 16, 2010 11:51 am


Originally Posted by SkiAdcock (Post 13586993)
The black card getting 20% is now a documented bennie over other levels, so that is a differentiator. Perhaps Marriott marketing sending emails to PPs actually noting they're PPs vs just reg Plats would be one too - if they ever did it. ;)

What are you referring to?

SkiAdcock Mar 16, 2010 11:53 am


Originally Posted by hungarianhc (Post 13587022)
What are you referring to?

This was in post # 28:

"That black card actually came with 2 "tangible" benefits

20% off all food
free golf club rentals"

Sorry, should have specified specifically what the 20% was - not room rate LOL...

WoodyWindy Mar 16, 2010 2:46 pm


Originally Posted by Marriott Concierge (Post 13205390)
The answer to the second question is a "yes", but with a caution. One of the factors considered for PP is the total number of nights, including roll over nights. But since all elite members are eligible to roll over nights, and since the requirements for PP are variable based upon the totals for Platinum members as a group, most likely the night totals in the top 3% will increase as a result of the roll over benefit. In other words, you might have more nights because of the roll over, but so will most of the other Platinum members.
Alexander

Alas, I'm probably going to take a big hit on that, as I'm going to blow right past the regular Platinum nights threshold this year, for the first time in a while, and all of those rollover folks are probably going to keep me out of it. :(

Oh well, that's life. :)

Nevertheless, I still want a solid free breakfast (especially at CY) to be added to the benefits at some point... ;)

megtravels Mar 16, 2010 6:36 pm

It would be nice if this PP actually got her new PP card....I did contact an array of people, so we shall see.....

megtravels Mar 16, 2010 8:45 pm

Did anyone's status change in the last week?
 
I renewed as PP....I had 102 nights, rolled 2 over. I got an email that told me how many I needed to renew, etc etc.

Last week...AFTER March 1 when things should have reset, I was PP. I even think I was PP over the weekend...

Today I am Plat....and I got, as mentioned above, just the Plat package...

What's going on??? I emailed all appropriate parties but I am just wondering if any other PPs noticed this??

thegoderic Mar 17, 2010 6:12 am


Originally Posted by nollag (Post 13577824)
I have recently made Platinum membership.

Hilton Honors, have a hidden invite only level, above their published top tier that offers higher levels of bonus points and enhanced priviliges.

Do Marriott have anything similar? I intend to do about 100 nights in Edinburgh over the next six months, so it would be something I would be interested in.

If it exists, how do I get onto it?

If I were spending 100 nights in Edinburgh, the Marriott wouldn't be my first choice.

It is in an isolated location towards the airport with nothing worthwhile within walking distance, is a fairly tired looking property with nothing at all special about it and is the sort of place that 100 nights in would send me mad.

Dalmahoy is better, especially in the summer months, but is out of town and would require a car to get to most places at a time when the centre of Edinburgh is gridlock hell with the roadworks for the new trams.

I see you're also Hilton Diamond. The Caledoinan is right in the centre with lots of stuff around it and as a Diamond, they've always looked after me very well.

Also if you're looking for somewhere to eat, Jenbel has a brilliant thread in the UK Travel forum with many Edinburgh restaurants reviewed.


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